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Sep 11, 2012 12:31:50   #
Greatwebs
 
russelray wrote:
Greatwebs wrote:
Beware: Wolf/Ritz "going out of business" sale. A few things you may not know.

There is usually a liquidation company hired to sell the merchandise and fixtures. Always when a bankruptcy or a large retail company is going out of business. The regular employees and management do not have the expertise to run a going out of business sale properly.

One liquidation company uses signs with red and yellow on a white background. The liquidation company will advertise and announcing the sale and progressively offers higher discounts until everything is sold that can be sold.

Liquidation companies will first close the story for several days to get ready for the sale. They may or may not keep some of the regular employees to work the sale. If they do, then the employee will work and get paid by the liquidation company. Usually they bring in their own employees and their management will always manage the sale.

When the story reopens the merchandise will be marked up by a set amount. When you buy something the discount will be taken off the marked up amount. The liquidation company makes some of their money from the contract they get to conduct the "going out of business sale" and the markup. If the markup is 10% then they make 10% over what the item sells for.

Several factors go into what the markup amount will be. These are generally but not always: The type of merchandise and condition of the merchandise being sold. The geographical location of the retail story. Some areas can demand more markup then others. A store in Beverly Hills would have a higher markup then say a store in Podunk, TX. The liquidation company's contract always includes a time limit on how long the liquidation will take. The sales volume determines the timing and the amount of the discounts given to meet that time limit. The contract also determines the amount of money the liquidation company will need to give the bankruptcy court for creditors or owners if not a bankruptcy. The difference is the profit the liquidation company makes. This prevents the liquidation company from just selling everything at whatever price they want too and pocketing the money.

Liquidation companies want the public to think that the going out of business company is conduction the sale not a specialty company that only does "going out of business" sales.

Going out of business sales work because many people tend to believe that they are getting a good deal because it IS a "going out of business sale" and they are getting a big discount. People tend to buy items that they do not need simply because they think they are getting a good deal. People also assume the company going out of business is conducting the sale when in fact it is a company that specializes in liquidations and makes their money doing these types of sales.

You can generally get some good buys but you need to know what you can buy the items for somewhere else. Realize that the sale is final and you may not even get a warranty from the manufacture so try to test out the item before buying.

Remember. There is no such thing as a free lunch. There are almost always strings attached. It is "Buyer Beware".
Beware: Wolf/Ritz "going out of business"... (show quote)

When Borders went under, Borders employees stayed on until the very end, and they were paid by Borders Group, not the liquidation company. Prices were never marked up, but at the beginning of the liquidation, prices were only marked down 10-40%, depending on the merchandise. During the final four days, prices were marked down "up to 90%" but there really wasn't anything left that anyone other than a garage sale specialist would want.
quote=Greatwebs Beware: Wolf/Ritz "going out... (show quote)


That surprises me but there are exceptions to everything.

The bankruptcy courts normally insist on a liquidation company because employees cost more and normally are terminated before the sale starts. If employees are used they usually have been terminated from the bankrupt company and rehired by the liquidation company at an hourly rate and with no benefits.

It is all about preserving money for the creditors. We live with exceptions. The judge is in control in a bankruptcy and they have wide decision.

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Sep 11, 2012 12:34:57   #
sinatraman Loc: Vero Beach Florida, Earth,alpha quaudrant
 
according to today's popphoto.com news article, ritz has been bought by C+A marketing, the same company that owns the rights to the poloroid name and has been involved in photography businesses for years. They may not close any stores.

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Sep 11, 2012 12:54:47   #
russelray Loc: La Mesa CA
 
Greatwebs wrote:
russelray wrote:
Greatwebs wrote:
Beware: Wolf/Ritz "going out of business" sale. A few things you may not know.

There is usually a liquidation company hired to sell the merchandise and fixtures. Always when a bankruptcy or a large retail company is going out of business. The regular employees and management do not have the expertise to run a going out of business sale properly.

One liquidation company uses signs with red and yellow on a white background. The liquidation company will advertise and announcing the sale and progressively offers higher discounts until everything is sold that can be sold.

Liquidation companies will first close the story for several days to get ready for the sale. They may or may not keep some of the regular employees to work the sale. If they do, then the employee will work and get paid by the liquidation company. Usually they bring in their own employees and their management will always manage the sale.

