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Oct 19, 2019 23:28:30   #
Darren01 Loc: Fallbrook California
 
Being I shoot outside - here's what I would try -
Aperture - 8 to 16
Shutter - 150 to 250
ASA would be film speed recommended 100, 200, 400, 800etc....( ISO is digital equal sorta)
Only get one of each though....

depending on the film ASA 400 was the cheapest most available
200 shutter
F8
And hold steady.!!! Real crappy in low light inside (without flash), but worked outside fairly well....
Did I pass the test...LOLOLOL

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Oct 19, 2019 23:34:35   #
tomcat
 
jradose wrote:
I will probably start a range war here, but, I think the phrase "I don't like my camera making decisions for me" is so overused. I contend, unless you are shooting creatively, the camera is, in fact, making decisions for you. The purists always say, I shoot manual mode because I want to be in control of my camera. So, you set shutter speed, you set the aperture, you set the iso, but then, you check the exposure meter. If the little slider line is not in the middle (for proper exposure), you then adjust one or more of the three (shutter speed, aperture, iso) To get WHAT THE CAMERA SAYS is proper exposure. So, as I said, unless you are shooting for creative effects, and ignore the exposure meter on your camera, that camera is making decisions for you. What say you?
I will probably start a range war here, but, I thi... (show quote)


These folks probably have a manual transmission in their car---otherwise, why would they want the engine and transmission making decisions for them on when to shift?.......then they can shift when they want to..... When I shoot soccer or baseball, my camera is in Manual (the "m" button) (shutter is constantly on 1/1,000 and f/stop at f/5.6. It is also set for auto ISO so that I don't miss my grandchildren's homers or soccer shots (instead of stupidly having to change the stupid ISO when a stupid cloud comes stupidly out). I would look like an incompetent boob if I'm changing ISO while the ball goes over the fence or into the net.....

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Oct 19, 2019 23:46:26   #
Darren01 Loc: Fallbrook California
 
tomcat wrote:
These folks probably have a manual transmission in their car---otherwise, why would they want the engine and transmission making decisions for them on when to shift?.......then they can shift when they want to..... When I shoot soccer or baseball, my camera is in Manual (the "m" button) (shutter is constantly on 1/1,000 and f/stop at f/5.6. It is also set for auto ISO so that I don't miss my grandchildren's homers or soccer shots (instead of stupidly having to change the stupid ISO when a stupid cloud comes stupidly out). I would look like an incompetent boob if I'm changing ISO while the ball goes over the fence or into the net.....
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Yep you have a little noise in the photo, but that is easily corrected. HEY getting any transmission into reverse at 60 to 80 takes work! Even in the 70's before reverse lock out..!! LOLOL

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Oct 19, 2019 23:48:44   #
Darren01 Loc: Fallbrook California
 
good night all ya all... it's been fun! KEEP SHOOTING..!!!

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Oct 19, 2019 23:57:55   #
Grahame Loc: Fiji
 
Darren01 wrote:
Being I shoot outside - here's what I would try -
Aperture - 8 to 16
Shutter - 150 to 250
ASA would be film speed recommended 100, 200, 400, 800etc....( ISO is digital equal sorta)
Only get one of each though....


Does your reference to "Being I shoot outside - here's what I would try" cater for such subjects/scenarios as;

a) under moonlight
b) under starlight
c) pre sunrise
d) isolation of a single person in a group
e) a bird diving into the sea
f) panning a cyclist to blur the background
g) a heron in flight
h) bails flying off of cricket stumps
i) slowing a waterfall
j) shooting star trails
k) e.t.c, e.t.c .....................

