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Sep 14, 2019 15:43:13   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
jcboy3 wrote:
I don't care for Islam. I don't care for religion at all, but I especially don't care for Islam. So don't get confused.


Not confused at all. I was in agreement with you and have definite feelings about so called organized religion today in general.

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Sep 14, 2019 15:58:15   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
boberic wrote:
Last night at the democrat debate, Beto said he would take AR-15's as well as AK-47's away from those who ha Fve them. Several problems with such a program. first-- beto doesn't know that "no Body owns an AK-47 in the first place. It's a fully automatic rifle that requires an FBI permit to own.. Second the ASR-15 is nothing more than a semi-auto weapon, of which there are many others. Third- if the government has the right to sieze one kind of weapon, they can easily take ALL weapons away from the public.Fourth- Beto's statement proves he knows nothing about th 2nd amendment.
Last night at the democrat debate, Beto said he wo... (show quote)


This happens every day (See link) with no coverage. Not always is a shot is fired as frequently the democrat criminal sh**ts their pants and surrenders when faced with superior intelligence and firepower.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8rxpgHl_Pg4&feature=youtu.be&fbclid=IwAR0woTKb-jPnbqlNR5i_9PLI9HzA9qsl9eodBf3fL-lHhgArmfgY7MLCup0

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Sep 14, 2019 16:08:33   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
boberic wrote:
Last night at the democrat debate, Beto said he would take AR-15's as well as AK-47's away from those who ha Fve them. Several problems with such a program. first-- beto doesn't know that "no Body owns an AK-47 in the first place. It's a fully automatic rifle that requires an FBI permit to own.. Second the ASR-15 is nothing more than a semi-auto weapon, of which there are many others. Third- if the government has the right to sieze one kind of weapon, they can easily take ALL weapons away from the public.Fourth- Beto's statement proves he knows nothing about th 2nd amendment.
Last night at the democrat debate, Beto said he wo... (show quote)


And the officers who arrested him still say that he was trying to flee. That the fake news is lying and allowing Beto to change what happened with his lies.
Who do you believe the word of 2 police officers or a drunken piece of democrat garbage. Reminds me of a murdering democrat piece of garbage, Ted Kennedy.


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Sep 14, 2019 16:20:26   #
Angmo
 
bull drink water wrote:
so, how many gun owners belong to the national guard in their state?


Read it again. This time with comprehension of the English language.

Common core is common ignorance.

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Sep 14, 2019 16:30:39   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
Angmo wrote:
Read it again. This time with comprehension of the English language.

Common core is common ignorance.


That is the stupidity of libs.
They cannot comprehend English. They have NEVER studied the writings of the founders and their thoughts on these precepts that formed what we now know as the Constitution and the 1st 10 amendments.
All they know are DNC and fake news talking points. The Militia question was answered decades ago but they are so ignorant and gullible as to never have learned it.
They do not want the truth they want utter destruction of the United States of America.

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Sep 14, 2019 16:35:06   #
BigBear Loc: Northern CT
 
Architect1776 wrote:
That is the stupidity of libs.
They cannot comprehend English. They have NEVER studied the writings of the founders and their thoughts on these precepts that formed what we now know as the Constitution and the 1st 10 amendments.
All they know are DNC and fake news talking points. The Militia question was answered decades ago but they are so ignorant and gullible as to never have learned it.
They do not want the truth they want utter destruction of the United States of America.


That is the very reason we were put in place as defense.

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Sep 14, 2019 16:52:40   #
Wrangler Loc: North Texas
 
bull drink water wrote:
so, how many gun owners belong to the national guard in their state?


I have no idea of National Guard numbers. If they are called up, they will be issued a weapon.

National Guard is not a militia.

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Sep 14, 2019 17:19:38   #
BigBear Loc: Northern CT
 
Wrangler wrote:
I have no idea of National Guard numbers. If they are called up, they will be issued a weapon.

National Guard is not a militia.


https://constitution.org/mil/cs_milit.htm

The meaning of "militia"

The word "militia" is a Latin abstract noun, meaning "military service", not an "armed group" (with the connotation of plurality), and that is the way the Latin-literate Founders used it. The collective term, meaning "army" or "soldiery" was "volgus militum". Since for the Romans "military service" included law enforcement and disaster response, it might be more meaningfully translated today as "defense service", associated with a "defense duty", which attaches to individuals as much as to groups of them, organized or otherwise.

When we are alone, we are all militia units of one. When together with others in a situation requiring a defensive response, we have the duty to act together in concert to meet the challenge. Those two component duties, of individuals to defend the community, and to act together in concert with others present, when combined with a third component duty to prepare to do one's duty and not just wait until the danger is clear and present, comprises the militia duty.

Real courage is found, not in the willingness to risk death, but in the willingness to stand, alone if necessary, against the ignorant and disapproving herd. — Jon Roland, 1976

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Sep 14, 2019 17:44:09   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
BigBear wrote:
https://constitution.org/mil/cs_milit.htm

The meaning of "militia"

The word "militia" is a Latin abstract noun, meaning "military service", not an "armed group" (with the connotation of plurality), and that is the way the Latin-literate Founders used it. The collective term, meaning "army" or "soldiery" was "volgus militum". Since for the Romans "military service" included law enforcement and disaster response, it might be more meaningfully translated today as "defense service", associated with a "defense duty", which attaches to individuals as much as to groups of them, organized or otherwise.

