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Sep 29, 2019 07:10:40   #
billnikon Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont
 
PixelBoy wrote:
This is easy......go mirrorless. Now that the viewfinders are so fine and they respond to lens adjustments so fast, that's they way. In the not too distant future, the mirror digi-cam will go the way of the horse shoe. The mirrorless camera act like the cameras' you know and they are less expensive to make and can take more of a beating. My next camera will be mirrorless.


You may be right. BUT, about mirrorless taking a beating, if you drop a mirrorless or a DSLR, bad things happen. And, I am not so sure about the "LESS EXPENSIVE", Sony have many that are not inexpensive.
And, what do you mean when you say, The "mirrorless camera act like the cameras' you know"

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Sep 29, 2019 09:03:20   #
BebuLamar
 
To the OP, after over 120 responses did you find the answer? You're looking for the answer in the wrong place in my opinion. The answer should come from you and not from any other people.

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Sep 29, 2019 09:11:38   #
sr71 Loc: In Col. Juan Seguin Land
 
Dennis833 wrote:
I shoot landscapes for a living and will never ever use a DSLR again. I'm an ageing photographer that shoots from a tripod using manual focus and I cannot see anything on an LCD unless a carry a magnifyinig hood. Shooting with a mirrorless EVF is just a breeze.


That Tasmanian devil lives in a cool place, nice web site and pictures

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Sep 29, 2019 11:15:18   #
CatMarley Loc: North Carolina
 
billnikon wrote:
You may be right. BUT, about mirrorless taking a beating, if you drop a mirrorless or a DSLR, bad things happen. And, I am not so sure about the "LESS EXPENSIVE", Sony have many that are not inexpensive.
And, what do you mean when you say, The "mirrorless camera act like the cameras' you know"


I have dropped my Fuji XT2 twice, once on the kitchen floor, (hardwood) and once outdoors on concrete. Not a scratch, works fine. Fewer finely attached heavy components in a mirrorless, less stuff to jog out of alignment. But maybe Fujis are just made better!

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Sep 29, 2019 11:38:53   #
JAshcraft
 
Chris,
I agree with Joe. I have the Nikon d7200, 35mm 1.8, 50mm 1.8, 18-140mm, 70-300mm and the 200-500mm lens. At 69 years old the weight of carrying all the lenses, except for the 200-500 - (When I use this lens I do not carry others) was becoming an issue. I looked at all the mirrorless cameras and, for my budget, the Fuji X-T2 with the 18-55mm kit lens and the 16mm f2.8 lens was perfect. The lenses are metal and the quality is superb. It still amazes me how light they are and the quality of the photos they produce. The full frame Nikon you have is an excellent camera. If you choose to go with a mirrorless camera keep in mind that the body of a mirrorless is lighter than a dslr, but it is the lens you use that must be considered. I find that my d7200 with the 70-300mm lens is a great match in size and weight. I do not think I would want to place a long zoom on the X-T2. Sony makes great lenses, but check the price and weight, first. They are expensive and heavy. Rent before you buy...

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Sep 29, 2019 13:23:30   #
Kananaskis
 
Chris,
Mirrorless really has very few real world advantages over conventional DSLR's, the weight difference becoming a mute point upon buying quality glass, quality glass is heavy whether in mirrorless or DSLR.
Face it we all look (chimping) at our tiny screens zooming in to check focus and composition, either way screens on both systems are small.
The ergonomics of the Nikon D850 and menu's are superior to most of the mirrorless cameras only the Sony A9 and A7r4 can match it for accurate acquisition of fast moving subjects plus the image quality of the D850 is stellar and you are already well invested into the Nikon system.
You could thin out your lense choices aiming more at your intended goals along with narrowing down to two bodies the new D850 and your 810.
There's extensive coverage within the Nikon world for lenses and excellent quality choices from Tamron and Sigma to implement into your system.
I have shot with Nikon, Canon, Fuji, all are excellent with easy to use menu systems, I have used the Sony systems finding the menu systems challenged. The ever increasing image quality and great AF is top notch on the best Sony cameras which is something to consider if you did consider switching.
Bottom line you are already well into an excellent system which you are very experienced with it simply needs some tweeking to help you achieve your professional goals.

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Sep 29, 2019 15:07:56   #
Glenn Reiner Loc: Sacramento CA
 
Sound advice Joe

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Sep 29, 2019 16:42:57   #
aellman Loc: Boston MA
 
Joe Blow wrote:
Then stick to a full frame camera. There is nothing wrong with a Nikon 810, it's a great camera.

My personal preference is to stick with DSLR, mostly due to the optical viewfinder. If the electronic viewfinder doesn't bother you then your decision becomes a lot harder.

The weight difference is minimal but might be noticeable using smaller lenses. Carrying extra batteries might also mitigate that weight difference. Having to also add a converter to adapt the lenses would also add weight.