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Oct 19, 2019 23:59:17   #
Darren01 Loc: Fallbrook California
 
tomcat wrote:
These folks probably have a manual transmission in their car---otherwise, why would they want the engine and transmission making decisions for them on when to shift?.......then they can shift when they want to..... When I shoot soccer or baseball, my camera is in Manual (the "m" button) (shutter is constantly on 1/1,000 and f/stop at f/5.6. It is also set for auto ISO so that I don't miss my grandchildren's homers or soccer shots (instead of stupidly having to change the stupid ISO when a stupid cloud comes stupidly out). I would look like an incompetent boob if I'm changing ISO while the ball goes over the fence or into the net.....
These folks probably have a manual transmission in... (show quote)


Nothing wrong with a manual tranny! Except in the snow and rain on an uphill stop sign. If they cant learn the clutch to keep vehicle roll back to minimum then Grandpa didn't teach them proper..LOLOL

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Oct 20, 2019 00:02:55   #
Darren01 Loc: Fallbrook California
 
OK were getting off topic.. It's been fun. Wish all the best to all UHH members...

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Oct 20, 2019 00:08:42   #
Darren01 Loc: Fallbrook California
 
Grahame wrote:
Does your reference to "Being I shoot outside - here's what I would try" cater for such subjects/scenarios as;

a) under moonlight
b) under starlight
c) pre sunrise
d) isolation of a single person in a group
e) a bird diving into the sea
f) panning a cyclist to blur the background
g) a heron in flight
h) bails flying off of cricket stumps
i) slowing a waterfall
j) shooting star trails
k) e.t.c, e.t.c .....................


NO, I've only done 4 on your professional list. Learn the camera. I'm being baited into nonsense

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Oct 20, 2019 00:13:58   #
rochephoto
 
I would say the word "shoot" is overused. You don't "shoot" anything. You are looking through the viewfinder and initiating the machine to record an exposure. Shooting is for arrows, guns, canons etc.... otherwise we would hear about more school shootings surrounding photography classes.

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Oct 20, 2019 00:15:51   #
Darren01 Loc: Fallbrook California
 
bull drink water wrote:
yeah, but when you go along with the camera's suggestion 90% of the time, well there you go.


If you are getting 90% on (p) mode.... Stick with it. Would like to see some photos though.. As said before...Done with this

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Oct 20, 2019 00:21:29   #
Darren01 Loc: Fallbrook California
 
Grahame wrote:
Does your reference to "Being I shoot outside - here's what I would try" cater for such subjects/scenarios as;

a) under moonlight
b) under starlight
c) pre sunrise
d) isolation of a single person in a group
e) a bird diving into the sea
f) panning a cyclist to blur the background
g) a heron in flight
h) bails flying off of cricket stumps
i) slowing a waterfall
j) shooting star trails
k) e.t.c, e.t.c .....................


GUUUMP, GGUUUUMP ...YASSSIR are you stupid or something?(stupid is as stupid does sir))

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Oct 20, 2019 00:23:14   #
Grahame Loc: Fiji
 
Darren01 wrote:
NO, I've only done 4 on your professional list.


Now that's nonsense, why would anyone consider those scenarios "professional"?


Darren01 wrote:
Learn the camera. I'm being baited into nonsense


Not being baited at all, just a simple example demonstrating the total simplification and unrealistic point of your post.

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Oct 20, 2019 00:29:39   #
Darren01 Loc: Fallbrook California
 
rochephoto wrote:
I would say the word "shoot" is overused. You don't "shoot" anything. You are looking through the viewfinder and initiating the machine to record an exposure. Shooting is for arrows, guns, canons etc.... otherwise we would hear about more school shootings surrounding photography classes.


And close only counts in horseshoes, hand grenades, and F stops, ISO's and shutter speeds! To quote Goldmember " let the shoosting begin" I'm Dutch.. LOLOL

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Oct 20, 2019 00:44:27   #
Darren01 Loc: Fallbrook California
 
Ok, Ok... Had fun with it. Done with it. Everyone have a good night or morning depending on where you are currently located. In the words of my good friend GREG... "FOCKER OUT"

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Oct 20, 2019 02:55:52   #
Delderby Loc: Derby UK
 
MrMophoto wrote:
That is exactly my point. I tell my classes that nobody cares what your photos look like when you first take them, what everyone cares about is what those images look like when you show them to the world, highly processed of straight from the camera, it's the final version that counts.


So your students are not learning to take photographs. They are are learning how to right their mistakes. I hope you have taught them not to make big (irrecoverable) ones. It may be that they will care how their pics look on capture, even if you don't. If so, good for them. It will certainly make their lives much easier.

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