When the story reopens the merchandise will be marked up by a set amount. When you buy something the discount will be taken off the marked up amount. The liquidation company makes some of their money from the contract they get to conduct the "going out of business sale" and the markup. If the markup is 10% then they make 10% over what the item sells for.

Several factors go into what the markup amount will be. These are generally but not always: The type of merchandise and condition of the merchandise being sold. The geographical location of the retail story. Some areas can demand more markup then others. A store in Beverly Hills would have a higher markup then say a store in Podunk, TX. The liquidation company's contract always includes a time limit on how long the liquidation will take. The sales volume determines the timing and the amount of the discounts given to meet that time limit. The contract also determines the amount of money the liquidation company will need to give the bankruptcy court for creditors or owners if not a bankruptcy. The difference is the profit the liquidation company makes. This prevents the liquidation company from just selling everything at whatever price they want too and pocketing the money.

Liquidation companies want the public to think that the going out of business company is conduction the sale not a specialty company that only does "going out of business" sales.

Going out of business sales work because many people tend to believe that they are getting a good deal because it IS a "going out of business sale" and they are getting a big discount. People tend to buy items that they do not need simply because they think they are getting a good deal. People also assume the company going out of business is conducting the sale when in fact it is a company that specializes in liquidations and makes their money doing these types of sales.

You can generally get some good buys but you need to know what you can buy the items for somewhere else. Realize that the sale is final and you may not even get a warranty from the manufacture so try to test out the item before buying.

Remember. There is no such thing as a free lunch. There are almost always strings attached. It is "Buyer Beware".
Beware: Wolf/Ritz "going out of business"... (show quote)

When Borders went under, Borders employees stayed on until the very end, and they were paid by Borders Group, not the liquidation company. Prices were never marked up, but at the beginning of the liquidation, prices were only marked down 10-40%, depending on the merchandise. During the final four days, prices were marked down "up to 90%" but there really wasn't anything left that anyone other than a garage sale specialist would want.
quote=Greatwebs Beware: Wolf/Ritz "going out... (show quote)


That surprises me but there are exceptions to everything.

The bankruptcy courts normally insist on a liquidation company because employees cost more and normally are terminated before the sale starts. If employees are used they usually have been terminated from the bankrupt company and rehired by the liquidation company at an hourly rate and with no benefits.

It is all about preserving money for the creditors. We live with exceptions. The judge is in control in a bankruptcy and they have wide decision.
quote=russelray quote=Greatwebs Beware: Wolf/Rit... (show quote)

Our benefits at Borders lasted well beyond the final closing. The #1 store, right here in San Diego's Mission Valley, wasn't the final store to close. Five others went a couple of weeks longer, but our benefits didn't end until December 31, 2011, a little more than three months after the final store closed. After that we got COBRA, of course, and unemployment benefits from the Borders account.

We thought the Mission Valley store was going to be bought by a company in Texas, but the creditors ultimately said no. I thought it was interesting that creditors didn't really want to save anything; they just wanted their money as quickly as possible.

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Sep 11, 2012 13:50:46   #
Greatwebs
 
russelray wrote:
Greatwebs wrote:
russelray wrote:
Greatwebs wrote:
Beware: Wolf/Ritz "going out of business" sale. A few things you may not know.

There is usually a liquidation company hired to sell the merchandise and fixtures. Always when a bankruptcy or a large retail company is going out of business. The regular employees and management do not have the expertise to run a going out of business sale properly.

One liquidation company uses signs with red and yellow on a white background. The liquidation company will advertise and announcing the sale and progressively offers higher discounts until everything is sold that can be sold.

Liquidation companies will first close the story for several days to get ready for the sale. They may or may not keep some of the regular employees to work the sale. If they do, then the employee will work and get paid by the liquidation company. Usually they bring in their own employees and their management will always manage the sale.

When the story reopens the merchandise will be marked up by a set amount. When you buy something the discount will be taken off the marked up amount. The liquidation company makes some of their money from the contract they get to conduct the "going out of business sale" and the markup. If the markup is 10% then they make 10% over what the item sells for.

