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Oct 16, 2019 23:43:16   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
Creativity is allowing yourself to make mistakes. Art is knowing which images to keep.

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Oct 17, 2019 07:05:40   #
riderxlx Loc: DFW area Texas
 
srt101fan wrote:
A photographic image should be judged first on emotional and intellectual impact. Arbitrary measures such as sharpness, exposure, noise, white balance, composition, extent of manipulation, etc. should be second tier considerations.


Should be ? Who says so ?

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Oct 17, 2019 07:10:28   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
riderxlx wrote:
Should be ? Who says so ?

Well, I agree.

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Oct 17, 2019 07:17:47   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
srt101fan wrote:
A photographic image should be judged first on emotional and intellectual impact. Arbitrary measures such as sharpness, exposure, noise, white balance, composition, extent of manipulation, etc. should be second tier considerations.


True. If the subject isn't interesting, it doesn't matter how sharp it is. I'm not going to throw away old pictures of my relatives because they aren't sharp.

"The Falling Soldier" is totally lacking in sharpness, but I can't imaging an editor rejecting it for that reason.

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Oct 17, 2019 07:32:02   #
Notorious T.O.D. Loc: Harrisburg, North Carolina
 
The best photographers own every brand...

CHG_CANON wrote:
Have you found the images that inspire you the most always come from some other brand?

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Oct 17, 2019 07:34:35   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
Notorious T.O.D. wrote:
The best photographers own every brand...


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Oct 17, 2019 08:22:30   #
jaymatt Loc: Alexandria, Indiana
 
Bill_de wrote:
I had to laugh when I read this. I started college the day after I got out of service. One of my first classes was English composition. I don't remember what I wrote about, but when I got the paper back the prof had crossed out, in red, where I wrote, "In my opinion".

He said it was obviously my opinion, otherwise I should have mentioned whose opinion I was discussing.

Go figure.

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Exactly--from an old, tired composition teacher.

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Oct 17, 2019 08:42:35   #
ggab Loc: ?
 
srt101fan wrote:
A photographic image should be judged first on emotional and intellectual impact. Arbitrary measures such as sharpness, exposure, noise, white balance, composition, extent of manipulation, etc. should be second tier considerations.


What if the viewer is analytical vs emotional?
They will see and appreciate the technical aspects of the image first. These aspects will then add to or detract from the emotional and/or intellectual impact of the image.

This is how I see images.

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Oct 17, 2019 08:46:35   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
ggab wrote:
What if the viewer is analytical vs emotional?
They will see and appreciate the technical aspects of the image first. These aspects will then add to or detract from the emotional and/or intellectual impact of the image.

This is how I see images.

Yup, everyone sees things differently and has different interpretations!

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Oct 17, 2019 09:02:10   #
dsmeltz Loc: Philadelphia
 
srt101fan wrote:
A photographic image should be judged first on emotional and intellectual impact. Arbitrary measures such as sharpness, exposure, noise, white balance, composition, extent of manipulation, etc. should be second tier considerations.


Critiquing is based on much more than arbitrary emotional and or intellectual impact. Though what you mean by those terms is not clear.
In any artistic field critiquing is based on a knowledge of the field, its history, methods and the current state of the art in question. Artists who are on the edge of that art and pushing its boundaries will be lauded or eviscerated depending on the state of knowledge of the judges. So while you may not understand "measures such as sharpness, exposure, noise, white balance, composition, extent of manipulation, etc" in a manner sufficient to use them appropriately in a critique, qualified judges must.

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Oct 17, 2019 09:09:21   #
billnikon Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont
 
srt101fan wrote:
A photographic image should be judged first on emotional and intellectual impact. Arbitrary measures such as sharpness, exposure, noise, white balance, composition, extent of manipulation, etc. should be second tier considerations.


Today Albert would be proud. However, exposure, use of light, composition, and many other factors can also effect the emotional response to an image.

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Oct 17, 2019 09:12:30   #
Toment Loc: FL, IL
 
srt101fan wrote:
A photographic image should be judged first on emotional and intellectual impact. Arbitrary measures such as sharpness, exposure, noise, white balance, composition, extent of manipulation, etc. should be second tier considerations.


IMO, That’s what art is, some thing that elicits an emotional response.
If you’re judging photos, then IQ may be a factor. But many beautiful photos, taken with cell phones,, not noted for great IQ, except at 72x72, have won awards for composition, interest, color, etc.

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Oct 17, 2019 09:28:16   #
srt101fan
 
ggab wrote:
What if the viewer is analytical vs emotional?
They will see and appreciate the technical aspects of the image first. These aspects will then add to or detract from the emotional and/or intellectual impact of the image.

This is how I see images.


Good point!

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Oct 17, 2019 10:10:24   #
srt101fan
 
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"A photographic image should be judged first on emotional and intellectual impact. Arbitrary measures such as sharpness, exposure, noise, white balance, composition, extent of manipulation, etc. should be second tier considerations."


Some folks are responding to my post assuming that I'm talking about judging photos in the context of a juried show or contest. I'm not. I used the word "judged" as in "formed an opinion or conclusion about".

I'm speaking to viewers who might look at an image and turn away because it isn't tack sharp, or it isn't color balanced to their standards, or it's been post-processed beyond their acceptable limits.

Artists can manipulate these things in whatever way they want to achieve their objectives. So I say, approach an image with an open heart and mind; slow down, temporarily forget the technical aspects and look for the soul of the image. If it isn't there for you, move on.....

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Oct 17, 2019 10:12:02   #
aellman Loc: Boston MA
 
robertjerl wrote:
Your personal preferences and opinions. You will find many here who think differently and will argue endlessly that they are right and you are wrong.

Some people don't understand the difference between "fact" and "opinion".



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