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Sep 12, 2019 12:36:48   #
rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona
 
Gator, I was where you are a few years back. Some trial and error, but with note-taking and analysis managed to work through most issues and now pretty much work situation free.

As for color shifting, etc., I didn't notice anything dreadful. I'll have some time this weekend to do some experiments and post the results. It'll be a good excuse to try out my new camera parts, as well.

With strobes, most of the time I simply set the camera to Auto. On some really important moments, I trigger the strobe with my light meter (Sekonic L758DR) and get exposure settings from that.

Keep in mind we were all where you are now. Careful note-taking, observation, and analysis provide the path to better proficiency.
--Bob


gator81 wrote:
Did you have to do anything special with using led's? do you use a light meter or something like that or just make the determination on how it looks at the time you take the photo?
I am sure your experience can make it easy but me would be a mass of trial and error (lol).
From what I understand the power or watts used for the leds can generate a color spectrum where the higher can go more into the blues and lower can be more for the yellows and reds. Having an adjustment to change the power would make me guess that it could give your more options to add color would be my guess. I would just be curious on how hard it is to find the sweet spot for the best lighting? Or by shooting in raw you could fix most in post?
wow it almost looks like I know something, hehe, doing a lot of reading lately :)
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Sep 12, 2019 12:58:43   #
gator81 Loc: Jeffersonville Indiana
 
rmalarz wrote:
Gator, I was where you are a few years back. Some trial and error, but with note-taking and analysis managed to work through most issues and now pretty much work situation free.

As for color shifting, etc., I didn't notice anything dreadful. I'll have some time this weekend to do some experiments and post the results. It'll be a good excuse to try out my new camera parts, as well.

With strobes, most of the time I simply set the camera to Auto. On some really important moments, I trigger the strobe with my light meter (Sekonic L758DR) and get exposure settings from that.

Keep in mind we were all where you are now. Careful note-taking, observation, and analysis provide the path to better proficiency.
--Bob
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thanks :)

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Sep 12, 2019 13:00:52   #
Keen
 
Continuous lighting is less expensive, and lets you see what lighting effect you will get. For portraits, and product images, they can be useful. For stopping action, a 'flash' /'speedlight' is the thing to have, but good ones can cost a bit. Get ones which have master / slave capabilities. The more lights, and light modifiers, you can have, the better. Some images look great with one light. Others do better with three, or four, or more, lights. Reflectors, diffusers, etc, are good to have on hand, too. Again, more can be better. Have some continuous lights, and some flash units.

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Sep 12, 2019 14:46:53   #
gator81 Loc: Jeffersonville Indiana
 
Keen wrote:
Continuous lighting is less expensive, and lets you see what lighting effect you will get. For portraits, and product images, they can be useful. For stopping action, a 'flash' /'speedlight' is the thing to have, but good ones can cost a bit. Get ones which have master / slave capabilities. The more lights, and light modifiers, you can have, the better. Some images look great with one light. Others do better with three, or four, or more, lights. Reflectors, diffusers, etc, are good to have on hand, too. Again, more can be better. Have some continuous lights, and some flash units.
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I have been reading more on that also, I may still get a kit and looking hard at the leds, I have a speedlight that i use on the camera shoe and as money and experience will allow I will be wanting to learn with more. Right now money is my crutch and I have to try and make the most of what I can and it is hard waiting after getting all this good info from everyone. More info for my "goal" book :)

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Sep 12, 2019 22:03:38   #
rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona
 
Gator,
Here's a SOOC image of a color chart. The illumination was solely provided by the LED light setup I referenced earlier. The lights were about 4 feet from the subject and angled about 45 degrees.This was shot in RAW, but no manipulation, other than resizing, was done. It visually looks very close to the chart.
--Bob
gator81 wrote:
Hello, been awhile for me, trying to recover from medical problems and now improving. I have tried to read some post on the subject and feel more confused then before. I am sorry if I am messing up by posting multi questions in one post.
This is therapy for me and I am trying to make the most of what money I can save and still learn and thank you all for the great site and assistance that has been so much help.

1. Looking at continuous lighting kits, the cheap ones that has like a couple soft box's and umbrellas and stand with 3 muslin 10ft backdrops blk/wht/grn. I have read they can be a good start for those with budget and I am not opening a studio but for friends and family. I have seen on amazon and some other places for around 100$ range.

2. I have a canon eos 70D kit, been looking for good method to take self photo's without trying to outrun the timer :/ I was using my phone but it is not doing so well now and while out there are times I still need the flash for fill light and some of the remotes I have seen mount where my flash mounts.

