Iso Questions (Page 2): I assume you are shooting JPEG. If so, in your camera's menu you will find a setting for 'High ISO NR'. (Noise Reduction). It is in the section that is outlined...

LFingar Loc: Claverack, NY

Mick 53 wrote:

Hello Friends,
My question is about auto iso settings. In shooting indoors with my Canon 70 D and 60 D with top canon L lenses I have been avoiding flash. I use 160 or higher shutter and around 5.6 aperture in manual. The iso sometimes runs up to 3200 with some noise. In stepping up to another body would I have to go to a full-frame, or a different camera to get the higher iso? Setting suggestions would also be appreciated.
Thanks in advance
Mick

I assume you are shooting JPEG. If so, in your camera's menu you will find a setting for 'High ISO NR'. (Noise Reduction). It is in the section that is outlined in red. The icon is a camera. It is probably set to Standard. Setting it to High may help.

speters Loc: Grangeville/Idaho

Mick 53 wrote:

Hello Friends,
My question is about auto iso settings. In shooting indoors with my Canon 70 D and 60 D with top canon L lenses I have been avoiding flash. I use 160 or higher shutter and around 5.6 aperture in manual. The iso sometimes runs up to 3200 with some noise. In stepping up to another body would I have to go to a full-frame, or a different camera to get the higher iso? Setting suggestions would also be appreciated.
Thanks in advance
Mick

Why are you avoiding flash? With flash you do not have to be concerned about that and the results will be superior as well!

rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA

speters wrote:

Why are you avoiding flash? With flash you do not have to be concerned about that and the results will be superior as well!

That all depends on the situation - if you can use neither bounce nor lots of units, square-distance rule guarantees that things ‘too close’ will be badly over-exposed, ‘too far’ will be very dark, and likely there will be harsh shadows.

Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington

MMC wrote:

Use tripod and increase shutter speed.

Mick 53 wrote:

Thanks

Hopefully, you got that MMC meant to say, use a tripod in order to decrease shutter speed. Doing that would allow you to use a lower ISO. But as someone pointed out, your subjects may not be stationary and a tripod may not be allowed - or even a flash (I'm thinking of museums).

Be sure to take the time to read the two links provided by Chg_Canon. You'll be glad you did!

rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA

Linda From Maine wrote:

Hopefully, you got that MMC meant to say, use a tripod in order to decrease shutter speed. Doing that would allow you to use a lower ISO.

Hopefully, you will come back and read the rest of the suggestions!

I read that as "increase shutter duration" .... going from something like 1/250 to something like 1/15.

Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington

rehess wrote:

I read that as "increase shutter duration" .... going from something like 1/250 to something like 1/15.

Okey-doke, but only if it's "open shutter" duration

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MMC wrote:

Use tripod and increase shutter speed.

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sb Loc: Florida's East Coast

Several full-frame cameras by Canon will let you use your lenses, won't break the bank, and have good low-light capability. The 6D is famous for low-light capability. The new mirrorless EOS RP looks like it has good low-light capability.

See:
https://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-470932-1.html

billnikon Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont

Mick 53 wrote:

Hello Friends,
My question is about auto iso settings. In shooting indoors with my Canon 70 D and 60 D with top canon L lenses I have been avoiding flash. I use 160 or higher shutter and around 5.6 aperture in manual. The iso sometimes runs up to 3200 with some noise. In stepping up to another body would I have to go to a full-frame, or a different camera to get the higher iso? Setting suggestions would also be appreciated.
Thanks in advance
Mick

If the body or lens has VR, you can shoot at a lower shutter speed, if the subjects that you are shooting are not moving fast.

Notorious T.O.D. Loc: Harrisburg, North Carolina

I believe you need to try to determine how high an ISO you might need to use to do the shots you want indoors. Then you can look at your budget and the options to achieve the desired results. Each camera body is a compromise. I have shot at ISO 25,000 indoors with my 1Dx2. But that comes at a price of 20mp, size, $$$ and great lenses. But I also shoot outdoors in bright sun at ISO 800-1250 to enable f/8, 200-400mm and shutter speed above 1/800. It also depends on the desire to print or not and how large. I’m sure you can find a solution to improve your results and get a lot of good ideas here.

Architect1776 Loc: In my mind

yssirk123 wrote:

Check out the high ISO performance on a used Nikon D3 or D3S camera. Built like tanks and with careful shopping you can find a lower shutter count for around $1000. Although only 12MP, I've had no problems with enlargements to 20x30.

Hard to do with Canon lenses.

ggab Loc: ?

Mick 53 wrote:

Hello Friends,
My question is about auto iso settings. In shooting indoors with my Canon 70 D and 60 D with top canon L lenses I have been avoiding flash. I use 160 or higher shutter and around 5.6 aperture in manual. The iso sometimes runs up to 3200 with some noise. In stepping up to another body would I have to go to a full-frame, or a different camera to get the higher iso? Setting suggestions would also be appreciated.
Thanks in advance
Mick

A couple of questions:
1- Which L Lenses
2- Why f/5.6

I gather from the answers given so far that you are restricted from using flash or a tripod for one reason or another.

Using your existing cameras, assuming 1/160 shutter speed is the slowest you can go, your goal is to reduce your ISO setting. Reducing your f/stop to perhaps f/2.8 or f/4 will allow more light through the lens, thus reducing the need to increase your camera's light sensitivity or ISO and the ISO setting will go down.

Generically, full frame will give better high ISO results than crop sensor. "Generically"

billnikon Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont

Architect1776 wrote:

Hard to do with Canon lenses.

You don't get 20X30 prints with canon lenses?

Canisdirus

Not sure your camera has the option, but I set to ISO NR ... and camera takes 12 pics rapid fire..... all the time changing iso ... pieces together the image parts with the least amount of noise .... into one 'much better' image.

Kozan Loc: Trenton Tennessee

Mick 53 wrote:

Hello Friends,
My question is about auto iso settings. In shooting indoors with my Canon 70 D and 60 D with top canon L lenses I have been avoiding flash. I use 160 or higher shutter and around 5.6 aperture in manual. The iso sometimes runs up to 3200 with some noise. In stepping up to another body would I have to go to a full-frame, or a different camera to get the higher iso? Setting suggestions would also be appreciated.
Thanks in advance
Mick

Mick, there is no reason to avoid flash indoors (or out). You can get some very pleasing images by pointing the flash up toward the ceiling. Also, if you must use direct flash, dial down the FLASH exposure compensation 1.5 to 2 stops and most of the time no one will know you are using flash. And learn how to bounce the flash head toward a large white wall, and it will be like magic. Nice soft, even lighting.

I usually use AUTO ISO in manual mode. I don't see noise in images, even at 6400 ISO. But, I am using a Nikon D850.

Happy shooting!