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Oct 12, 2019 16:05:59   #
hj Loc: Florida
 
Blurryeyed wrote:
Well the OP listed his cameras, both full frames.


Yes he did, but some of the subsequent comments were better suited to a cropped camera and might confuse someone not paying attention.

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Oct 12, 2019 16:08:11   #
hj Loc: Florida
 
mas24 wrote:
He made a quick correction on that. That quote was the alert to him.


I missed his correction - my fault. That's what happens with a knee jerk reaction without finishing the thread.

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Oct 12, 2019 16:09:04   #
Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.
 
hj wrote:
Yes he did, but some of the subsequent comments were better suited to a cropped camera and might confuse someone not paying attention.


I agree, but you never know, personally I don't like a 35mm or a 50mm as a portrait lens on a full frame but many do, everyone has their own taste, but I agree on a APS-C camera those shorter lenses would make more sense and a 135 would be awfully long for most folks.

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Oct 12, 2019 16:12:35   #
hj Loc: Florida
 
Blurryeyed wrote:
I agree, but you never know, personally I don't like a 35mm or a 50mm as a portrait lens on a full frame but many do, everyone has their own taste, but I agree on a APS-C camera those shorter lenses would make more sense and a 135 would be awfully long for most folks.


You are correct on both counts. So many recommending the 50mm for a full-frame when it actually is better suited to the 1.6 crop factor making it approximately an 80mm.

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Oct 12, 2019 16:32:16   #
tonyantony
 
canon 100mm prime

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Oct 12, 2019 18:21:44   #
ELNikkor
 
I'd get the 50mm 1.8 for a song; it will be fine for 50mm portraits, but 85 1.8 is my favorite for portraits.

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Oct 12, 2019 19:16:40   #
mp97070 Loc: Central Oregon
 
Since my first camera (film, manual everything), which came with a 50mm lens, I have always had a 50mm lens. I can zoom in and out with my feet (not near a cliff) and get great results. I have done landscapes and portraits with great results. I do have a 50mm lens currently on my camera. I have a 105mm that I prefer for portraits now, but still use the 50 a lot. If it broke today, another would be ordered immediately. For reference, I have a full frame camera.

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Oct 12, 2019 20:18:56   #
rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona
 
I'd definitely add a 50mm lens, but not for portraits. For portraits, I'd recommend a 105 or 135.
--Bob

NickPJr wrote:
I'm a Canon guy - 5D IV and 5Drs I shoot mainly landscapes but recently, I'm gravitating towards some portrait but cant decide if this is something I want to do. Current lenses are 70-300, 100 -400, 24-105 and 16-35. All are L.

I have often heard that a 50 MM lens replicates what the human eye sees. I have been considering adding new glass but am needing guidance from the experts. What are ya'll thoughts?

TIA,

Nick

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Oct 12, 2019 20:29:31   #
DaveyDitzer Loc: Western PA
 
E.L.. Shapiro wrote:
https://www.uglyhedgehog.com/tpr?p=10571379&t=613611

And...

https://www.uglyhedgehog.com/tpr?p=10578087&t=613611


I wrote a detailed post on this question as well as a follow up post. Click on to the links.


Thank you for the concise lessons. Glad you share your experiences with us.

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Oct 12, 2019 20:33:37   #
DaveyDitzer Loc: Western PA
 
E.L.shapiro
Thank you for the concise lessons and sharing your experience. While I have experience, it's never so much that prevents me from learning from someone with more.

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Oct 12, 2019 21:55:55   #
Notorious T.O.D. Loc: Harrisburg, North Carolina
 
I have the 85 f/1.8 and it is great for portraits and some indoor sports. I use it on a FF and APS-H 1.3 crop body where it is about 110mm fov. It is also a very fast focusing lens...

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Oct 12, 2019 22:23:33   #
Old Edmundo
 
For portraits I would recommend the 85MM f 1.2. Take advantage of the resolution that the 5Dsr has to offer. The 50mm f1.2 would be my second choice only because portraits tend to be a closer view of the subject. The longer lens helps keep further away from the model, and helps through the background out of focus. I use both in the studio , but tend to use the 24-70mm f 2.8 mounted on the 5d IV while on location just because of convenience .

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Oct 12, 2019 22:32:54   #
jeep_daddy Loc: Prescott AZ
 
GoofyNewfie wrote:
50mm is too short for a classic head or head and shoulders portrait on a full-frame sensor. The distance you would be shooting from distorts the features a bit. Get a 100mm or at least an 85 for a more pleasing perspective. Your 24-105 is no slouch. I use my 70-200 a lot.

Sharpness isn’t as important as good lighting and posing.
Learn to use reflectors and off-camera lighting.

FWIW, I don't even own a 50 for my FF and I've been a pro for over 40 years.


I've listened to many pro portrait photographers and I have to agree with everything said by Goofie. A 50mm lens is probably fine for full body portraits but not head shots or head/ shoulder shots.

If you buy a nifty 50 you will be able to see how you like it without a large investment.

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Oct 12, 2019 22:43:09   #
quicksilver
 
Every camera bag should have a 50mm 1.4 lens

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Oct 13, 2019 08:58:23   #
davidf_logan Loc: Logan, Utah
 
For portraits I would suggest looking for a used 135 f/2. Have a look at the Flickr site -- Google "Canon 135mm f/2 Flickr". Can't go wrong. Also, I have a Zeiss planar 50 but it is manual so focussing is tricky. I mainly use it for static situations but on the 5D iv it is great.

As others have said, you can replicate the look with your zooms. But you cannot replicate the feel of the primes so easily.

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