3. It is still far in the future but I am curious as the a good economic investment when trying to build remote flash gear. should I look more greater expansions? like it can control more remotes, just look for a few or many? again I am dreaming for the future lol and I want to have the correct dreams :)

Sorry I am not more detailed, I have had trouble sleeping and finally had a chance to ask. I will try to watch closely on any replies and again thank you
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Sep 12, 2019 22:27:28   #
gator81 Loc: Jeffersonville Indiana
 
rmalarz wrote:
Gator,
Here's a SOOC image of a color chart. The illumination was solely provided by the LED light setup I referenced earlier. The lights were about 4 feet from the subject and angled about 45 degrees.This was shot in RAW, but no manipulation, other than resizing, was done. It visually looks very close to the chart.
--Bob


was this at max lighting? or since it has a means to lower the power was it at another setting? could you try at different power settings and see if it still maintains the same balance? I am talking to my wife about getting the leds if we have the money available. Then I want to get some backdrops as I enjoy working with green screens and test with the black and white that you can get in most kits :)

thank you for the trouble of showing me... reminds me i need to get me a color card and grey card someday too. I know there not much but I keep forgetting hehe.

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Sep 12, 2019 23:07:24   #
rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona
 
Gator,
I'll have to do that tomorrow. I've already put the light setup away.
--Bob
gator81 wrote:
was this at max lighting? or since it has a means to lower the power was it at another setting? could you try at different power settings and see if it still maintains the same balance? I am talking to my wife about getting the leds if we have the money available. Then I want to get some backdrops as I enjoy working with green screens and test with the black and white that you can get in most kits :)

thank you for the trouble of showing me... reminds me i need to get me a color card and grey card someday too. I know there not much but I keep forgetting hehe.
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Sep 13, 2019 00:00:39   #
Haydon
 
Continuous light has a huge limitation in power and freezing action. Continuous lights are fine for product photography and newborns. Otherwise I'd look at using strobes/monolights for versatility. I own both and always go back to strobes. Look to off camera flash to create dimension to your images with an RF trigger. A good value is the Godox AD 200. Substantially stronger than a speedlight but keep in mind this is strictly off camera work but it's very compact and it comes at a very reasonable price. Look at the Flashpoint brand of Godox for in house warranty advantages.

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Sep 13, 2019 00:35:00   #
gator81 Loc: Jeffersonville Indiana
 
Haydon wrote:
Continuous light has a huge limitation in power and freezing action. Continuous lights are fine for product photography and newborns. Otherwise I'd look at using strobes/monolights for versatility. I own both and always go back to strobes. Look to off camera flash to create dimension to your images with an RF trigger. A good value is the Godox AD 200. Substantially stronger than a speedlight but keep in mind this is strictly off camera work but it's very compact and it comes at a very reasonable price. Look at the Flashpoint brand of Godox for in house warranty advantages.
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sweet I will check that out

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Sep 13, 2019 13:26:05   #
rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona
 
Gator, as promised, here's one with the lighting set at approximately 1/2 the intensity value of yesterday's photo. Again, SOOC, everything set to Auto.

Oh, and if you ever get to the Phoenix area, meeting for you to purchase a beer for the extra work would be nice.
--Bob
gator81 wrote:
was this at max lighting? or since it has a means to lower the power was it at another setting? could you try at different power settings and see if it still maintains the same balance? I am talking to my wife about getting the leds if we have the money available. Then I want to get some backdrops as I enjoy working with green screens and test with the black and white that you can get in most kits :)

thank you for the trouble of showing me... reminds me i need to get me a color card and grey card someday too. I know there not much but I keep forgetting hehe.
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Sep 13, 2019 16:53:10   #
gator81 Loc: Jeffersonville Indiana
 
rmalarz wrote:
Gator, as promised, here's one with the lighting set at approximately 1/2 the intensity value of yesterday's photo. Again, SOOC, everything set to Auto.

Oh, and if you ever get to the Phoenix area, meeting for you to purchase a beer for the extra work would be nice.
--Bob


I can see only a small difference, but very small to my old eyes :)
Believe it or not I had hich hiked through flagstaff like 38yrs ago hehe and back this way about 7 months later hehe.
If I am blessed and I can get down that way It would be an honor meet up with you. :)

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Oct 15, 2019 23:43:33   #
gator81 Loc: Jeffersonville Indiana
 
I am sorry I have not been back soon enough, Just when you think your starting to get better you find out you have a tumor on inside of your bladder and its cancerous :/ Surgery went well and they are testing to see if they removed it all or its going to be trouble... I will not share the process of them doing this but can say that it was Very uncomfortable ...

As for what post I have read, i Have a 430EX II speedflash for my camera, the remote trigger i have been researching would have a pass through for the flash that i would use more for fill when the wife and I do some shooting down by the river. The hard part is that a local camera shop was telling me to make sure any remote hardware will trigger that speedflash or I could have troubles.
I am really looking more into a cheap kit that has the background stand and 3 muslin drops, I guess that is more of why i was looking at the cheap lights for fill and led lights to have lower heat.

I may have to try and get my phone to be the trigger again as after selling some stuff I only have around 300$ to spend :( and I am trying to get the best bang for my buck to start with.

everyone has been so much help and I cannot thank you all enough. This is something that helps me take my mind off other things and give me a lot of enjoyment. Again thank you

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Oct 24, 2019 00:12:54   #
gator81 Loc: Jeffersonville Indiana
 
Just as a follow up, surgery went well and a week later the reports from doctor informed me that they were able to get all the cancer out. I am still back for a couple more test to make sure, but it was just great news.

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