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Sep 30, 2019 22:03:33   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
ppage wrote:
Thanks everyone, such a great community!

I am going to go manual with auto iso which I just proved that camera supports it. I am watching the iso change according as I meter from darker to bright light in manual mode. It's how I shoot wildlife.

f/2.8
1/200
Auto iso

Turned out to be a dry run. Mark Desaulnier is coming tomorrow night, not tonight. Well at least I know right where the location is!

Does the 6DII allow for an exposure off the 0-mark or only at the 0-mark with auto ISO in manual? I recognize now that I failed to describe the process correctly in my earlier comment about the 5DIV where Exposure Compensation also applies to Manual w/ Auto ISO w/ EC. To accomplish exposing to the right (ETTR), it's necessary on my EOS models to have the meter at +1 or higher above the 0-mark.

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Sep 30, 2019 23:26:27   #
ppage Loc: Pittsburg, (San Francisco area)
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
Does the 6DII allow for an exposure off the 0-mark or only at the 0-mark with auto ISO in manual? I recognize now that I failed to describe the process correctly in my earlier comment about the 5DIV where Exposure Compensation also applies to Manual w/ Auto ISO w/ EC. To accomplish exposing to the right (ETTR), it's necessary on my EOS models to have the meter at +1 or higher above the 0-mark.



I don't think EC is available in manual mode on the 6DII, that would be nice to have. If I have to go up or down a stop it will have to be with some combination of shutter speed, aperture and iso. It is a reasonable performer with respect to noise and I figure at 2.8 how bad can things get right?

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Oct 1, 2019 01:25:38   #
SteveR Loc: Michigan
 
If you use EC on a shot, be sure to set it back to 0 or you'll wonder what's happening on your next shot. It happened to me.

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Oct 1, 2019 04:04:51   #
rmorrison1116 Loc: Near Valley Forge, Pennsylvania
 
The 6D mk II is a good camera and with 26 megapixels and a Digic 7 processor, it's very capable of quality images shot at high ISO'S. Way too many photographers who grew up in the film era are still stuck in the past and aren't willing to go higher than ISO 1000. With today's post processing software, higher resolution cameras and advanced camera processors and software/firmware, you can take great photos at fairly high ISO'S. Your camera has a normal ISO ceiling of 40,000 and an expanded ceiling of 102,400. Try shooting at an ISO around half the normal ceiling and I'm sure you will be able to produce good photos in average indoor ambient light. Shoot RAW and use Canon's DPP software to post process the images.

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Oct 1, 2019 04:27:11   #
SteveR Loc: Michigan
 
rmorrison1116 wrote:
The 6D mk II is a good camera and with 26 megapixels and a Digic 7 processor, it's very capable of quality images shot at high ISO'S. Way too many photographers who grew up in the film era are still stuck in the past and aren't willing to go higher than ISO 1000. With today's post processing software, higher resolution cameras and advanced camera processors and software/firmware, you can take great photos at fairly high ISO'S. Your camera has a normal ISO ceiling of 40,000 and an expanded ceiling of 102,400. Try shooting at an ISO around half the normal ceiling and I'm sure you will be able to produce good photos in average indoor ambient light. Shoot RAW and use Canon's DPP software to post process the images.
The 6D mk II is a good camera and with 26 megapixe... (show quote)


ISO 20,000? I don't think so.

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Oct 1, 2019 04:50:13   #
rmorrison1116 Loc: Near Valley Forge, Pennsylvania
 
SteveR wrote:
ISO 20,000? I don't think so.


Why not? Have you ever tried using higher ISO'S on a camera capable of using them? If the cameras max ISO is 102400 then 20000 isn't really all that high! We're not shooting with film! I shoot at high ISO'S all the time when necessary and I have no problems.

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Oct 1, 2019 05:39:04   #
Haydon
 
rmorrison1116 wrote:
Why not? Have you ever tried using higher ISO'S on a camera capable of using them? If the cameras max ISO is 102400 then 20000 isn't really all that high! We're not shooting with film! I shoot at high ISO'S all the time when necessary and I have no problems.


