gvarner wrote:
we have 4/3 cameras (which doesn’t make any sense to me).
4/3... a vulgar fraction ;-)
Mac
Loc: Pittsburgh, Philadelphia now Hernando Co. Fl.
Longshadow wrote:
I call it a phone camera.
I guess he never thought of that.
gvarner wrote:
Why not just call it a 1/3 camera or a 1/3-sensor camera since most of their sensors are about 1/3" in size? After all, we have 4/3 cameras (which doesn’t make any sense to me). Trying to get away from this cellphone or smartphone nonsense. Making a phone call is the least that those devices do.
How about just calling it a camera.
John from gpwmi wrote:
Actually 4/3 does not really refer to the size of the sensor. It is the width to height ratio, in the landscape orientation. The Micro 4/3 sensor is approximately ¼ the area of FF. However, because it is an industry standard it has a unique size as well. My iPhone6 also has a 4/3 aspect ratio, but the sensor is many times smaller due to smaller and fewer pixels. I don't believe there are any industry standards for smartphone sensors, which is probably good with technology changing so rapidly. So maybe for now phone camera is appropriate.
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4/3 IS a video camera tube designation. Before digital, practically all TV had a 4:3 aspect ratio. The 4/3 nomenclature was always about tube diameter, not aspect ratios.
https://youtu.be/m072i-jDSg4
billnikon
Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont
gvarner wrote:
Why not just call it a 1/3 camera or a 1/3-sensor camera since most of their sensors are about 1/3" in size? After all, we have 4/3 cameras (which doesn’t make any sense to me). Trying to get away from this cellphone or smartphone nonsense. Making a phone call is the least that those devices do.
A camera phone is a camera phone and will always be called a camera phone because that is what the phone industry has dubbed it, A CAMERA PHONE.
Because, the camera is in the phone, hence, CAMERA PHONE.
Got it, GOOD. Now, let's move on to the next difficult post.
As far as I'm concerned, camera makers dropped the ball when it came to naming - anything. Where sensors are concerned, the names mean nothing to the average person - or the average photographer. Imagine if a ruler began in inches, switched to mm, then to gimlets, frions, and hooplets. If camera makers had used mm as the standard, they could have named each sensor size based on that. Whatever terminology is accepted for cell phone cameras, it will do nothing to avoid more confusion.
Scruples wrote:
Oh and by the way, the owner's manual for these phones will be 800 plus pages long with 300 pages devoted to the camera feature.
Hundreds of pages of WARNINGS, too, in all-caps.
It's sort of like 5/3 Bank. I've never understood that.
billnikon
Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont
KoniOmegaflex wrote:
It's sort of like 5/3 Bank. I've never understood that.
They take $5.00, and return $3.00 a year later.
billnikon wrote:
A camera phone is a camera phone and will always be called a camera phone because that is what the phone industry has dubbed it, A CAMERA PHONE.
Because, the camera is in the phone, hence, CAMERA PHONE.
Got it, GOOD. Now, let's move on to the next difficult post.
I think the industry calls them smart phones. Apple can still get by with iPhone. In spite of all the hype on photo sites like this, taking photos is not generally the greatest use these devices get. Messaging/texting is #1. Phone calls is 2 or 3. Cameras are below that.
You may see lots of phones taking pictures at tourist attractions and events, but when folks get back on the job Monday morning the camera becomes a communication device. Just look at the drivers in that cars next to you during rush hour. Are they taking pictures? When somebody bumps into you with their shopping cart at the supermarket, are they taking pictures?
Photographers need to get out from behind the viewfinder and see the world as it really is. They may find that in the scheme of things we are not as important as we think we are.
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Scruples wrote:
Right now we are steadily approaching the summit. We are at a small plateau in the development of cameras on those thingamabobs. In time, we shall soon see these whatchamacallits rival those name brand beasties. Be patient. There will be a cell phone...Er!...camera in everyone's pocket.
Oh and by the way, the owner's manual for these phones will be 800 plus pages long with 300 pages devoted to the camera feature.
There’s an owners’ manual???
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