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Oct 10, 2019 06:16:48   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
This is the "smallest DX mirrorless camera." List price: $999.99.

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Oct 10, 2019 06:43:26   #
CO
 
I hope they have improved the autofocus performance over the Z6 and Z7. They couldn't match the AF performance of my D500.

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Oct 10, 2019 07:55:47   #
Bill_de Loc: US
 
The 2 lens kit is $1350 covering 'equivalent' focal lengths from 24mm to 375mm. That's a pretty nice entry level , or walk about kit. The lenses are slow, most likely to keep the price and size down. VR is in the lenses, not the body.

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1511295-REG/nikon_1632_z_50_mirrorless_digital.html

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Oct 10, 2019 16:28:37   #
Cwilson341 Loc: Central Florida
 
This has been on my mind all day. A few months ago I bought a Sony a6400 as a travel camera. It takes great pictures but I just can’t get comfortable with the different options and menus. I looked at the Zs, because I shoot Nikon, but there wasn’t enough savings on size or weight. It sounds like the Z5 is exactly what I wanted.

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Oct 10, 2019 17:03:01   #
IDguy Loc: Idaho
 
Cwilson341 wrote:
This has been on my mind all day. A few months ago I bought a Sony a6400 as a travel camera. It takes great pictures but I just can’t get comfortable with the different options and menus. I looked at the Zs, because I shoot Nikon, but there wasn’t enough savings on size or weight. It sounds like the Z5 is exactly what I wanted.


Yes. I tried a Sony NEX7 and dumped it for the same reasons.

It is what I would have preferred over my Z6, but that is a done deal and I also havea D5600. So this may not be coming soon to my household.

More info: https://www.dpreview.com/reviews/nikon-z50-initial-review-what-s-new-how-it-compares/1?ref_=pe_1822230_442454390_dpr_nl_394_5

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Oct 10, 2019 17:04:35   #
IDguy Loc: Idaho
 
Bill_de wrote:
The 2 lens kit is $1350 covering 'equivalent' focal lengths from 24mm to 375mm. That's a pretty nice entry level , or walk about kit. The lenses are slow, most likely to keep the price and size down. VR is in the lenses, not the body.

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1511295-REG/nikon_1632_z_50_mirrorless_digital.html

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They may have done away with the in body stabilization because it is a disaster on my Z6. The sensor gets dirty fast and they don’t let you clean it.

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Oct 10, 2019 17:10:47   #
Hamltnblue Loc: Springfield PA
 
In body stabilization was removed to keep cost down.
having it has nothing to do with a dirty sensor.

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Oct 10, 2019 17:12:47   #
IDguy Loc: Idaho
 
Hamltnblue wrote:
In body stabilization was removed to keep cost down.
having it has nothing to do with a dirty sensor.


It does because the shutter remains open on the Zs when changing lenses. And it is the reason they prohibit wet cleaning.

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Oct 10, 2019 18:30:23   #
amfoto1 Loc: San Jose, Calif. USA
 
It's going to be interesting to see how Canon responds.

They've had a lot of success with their M50 (top selling mirrorless in Japan)... but after five or six years still only have around 8 EF-M lenses available. Now they're busy designing and building RF-mount lenses... so I don't expect we'll see much new glass for the M-series cameras anytime soon.

Canon has treated their M-series more as "point n shoots with interchangeable lenses", than as serious amateur/pro grade cameras. I don't know if it's true, but have heard the M-series use a firmware more akin to what the Powershots use, rather than what the DSLRs use.

Now Canon will have three ditinct series of lenses running parallel, with limited interchangeability. The RF and EF-M mount cameras can use the EF and EF-S mount lenses, via an adapter. But RF-mount lenses can only be used on full frame RF-mount cameras. And EF-M lenses can only be used on APS-C format EF-M cameras. Three lens mounts... One with both full frame and APS-C variants, although the EF-S lenses use a modified EF mount designed to prevent their use on anything other than APS-C DSLRs. Another mount is full frame only. And yet another is APS-C only.

Nikon might have been slow to start... is just about the last manufacturer who didn't have an APS-C/DX format mirrorless and is way overdue introducing one.... but will only have essentially two lens series. Their Z-mount lenses will come in both FX and DX variants, but both will be usable on either full frame or DX Z-mount cameras. They'll still have both FX and DX F-mount lenses for their DSLRs, but (same as Canon EF/EF-S) those are adaptable for use on the Z-series cameras. Z-mount lenses are not adaptable for use on DSLRs.... Still, two lens mount systems, each with FX and DX variants.

If Canon introduces an APS-C camera with the RF-mount, that will be a death knell for the M-series and their lenses.

Cwilson341 wrote:
...It sounds like the Z5 is exactly what I wanted.


You mean "Z50", I'm sure.

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Oct 10, 2019 18:56:41   #
BebuLamar
 
A very large mount for an APS-C sensor camera. No IBIS so now you have to have VR and non VR lenses.

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Oct 11, 2019 06:05:14   #
mas24 Loc: Southern CA
 
Sony cameras have IBIS. So having VR lenses aren't really necessary, if you have such a Sony camera. Nikon VR lenses for crop sensors cost more than non VR lenses. A market focused mostly on the amateur/hobbyist. It is best to have Nikon VR lenses. Not always necessary on shorter focal length lenses. The APS-C mirrorless battle is on, among the camera manufacturers. Sony's a6000 series is selling like hotcakes. Fujifilm 's T-20 and T-30 have good reviews, and are selling well. So, why can't Nikon get into the competition with lightweight affordable APS-C cameras? Nikon came out with this camera, just in time for the Black Friday Sales, that will begin next month. It will sell well, I'm certain.

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Oct 11, 2019 08:21:24   #
billnikon Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont
 
jerryc41 wrote:
This is the "smallest DX mirrorless camera." List price: $999.99.


Interesting again, I put this on yesterday and Administration moved it to another area. But you say even less about the Z50 than I did and Administration put your post on the photography forum. Interesting the way they treat two individuals with the same subject.

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Oct 11, 2019 08:37:53   #
larkahn
 
The original A6000 (still popular) as well as the A6300, A6400, and the new A6100 do not have IBIS.

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Oct 11, 2019 08:43:21   #
Bill_de Loc: US
 
billnikon wrote:
Interesting again, I put this on yesterday and Administration moved it to another area. But you say even less about the Z50 than I did and Administration put your post on the photography forum. Interesting the way they treat two individuals with the same subject.


One would think that after all your time here you would have learned that if you start a thread with a link in it, it properly gets moved to the "Links & Resources" section.

It ain't about you, but your lack of compliance with the forum rules.

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Oct 11, 2019 09:40:41   #
Soul Dr. Loc: Beautiful Shenandoah Valley
 
Cwilson341 wrote:
This has been on my mind all day. A few months ago I bought a Sony a6400 as a travel camera. It takes great pictures but I just can’t get comfortable with the different options and menus. I looked at the Zs, because I shoot Nikon, but there wasn’t enough savings on size or weight. It sounds like the Z5 is exactly what I wanted.


Have you ever tried a Fuji mirrorless camera?
With most of the controls on the body, very little need to go into menus.
I have lot of different brands of cameras and enjoy using my Fujis the most.

Will

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