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Oct 19, 2019 21:12:51   #
srt101fan
 
The glamorization of shooting manual we often see on UHH is actually kind of funny. All of us old guys got our start with cameras that required manual settings. So that is the baseline from which we started.

So, modern cameras have added all kinds of fancy capabilities that give you more shooting options.

You can opt out of using these capabilities and stay in the comfort zone of your old, baseline shooting mode, but, please, don't preach to novices that shooting manual is somehow the holy grail of photographic learning. It's just the old way of doing things. And yes, for some shooting scenarios it still is the best.

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Oct 19, 2019 21:15:38   #
rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona
 
Lots of blown highlights.
--Bob
tonyantony wrote:
canon powershot sd0is99

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Oct 19, 2019 21:37:57   #
User ID
 
mwsilvers wrote:

And maybe it just gives up greater
flexibility for only a small amount
of additional effort.


Did you mean "gives us" ?

Seems like no one would make small OR large
large additional effort to give up something.

Perhaps the mighty power of a very tiny typo ?

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Oct 19, 2019 21:38:22   #
Nikon1201
 
I hope you got all the attention you were looking for.

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Oct 19, 2019 21:57:59   #
Darren01 Loc: Fallbrook California
 
jradose wrote:
I will probably start a range war here, but, I think the phrase "I don't like my camera making decisions for me" is so overused. I contend, unless you are shooting creatively, the camera is, in fact, making decisions for you. The purists always say, I shoot manual mode because I want to be in control of my camera. So, you set shutter speed, you set the aperture, you set the iso, but then, you check the exposure meter. If the little slider line is not in the middle (for proper exposure), you then adjust one or more of the three (shutter speed, aperture, iso) To get WHAT THE CAMERA SAYS is proper exposure. So, as I said, unless you are shooting for creative effects, and ignore the exposure meter on your camera, that camera is making decisions for you. What say you?
I will probably start a range war here, but, I thi... (show quote)




Exactly.. The camera is just a tool for the eyes! You can make it as dramatic as you want or so over cooked it looks fake-ish.. It's just a tool to control light! What gets captured is up to you!...Or me with mine.! There is no shame in using (P) mode when it gets the job done my friend.. We don't need anymore range wars!

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Oct 19, 2019 22:00:48   #
dat2ra Loc: Sacramento
 
I paid good money for the brains in the camera and will continue to use them as I see fit. If I need to over ride, then I will. But otherwise, I am impressed by what the camera knows.

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Oct 19, 2019 22:05:30   #
Darren01 Loc: Fallbrook California
 
didn't realize this is 8 pages deep...The camera is just an object that captures light, same as binocular and your rifle scope, What it shows in that light is different for everyone! Nuff Said.. Learn how to use the tool in any mode...

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Oct 19, 2019 22:40:58   #
mwsilvers Loc: Central New Jersey
 
User ID wrote:
Did you mean "gives us" ?

Seems like no one would make small OR large
large additional effort to give up something.

Perhaps the mighty power of a very tiny typo ?


Yes, thanks. It was a typo. I did mean gives us.

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Oct 19, 2019 22:43:41   #
Darren01 Loc: Fallbrook California
 
No worries! Use it as you see fit! I Paid good money for mine also, it does damn well on AUTO (P) setting as does yours! I just like to get the harder shots that are more complex, especially in shadows and such or back lit. Nice thing about digital? I took 294 photos today and didn't have to develop film. Out of those I have 7- maybe 8 keepers, but I'm shooting wildlife. It/They/that doesn't sit still. Another analogy - Buy a brand new car, lock it into 1st gear and get on the freeway at 80mph and see how far you get.. Mine only gets to 8000RPM before the computer shuts the car OFF!! Yeah I forgot to shift once! Not really but you get the idea. You hold in your hand more technology than Apollo 11 moon shot and it doesn't hurt to use it..!!

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Oct 19, 2019 22:47:59   #
bull drink water Loc: pontiac mi.
 
srt101fan wrote:
The camera NEVER makes decisions for you. The camera suggests, YOU decide.


yeah, but when you go along with the camera's suggestion 90% of the time, well there you go.

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Oct 19, 2019 22:58:40   #
bull drink water Loc: pontiac mi.
 
the fully manual camera of today.
1 only one apature.
2 only one shutter speed.
3 only one iso.
now get out there and show me what you can do.

my first camea was a kodak brownie bullseye, it had one shutter speed, two apatures, two film speeds and a flash. my only limit was action shots.
I even shot a wedding next to the pro I was go foring for.. he used a few on my shots.

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Oct 19, 2019 22:59:11   #
Darren01 Loc: Fallbrook California
 
it will only be right approx. 25% of your 90% ratio......well there YOU go. Learn the camera as best you can! When you get that one shot your family/friends/peers say HOLY SH-t how did you get that, you can esplain Lucy.. Done with this. It was fun... good luck BDW

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Oct 19, 2019 23:04:59   #
Darren01 Loc: Fallbrook California
 
bull drink water wrote:
the fully manual camera of today.
1 only one apature.
2 only one shutter speed.
3 only one iso.
now get out there and show me what you can do.

my first camea was a kodak brownie bullseye, it had one shutter speed, two apatures, two film speeds and a flash. my only limit was action shots.
I even shot a wedding next to the pro I was go foring for.. he used a few on my shots.



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Oct 19, 2019 23:09:06   #
Darren01 Loc: Fallbrook California
 
Twin reflex here I was spoiled.. Had to develop film at the high school lab. All black and white. Had to learn how to roll the film neg on the roller in pitch black, and add all the chemicals until the negatives were developed. THEN.. We could turn on the RED light

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Oct 19, 2019 23:11:26   #
Darren01 Loc: Fallbrook California
 
question stands -
One aperture -
One Shutter -
One ASA or ISO? (not clarified yet)

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