Several factors go into what the markup amount will be. These are generally but not always: The type of merchandise and condition of the merchandise being sold. The geographical location of the retail story. Some areas can demand more markup then others. A store in Beverly Hills would have a higher markup then say a store in Podunk, TX. The liquidation company's contract always includes a time limit on how long the liquidation will take. The sales volume determines the timing and the amount of the discounts given to meet that time limit. The contract also determines the amount of money the liquidation company will need to give the bankruptcy court for creditors or owners if not a bankruptcy. The difference is the profit the liquidation company makes. This prevents the liquidation company from just selling everything at whatever price they want too and pocketing the money.

Liquidation companies want the public to think that the going out of business company is conduction the sale not a specialty company that only does "going out of business" sales.

Going out of business sales work because many people tend to believe that they are getting a good deal because it IS a "going out of business sale" and they are getting a big discount. People tend to buy items that they do not need simply because they think they are getting a good deal. People also assume the company going out of business is conducting the sale when in fact it is a company that specializes in liquidations and makes their money doing these types of sales.

You can generally get some good buys but you need to know what you can buy the items for somewhere else. Realize that the sale is final and you may not even get a warranty from the manufacture so try to test out the item before buying.

Remember. There is no such thing as a free lunch. There are almost always strings attached. It is "Buyer Beware".
Beware: Wolf/Ritz "going out of business"... (show quote)

When Borders went under, Borders employees stayed on until the very end, and they were paid by Borders Group, not the liquidation company. Prices were never marked up, but at the beginning of the liquidation, prices were only marked down 10-40%, depending on the merchandise. During the final four days, prices were marked down "up to 90%" but there really wasn't anything left that anyone other than a garage sale specialist would want.
quote=Greatwebs Beware: Wolf/Ritz "going out... (show quote)


That surprises me but there are exceptions to everything.

The bankruptcy courts normally insist on a liquidation company because employees cost more and normally are terminated before the sale starts. If employees are used they usually have been terminated from the bankrupt company and rehired by the liquidation company at an hourly rate and with no benefits.

It is all about preserving money for the creditors. We live with exceptions. The judge is in control in a bankruptcy and they have wide decision.
quote=russelray quote=Greatwebs Beware: Wolf/Rit... (show quote)

Our benefits at Borders lasted well beyond the final closing. The #1 store, right here in San Diego's Mission Valley, wasn't the final store to close. Five others went a couple of weeks longer, but our benefits didn't end until December 31, 2011, a little more than three months after the final store closed. After that we got COBRA, of course, and unemployment benefits from the Borders account.

We thought the Mission Valley store was going to be bought by a company in Texas, but the creditors ultimately said no. I thought it was interesting that creditors didn't really want to save anything; they just wanted their money as quickly as possible.
quote=Greatwebs quote=russelray quote=Greatwebs... (show quote)


Interesting. Sorry you lost your job.

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Sep 11, 2012 19:18:02   #
russelray Loc: La Mesa CA
 
Greatwebs wrote:
russelray wrote:
Greatwebs wrote:
russelray wrote:
Greatwebs wrote:
Beware: Wolf/Ritz "going out of business" sale. A few things you may not know.

There is usually a liquidation company hired to sell the merchandise and fixtures. Always when a bankruptcy or a large retail company is going out of business. The regular employees and management do not have the expertise to run a going out of business sale properly.

One liquidation company uses signs with red and yellow on a white background. The liquidation company will advertise and announcing the sale and progressively offers higher discounts until everything is sold that can be sold.

Liquidation companies will first close the story for several days to get ready for the sale. They may or may not keep some of the regular employees to work the sale. If they do, then the employee will work and get paid by the liquidation company. Usually they bring in their own employees and their management will always manage the sale.

When the story reopens the merchandise will be marked up by a set amount. When you buy something the discount will be taken off the marked up amount. The liquidation company makes some of their money from the contract they get to conduct the "going out of business sale" and the markup. If the markup is 10% then they make 10% over what the item sells for.

Several factors go into what the markup amount will be. These are generally but not always: The type of merchandise and condition of the merchandise being sold. The geographical location of the retail story. Some areas can demand more markup then others. A store in Beverly Hills would have a higher markup then say a store in Podunk, TX. The liquidation company's contract always includes a time limit on how long the liquidation will take. The sales volume determines the timing and the amount of the discounts given to meet that time limit. The contract also determines the amount of money the liquidation company will need to give the bankruptcy court for creditors or owners if not a bankruptcy. The difference is the profit the liquidation company makes. This prevents the liquidation company from just selling everything at whatever price they want too and pocketing the money.