Please post a full size image at 20,000 without adjustments. I'm curious to see what that looks like since I rarely shoot over ISO 3200. I realize I'm shooting with an older body (5DIII). Please shoot that with a 5DIV if you wouldn't mind. Thanks in advance morrison.

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Oct 1, 2019 06:40:11   #
WessoJPEG Loc: Cincinnati, Ohio
 
kmpankopf wrote:
I agree with Paul on EC. I can certainly be your friend. If you get there early, practice - chimp, practice, chimp. However with Aperture priority, you can get burned with lower speeds.
I've changed to Manual with AUTO ISO and love it. I have max ISO set up in camera and haven't looked back.


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Oct 1, 2019 07:23:29   #
Notorious T.O.D. Loc: Harrisburg, North Carolina
 
My 1Dx2 has M and auto ISO that predates the 5D4 release. I don’t believe the EC has any effect when using Auto ISO and M. I have not checked the manual, just going from memory of playing with Auto ISO.

CHG_CANON wrote:
Alas, I think the EOS 6DII does not offer Manual w/ Auto ISO. In the EOS world, that's a feature that arrived with the 5DIV, and maybe others since then.

I was Aperture Priority for years, but with static ISO settings. What I found was the difference between Manual and Aperture w/ EC what simply which wheel on the body controlled which setting. Auto ISO doesn't change the controls; rather, it just gives the camera more freedom in how it responds to your EC dial movement.

When I do change bodies again, I look forward to Manual w/ Auto ISO for a 'set it and forget it' approach to aperture and shutterspeed while keeping the exposure at a desired offset to the 0-mark.
Alas, I think the EOS 6DII does not offer Manual w... (show quote)

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Oct 1, 2019 07:28:19   #
Notorious T.O.D. Loc: Harrisburg, North Carolina
 
I have shot ISO 40,000 indoors before...

SteveR wrote:
ISO 20,000? I don't think so.

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Oct 1, 2019 07:29:30   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
You have to get the light in there one way or the other. When you select the aperture, the camera has lots of shutter speeds to select from - a lot more than available apertures. Regardless what settings the camera is using, it's all a matter of aperture, shutter, and ISO. You can select any or all of those three or let the camera do it, but the combination of the three must satisfy the camera to get a good exposure.

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Oct 1, 2019 07:30:34   #
foathog Loc: Greensboro, NC
 
Maybe I'm wrong but why not shoot in Shutter priority? Certainly you can have an idea of what the slowest speeds you can shoot. The slower the speed the larger the aperture. If the problem is blurry shots due to a slow Shutter that the camera picks in Ap priority. Pick the shutter and work in reverse. In bright sunlight then you can return to shutter priority.



ppage wrote:
I shoot on manual a lot and do well most of the time but I get the feeling that I'm working too hard sometimes and would like to shoot in Aperture Priority more. I avoid it because I get burned by low shutter speeds sometimes leading to blurry photos. It seems in its effort to compensate for indoor conditions it will go too low on shutter.

I'm using a Canon 6DII and a 70-200 2.8 MIII. I am hoping the fast lens (at 2.8) and auto iso will keep the shutter up past 160. Anything else I should be doing? Exposure compensation fit in here? I am taking photos of a congressman town hall meeting in an elementary school multi use room.

Thanks!
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Oct 1, 2019 07:38:30   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
Notorious T.O.D. wrote:
My 1Dx2 has M and auto ISO that predates the 5D4 release. I don’t believe the EC has any effect when using Auto ISO and M. I have not checked the manual, just going from memory of playing with Auto ISO.


I added another later post correcting / expanding this comment. Doesn't seem like you kept reading and returned here to correct yours ... That correction addressed Exposure Compensation being available in Manual w/ AUTO ISO and using EC to maintain an exposure + / - to the 0-mark on the meter.

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Oct 1, 2019 07:47:53   #
khorinek
 
boberic wrote:
Why not try shutter priority, with the speed you need, and the ISO set so you get the f-stop you want?


I agree, why not try shutter priority? With that lens, I would not shoot slower than 1/200 anyway.

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Oct 1, 2019 08:18:14   #
mizzee Loc: Boston,Ma
 
Don’t forget about your ISO in low light. I shoot in aperture priority most of the time and adjust the ISO to a point where I can see a shutter speed that I can hand hold.

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