When we are alone, we are all militia units of one. When together with others in a situation requiring a defensive response, we have the duty to act together in concert to meet the challenge. Those two component duties, of individuals to defend the community, and to act together in concert with others present, when combined with a third component duty to prepare to do one's duty and not just wait until the danger is clear and present, comprises the militia duty.

Real courage is found, not in the willingness to risk death, but in the willingness to stand, alone if necessary, against the ignorant and disapproving herd. — Jon Roland, 1976
https://constitution.org/mil/cs_milit.htm br br T... (show quote)


We took this motto seriously .
A Cherokee word possibly meaning "stand alone", "Currahee", the motto of the 506th Infantry Regiment, a unit of the 101st Airborne Division.
Look at my picture.

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Sep 14, 2019 19:14:45   #
FrumCA
 
Angmo wrote:
HE doesn’t know how commas work in the English language.

Yes. That is very obvious.

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Sep 15, 2019 00:16:04   #
Harry0 Loc: Gardena, Cal
 
Architect1776 wrote:
The government can not round up 21 illegal alien slime in this country. Can not find them even.
Yet they think that they can steal 30 million AR15s from angry Patriots?


Are tthose "angry Patriots" law abiding citizens?
Are those guns registered? Yes they can.
Rubber stamp a slew of warrants. They pick you up away from your house. Like your work.
They will toss and trash your house until they find any and every thing.
Bail is set in 2 days. Arraignment in 2 weeks.
Win, lose or draw- you ain't getting any thing back.
All it takes is yet another "Executive Order": Militia = Army, cops and Feds.

BTW, they didn't want to pick up any illegals. That's why the hand picked hand wringers were there as journalists. A big bunch of money, smoke and mirrors was used to show the futility and unfairness.
If the Cheeto-Dusted Bloviator was actually serious there's be a constant conveyer to the border.

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Sep 15, 2019 00:21:34   #
Screamin Scott Loc: Marshfield Wi, Baltimore Md, now Dallas Ga
 
Harry0 wrote:
Are tthose "angry Patriots" law abiding citizens?
Are those guns registered? Yes they can.
Rubber stamp a slew of warrants. They pick you up away from your house. Like your work.
They will toss and trash your house until they find any and every thing.
Bail is set in 2 days. Arraignment in 2 weeks.
Win, lose or draw- you ain't getting any thing back.
All it takes is yet another "Executive Order": Militia = Army, cops and Feds.

BTW, they didn't want to pick up any illegals. That's why the hand picked hand wringers were there as journalists. A big bunch of money, smoke and mirrors was used to show the futility and unfairness.
If the Cheeto-Dusted Bloviator was actually serious there's be a constant conveyer to the border.
Are tthose "angry Patriots" law abiding ... (show quote)


Boy are you misinformed.

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Sep 15, 2019 00:48:07   #
BigBear Loc: Northern CT
 
Screamin Scott wrote:
Boy are you misinformed.


That is understating his issue.

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Sep 15, 2019 01:28:31   #
Harry0 Loc: Gardena, Cal
 
Yeah yeah whatever. It happens out here in the real world.
You WILL be overcome. Protest all you want.
Swarmed and choked- you WILL comply. And probably cry.
"And when they came for me ..."

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Sep 15, 2019 07:02:48   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
Harry0 wrote:
Are tthose "angry Patriots" law abiding citizens?
Are those guns registered? Yes they can.
Rubber stamp a slew of warrants. They pick you up away from your house. Like your work.
They will toss and trash your house until they find any and every thing.
Bail is set in 2 days. Arraignment in 2 weeks.
Win, lose or draw- you ain't getting any thing back.
All it takes is yet another "Executive Order": Militia = Army, cops and Feds.

BTW, they didn't want to pick up any illegals. That's why the hand picked hand wringers were there as journalists. A big bunch of money, smoke and mirrors was used to show the futility and unfairness.
If the Cheeto-Dusted Bloviator was actually serious there's be a constant conveyer to the border.
Are tthose "angry Patriots" law abiding ... (show quote)


So firearm owners are not law abiding citizens?
Warrants? Logistically how do you get across all the country that many officers and military to disobey the Constitution?
You did not serve, any order that is not lawful a soldier is obliged to not obey and if it is contrary to the Constitution then he will not obey it and that includes an order from even the commander in chief.
Police and federal law enforcement would most likely have sworn to defend the Constitution as well.
I would guess you are dreaming as an anti American your ideal world of no Constitution like Nazi Germany where the military and law enforcement swore an oath to do as the Fuehrer commanded.
We fortunately this is still America and so far a Constitution exists, though diminished by libs, and it over rides any president, congress and court. Read the writings of Jefferson who authored the document.
So you lame argument is so full of holes it makes a colander look water tight.

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