Liquidation companies want the public to think that the going out of business company is conduction the sale not a specialty company that only does "going out of business" sales.

Going out of business sales work because many people tend to believe that they are getting a good deal because it IS a "going out of business sale" and they are getting a big discount. People tend to buy items that they do not need simply because they think they are getting a good deal. People also assume the company going out of business is conducting the sale when in fact it is a company that specializes in liquidations and makes their money doing these types of sales.

You can generally get some good buys but you need to know what you can buy the items for somewhere else. Realize that the sale is final and you may not even get a warranty from the manufacture so try to test out the item before buying.

Remember. There is no such thing as a free lunch. There are almost always strings attached. It is "Buyer Beware".
Beware: Wolf/Ritz "going out of business"... (show quote)

When Borders went under, Borders employees stayed on until the very end, and they were paid by Borders Group, not the liquidation company. Prices were never marked up, but at the beginning of the liquidation, prices were only marked down 10-40%, depending on the merchandise. During the final four days, prices were marked down "up to 90%" but there really wasn't anything left that anyone other than a garage sale specialist would want.
quote=Greatwebs Beware: Wolf/Ritz "going out... (show quote)


That surprises me but there are exceptions to everything.

The bankruptcy courts normally insist on a liquidation company because employees cost more and normally are terminated before the sale starts. If employees are used they usually have been terminated from the bankrupt company and rehired by the liquidation company at an hourly rate and with no benefits.

It is all about preserving money for the creditors. We live with exceptions. The judge is in control in a bankruptcy and they have wide decision.
quote=russelray quote=Greatwebs Beware: Wolf/Rit... (show quote)

Our benefits at Borders lasted well beyond the final closing. The #1 store, right here in San Diego's Mission Valley, wasn't the final store to close. Five others went a couple of weeks longer, but our benefits didn't end until December 31, 2011, a little more than three months after the final store closed. After that we got COBRA, of course, and unemployment benefits from the Borders account.

We thought the Mission Valley store was going to be bought by a company in Texas, but the creditors ultimately said no. I thought it was interesting that creditors didn't really want to save anything; they just wanted their money as quickly as possible.
quote=Greatwebs quote=russelray quote=Greatwebs... (show quote)


Interesting. Sorry you lost your job.
quote=russelray quote=Greatwebs quote=russelray... (show quote)

I was prepared for it. I saw it coming a couple of years previous. Unfortunately, other people were not.

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Sep 11, 2012 19:26:11   #
Ched49 Loc: Pittsburgh, Pa.
 
I never bought anything from Ritz but there is a Ritz Camera in a Mall where my Wife and I sometimes shop. Whenever I get a chance, I would stop in and look around, each time I did, a kowledgeable, friendly sales person would come up to me and talk about cameras and lenses, never tried to talk me into buying anything.

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Sep 11, 2012 20:57:26   #
JC56 Loc: Lake St.Louis mo.
 
Not that familiar with Wolf/Ritz.....but after reading some of these posts I'm glad I never dealt with them......I live in the St.Louis area and we have Creve Couer Camera...... they are FANTASTIC!!!

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Sep 11, 2012 21:15:23   #
madcapmagishion
 
JC56 wrote:
Not that familiar with Wolf/Ritz.....but after reading some of these posts I'm glad I never dealt with them......I live in the St.Louis area and we have Creve Couer Camera...... they are FANTASTIC!!!


I used to live in Creve Couer and have to agree Creve Couer Camera...... is FANTASTIC!!!

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Sep 12, 2012 05:35:54   #
Festina Lente Loc: Florida & Missouri
 
JC56 wrote:
Not that familiar with Wolf/Ritz.....but after reading some of these posts I'm glad I never dealt with them......I live in the St.Louis area and we have Creve Couer Camera...... they are FANTASTIC!!!

Creve Couer Camera is a very good photographic retailer with full services, training, fair prices and knowledgable employees.