If it was me, I would keep the camera and invest in a new lens or two and maybe a camera bag or tripod. A new camera won't take better photos, but a new lens can.

Good luck.
Then stick to a full frame camera. There is nothin... (show quote)


I hate electronic viewfinders.

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Sep 29, 2019 16:44:24   #
Chris Mannerino Loc: San Diego
 
Thank you.

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Sep 29, 2019 16:46:13   #
Chris Mannerino Loc: San Diego
 
CatMarley wrote:
I wouldn't buy the 850. You already have one of the big pro DSLR's and a fairly up to date model. You know that the trend is to get rid of mirrors, so why not wait for the Nikon pro level mirrorless?


Thank you! After reading all the post, it only makes sense to wait.

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Sep 29, 2019 17:31:59   #
Chris Mannerino Loc: San Diego
 
jaycoffman wrote:
I think your situation is a classic conundrum as it will lead to any number of unexpected twists. I find these fun be nerve wracking at times.

First, I agree that for your stated preference of landscapes you're best off with a full frame system. You have a great list of lenses but I must admit that I'm not sure how many are full frame and how many crop frame. That could help your decision because switching to mirrorless is generally best getting lenses made for the new body. The D810 by all reports is an excellent camera and will probably meet your needs if you choose to stay with that. (The D7100 is a decent backup if you want one.)

On the other hand some of us like to push on to new things that take us a bit out of our comfort zone but may lead to improved pictures. I recently switched from my Nikon D7100 and crop lenses to a Sony a7iii with a Sony 24-105 full frame lens. The Sony menu still drives me crazy but I am slowly mastering it--at least for my purposes. The IQ and low light capabilities of the Sony are really good (although I'm not sure how that would compare to your D810). In general I'm very happy with switching and am enjoying learning a new system. If you like challenges and want to be on the cutting edge moving to mirrorless full frame is probably a viable idea. Good luck and enjoy.
I think your situation is a classic conundrum as i... (show quote)


Thank you Jay,

Your response was very thoughtful and poignant. After reviewing all the responses, I am going to sit tight for now. I think in 4-5 years (maybe less), I will go with mirrorless.

I am grateful for this forum.

Thanks again,

Chris

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Sep 29, 2019 17:35:06   #
Chris Mannerino Loc: San Diego
 
jackpinoh wrote:
Keep your current system. Spend the money you would have spent on a new system on a landscape workshop, somewhere you would like to go to; or on an on-line class on post processing.


Great advice, thank you!

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Sep 29, 2019 18:36:09   #
wmurnahan Loc: Bloomington IN
 
Kananaskis wrote:
Chris,
Mirrorless really has very few real world advantages over conventional DSLR's, the weight difference becoming a mute point upon buying quality glass, quality glass is heavy whether in mirrorless or DSLR.
Face it we all look (chimping) at our tiny screens zooming in to check focus and composition, either way screens on both systems are small.
The ergonomics of the Nikon D850 and menu's are superior to most of the mirrorless cameras only the Sony A9 and A7r4 can match it for accurate acquisition of fast moving subjects plus the image quality of the D850 is stellar and you are already well invested into the Nikon system.
You could thin out your lense choices aiming more at your intended goals along with narrowing down to two bodies the new D850 and your 810.
There's extensive coverage within the Nikon world for lenses and excellent quality choices from Tamron and Sigma to implement into your system.
I have shot with Nikon, Canon, Fuji, all are excellent with easy to use menu systems, I have used the Sony systems finding the menu systems challenged. The ever increasing image quality and great AF is top notch on the best Sony cameras which is something to consider if you did consider switching.
Bottom line you are already well into an excellent system which you are very experienced with it simply needs some tweeking to help you achieve your professional goals.
Chris, br Mirrorless really has very few real worl... (show quote)


I would disagree on one point, my a7ii with Sony/Zeiss 35 2.8, is way smaller than any DSLR thought of being and the glass is top quality. On my a6500, gives me a almost shirt pocketable digital camera with built in flash, again way smaller than any crop sensor DSLR.

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Sep 29, 2019 20:09:53   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
Beauty has so many forms, and the most beautiful thing is the confidence to go mirrorless.

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Sep 29, 2019 20:43:54   #
SuperFly6
 
I just switched to mirrorless due to the weight. For me, the weight was an issue due to surviving a head on collision. I'm a Canon user and decided to stay with them. There are a lot of pros and cons with each camera body. I know of issues with each but made my decision to stay with Canon. I purchased the EOS R. Yes, Nikon and Canon introduced their first full frame bodies and yes, both can will improve. Just as someone stated before, try renting one. Feel it in your hands. How it feels with and without the lenses to see if you like the grip/feel. Without the lens do you have more of a grip and with the lens, do you lose some grip?

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