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Sep 28, 2019 13:15:56   #
Abo
 
gvarner wrote:
we have 4/3 cameras (which doesn’t make any sense to me).


4/3... a vulgar fraction ;-)

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Sep 28, 2019 13:59:41   #
Mac Loc: Pittsburgh, Philadelphia now Hernando Co. Fl.
 
Bill_de wrote:
If you really wanted to get away from it you wouldn't have created another thread on the topic that has been beat to death recently.

Call it whatever you want, and others will do the same. In the course of a typical day how many people ask you what you call your cell phone or GARA?

If you walk into a store to buy one do you ask for a cell phone, or do you ask for mashed potatoes?

If you just want to continue this endless topic, that's OK too.

Here are links to over a dozen UHH threads on cell phones that might make interesting reading.

https://www.google.com/search?q=cell+phone+camera+site%3A+uglyhedgehog.com&sourceid=ie7&rls=com.microsoft:en-US:IE-Address&ie=&oe=#spf=1569680781966
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Sep 28, 2019 14:02:30   #
Mac Loc: Pittsburgh, Philadelphia now Hernando Co. Fl.
 
Longshadow wrote:
I call it a phone camera.


I guess he never thought of that.

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Sep 28, 2019 14:06:18   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
Mac wrote:
I guess he never thought of that.


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Sep 28, 2019 14:23:07   #
Wingpilot Loc: Wasilla. Ak
 
gvarner wrote:
Why not just call it a 1/3 camera or a 1/3-sensor camera since most of their sensors are about 1/3" in size? After all, we have 4/3 cameras (which doesn’t make any sense to me). Trying to get away from this cellphone or smartphone nonsense. Making a phone call is the least that those devices do.


How about just calling it a camera.

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Sep 28, 2019 15:58:29   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
John from gpwmi wrote:
Actually 4/3 does not really refer to the size of the sensor. It is the width to height ratio, in the landscape orientation. The Micro 4/3 sensor is approximately ¼ the area of FF. However, because it is an industry standard it has a unique size as well. My iPhone6 also has a 4/3 aspect ratio, but the sensor is many times smaller due to smaller and fewer pixels. I don't believe there are any industry standards for smartphone sensors, which is probably good with technology changing so rapidly. So maybe for now phone camera is appropriate.
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4/3 IS a video camera tube designation. Before digital, practically all TV had a 4:3 aspect ratio. The 4/3 nomenclature was always about tube diameter, not aspect ratios.

https://youtu.be/m072i-jDSg4

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Sep 28, 2019 17:26:52   #
Bob Mevis Loc: Plymouth, Indiana
 
Scruples wrote:
Right now we are steadily approaching the summit. We are at a small plateau in the development of cameras on those thingamabobs. In time, we shall soon see these whatchamacallits rival those name brand beasties. Be patient. There will be a cell phone...Er!...camera in everyone's pocket.

Oh and by the way, the owner's manual for these phones will be 800 plus pages long with 300 pages devoted to the camera feature.


I agree.

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Sep 29, 2019 07:20:11   #
billnikon Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont
 
gvarner wrote:
Why not just call it a 1/3 camera or a 1/3-sensor camera since most of their sensors are about 1/3" in size? After all, we have 4/3 cameras (which doesn’t make any sense to me). Trying to get away from this cellphone or smartphone nonsense. Making a phone call is the least that those devices do.


A camera phone is a camera phone and will always be called a camera phone because that is what the phone industry has dubbed it, A CAMERA PHONE.
Because, the camera is in the phone, hence, CAMERA PHONE.
Got it, GOOD. Now, let's move on to the next difficult post.

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Sep 29, 2019 07:33:42   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
As far as I'm concerned, camera makers dropped the ball when it came to naming - anything. Where sensors are concerned, the names mean nothing to the average person - or the average photographer. Imagine if a ruler began in inches, switched to mm, then to gimlets, frions, and hooplets. If camera makers had used mm as the standard, they could have named each sensor size based on that. Whatever terminology is accepted for cell phone cameras, it will do nothing to avoid more confusion.

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Sep 29, 2019 07:35:18   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
Scruples wrote:
Oh and by the way, the owner's manual for these phones will be 800 plus pages long with 300 pages devoted to the camera feature.


Hundreds of pages of WARNINGS, too, in all-caps.

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Sep 29, 2019 07:39:05   #
KoniOmegaflex Loc: Central KY
 
It's sort of like 5/3 Bank. I've never understood that.

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Sep 29, 2019 07:55:21   #
billnikon Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont
 
KoniOmegaflex wrote:
It's sort of like 5/3 Bank. I've never understood that.


They take $5.00, and return $3.00 a year later.

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Sep 29, 2019 08:19:23   #
Bill_de Loc: US
 
billnikon wrote:
A camera phone is a camera phone and will always be called a camera phone because that is what the phone industry has dubbed it, A CAMERA PHONE.
Because, the camera is in the phone, hence, CAMERA PHONE.
Got it, GOOD. Now, let's move on to the next difficult post.


I think the industry calls them smart phones. Apple can still get by with iPhone. In spite of all the hype on photo sites like this, taking photos is not generally the greatest use these devices get. Messaging/texting is #1. Phone calls is 2 or 3. Cameras are below that.

You may see lots of phones taking pictures at tourist attractions and events, but when folks get back on the job Monday morning the camera becomes a communication device. Just look at the drivers in that cars next to you during rush hour. Are they taking pictures? When somebody bumps into you with their shopping cart at the supermarket, are they taking pictures?

Photographers need to get out from behind the viewfinder and see the world as it really is. They may find that in the scheme of things we are not as important as we think we are.

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Sep 29, 2019 08:28:31   #
Fotomacher Loc: Toronto
 
Scruples wrote:
Right now we are steadily approaching the summit. We are at a small plateau in the development of cameras on those thingamabobs. In time, we shall soon see these whatchamacallits rival those name brand beasties. Be patient. There will be a cell phone...Er!...camera in everyone's pocket.

Oh and by the way, the owner's manual for these phones will be 800 plus pages long with 300 pages devoted to the camera feature.


There’s an owners’ manual???

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Sep 29, 2019 08:28:51   #
RickTaylor
 
Camera

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