St. Louis also has an first rate professional camera shop - Schiller's (on Manchester). Founded in 1892 and in the same location since 1932, they are a photographic crown jewel in St. Louis whose service and expert staff are rivaled by none.

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Sep 12, 2012 08:25:22   #
Wick Loc: Venice, Florida
 
I think it's great that you have a knowledgible friendly mom and pop type store to go to. If we had that around these parts, I would be a frequent pest. I would even be willing to pay a reasonable premium for goods bought there. But, what I experienced at Wolf/Ritz was just outright greed and almost disdain for the customer, dispite the smiling friendly salespeople. I'm talking strictly pricing policy and return policy. I understand bricks and mortar costs more to operate than online stores. But, customer respect has to accompany the sale both before and especially after. Ritz/Wolf just sealed their own fate by rigid and greedy policy which no well-meaning and hard working employee could overcome. It must have been tough as heck to try to do right by the customer and be stymied by ownership at every turn. I hope the former employees will find work in the field they love and have worked to build a knowledge of. Most of them were very sharp folks who really knew their stuff.

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Sep 12, 2012 08:32:52   #
JC56 Loc: Lake St.Louis mo.
 
Festina Lente wrote:
JC56 wrote:
Not that familiar with Wolf/Ritz.....but after reading some of these posts I'm glad I never dealt with them......I live in the St.Louis area and we have Creve Couer Camera...... they are FANTASTIC!!!

Creve Couer Camera is a very good photographic retailer with full services, training, fair prices and knowledgable employees.

St. Louis also has an first rate professional camera shop - Schiller's (on Manchester). Founded in 1892 and in the same location since 1932, they are a photographic crown jewel in St. Louis whose service and expert staff are rivaled by none.
quote=JC56 Not that familiar with Wolf/Ritz.....b... (show quote)


Never been to Schiller's but I have heard they are very good.........Guess we're lucky to have two good stores.

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Sep 12, 2012 08:36:39   #
Brucej67 Loc: Cary, NC
 
Anyone around the Raleigh North Carolina area know of a good camera store?

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Sep 12, 2012 12:02:59   #
Festina Lente Loc: Florida & Missouri
 
Wick wrote:
I think it's great that you have a knowledgible friendly mom and pop type store to go to. If we had that around these parts, I would be a frequent pest. I would even be willing to pay a reasonable premium for goods bought there. But, what I experienced at Wolf/Ritz was just outright greed and almost disdain for the customer, dispite the smiling friendly salespeople. I'm talking strictly pricing policy and return policy. I understand bricks and mortar costs more to operate than online stores. But, customer respect has to accompany the sale both before and especially after. Ritz/Wolf just sealed their own fate by rigid and greedy policy which no well-meaning and hard working employee could overcome. It must have been tough as heck to try to do right by the customer and be stymied by ownership at every turn. I hope the former employees will find work in the field they love and have worked to build a knowledge of. Most of them were very sharp folks who really knew their stuff.
I think it's great that you have a knowledgible fr... (show quote)

Yes, we are lucky in St. Louis. Schiller's has become more than a "Mom & Pop" business, although it is till run by the Schiller family. Their prices are in line with B&H on most items and they carry a lot of high end camera and video equipment.

Ritz/Wolf also sealed their fate by buying cheap junk from overseas, adding a private label, and pawning it off on its innocent customers as quality components. That is unforgivable, even if many of their customers never realized the outlandish mark-up they paid for two-but junk.

Again, good riddance! Photographers are far better off without them.

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Sep 20, 2012 00:46:23   #
Heather Anne Loc: Moncks Corner Sc
 
We had two ritz camera stores in the area, one closed down and I got packages of fuji photo paper, a really good weight and gloss, usually it ran around $30 a package, I got them for $5 a package of 100 sheets like that, I print my own pictures for scrapbooking and for crafts and gifts so finding really good paper was great, I got 10 packages of the paper, really good deal in my book, so if you need stuff like that might be a good deal to go in. I haven't heard anything about the other one but now that I have heard this will have to see if they are closing yet and see if I can get more paper. Can always use it.

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Sep 20, 2012 01:42:07   #
rcirr Loc: Gilbert, Arizona
 
If they were bought by Bain...they would have a chance to survive and maybe even prosper!

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