post processing
Sep 29, 2019 13:16:27 #
Straight out of the camera is still processed by you camera manufacturers with their RAW conversion software that is part of the metadata of the file. It's 'baked' into the file and then up to us how to manipulate the output.
Even if you set your camera to shoot only .jpg, then you're handing that processing over to the camera's computer and it's throwing away huge amounts of data. Storage is cheap, so why would anyone want to shoot in jpg. (i.e. as an advanced amateur or professional)?
Even if you set your camera to shoot only .jpg, then you're handing that processing over to the camera's computer and it's throwing away huge amounts of data. Storage is cheap, so why would anyone want to shoot in jpg. (i.e. as an advanced amateur or professional)?
Sep 29, 2019 13:50:33 #
OZMON wrote:
does anyone on this forum just post pics as they are shot and not processed in any way.
Funny how so many users assume you needed to know how, why, when, etc. to post process, rather then answering your simple question.
I do post pictures right out of the camera but I would say the majority of my images have some amount of post-processing.
Happy trails.
Sep 29, 2019 13:51:49 #
Sep 29, 2019 14:21:40 #
Without getting into technicalities, I'm in love with the cat. We have one who looks like it, a rescued feral tom cat who is about 15 years old. Whatever you are doing to process your photos, it is working very well! Thank for sharing your procedures and photos.
Sep 29, 2019 14:37:30 #
mwsilvers
Loc: Central New Jersey
DAN Phillips wrote:
Yes, mine are always sooc. No post processing. I like the reality!
What gives you the impression that SOOC images are any more real? Your jpeg images are post processed from the camera's raw data, only the processing is done internally with fewer tools and little control by your over the final results. When we post process, we use that same raw data, only we have many more refined tools at our disposal and have complete control over the final image. Any tool can be used effectively or poorly. Its no different with post processing software. In the hands of someone who is unskilled the results can be a terribly overcooked image, but in the hands of a skilled user the results can be remarkable.
Sep 29, 2019 14:39:18 #
Kind of like telling a lab to print negatives with no change of settings. Would be pretty crappy. Reality is what we make it. There's no 'neutral' reality...
Sep 29, 2019 14:39:44 #
Fotoartist wrote:
You mean like let the drug store do it?
Oh and by the way how much did your printer cost?
Sep 29, 2019 15:36:36 #
OZMON wrote:
does anyone on this forum just post pics as they are shot and not processed in any way.
I don't post anything unless asked for. However, my wife post a lot of my pictures on facebook unprocessed because she never could wait until I processed them.
Sep 29, 2019 15:43:54 #
I try not to crop unless I absolutely have to, but I do shoot raw so some post processing is always required.
Sep 29, 2019 15:57:53 #
RodeoMan
Loc: St Joseph, Missouri
leftj wrote:
A rather silly question.
I guess we all need to run our questions by you to make sure that they are worthy of posting. Perhaps you could provide us with an example of a question that is not silly.
Sep 29, 2019 16:14:38 #
mwsilvers
Loc: Central New Jersey
RodeoMan wrote:
I guess we all need to run our questions by you to make sure that they are worthy of posting. Perhaps you could provide us with an example of a question that is not silly.
Perhaps he was referring to the fact that all images are processed and that the OP's question is therefore not logical. It's a question of whether images are processed in the camera or afterwards on a computer. While I would not use the word silly myself, it is clear that the OP does not understand that a jpeg image SOOC is created using processing features in the camera which modifies the the camera's native raw data much like post processing software, but with less refinement and much less control over the final results. If the OP had asked specifically about post processing, which was probably his intent. some of the responses to his initial post would have been different.
Sep 29, 2019 16:25:26 #
gmsatty wrote:
It was my understanding that shooting RAW almost always requires post processing. If you shoot jpeg, the camera processes the image for you.
That gets said so often, and I am not sure why. I do less post processing working with raw files than I did when I worked with JPEGs, not more.
Why would raw files necessarily require more processing than JPEG files? Raw files allow for more latitude in post processing, but they don't require it.
Another thing we hear often is that JPEG is about "getting it right in camera," while raw is for "fixing it in post." I think that is false, as well.
Mike
Sep 29, 2019 16:33:10 #
bpulv
Loc: Buena Park, CA
Blenheim Orange wrote:
That gets said so often, and I am not sure why. I ... (show quote)
It depends on how you use your RAW files. When I print them on paper, as a minimum I slightly compress the color gamut so that white ink is deposited even in the whitest part of the image and limit the black ink in the blackest shadow to prevent loss of detail. In practice however, I edit all images I am going to use because I demand as much perfection as possible.
Sep 29, 2019 16:46:05 #
bpulv wrote:
It depends on how you use your RAW files. When I print them on paper, as a minimum I slightly compress the color gamut so that white ink is deposited even in the whitest part of the image and limit the black ink in the blackest shadow to prevent loss of detail. In practice however, I edit all images I am going to use because I demand as much perfection as possible.
Sure. Agreed.
Mike
Sep 29, 2019 18:16:57 #
I find this question very amusing and miss leading - basically, the camera never captures the seen as is viewed by the eye. Most photographers would shoot in JPEG format and dependant on the camera settings (either programable or manual) the straight out of camera image has been changed. If you shoot in RAW it must be processed to bring out the real seen.
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