DEBJENROB Loc: DELRAY BEACH FL

I was at Fort Monmouth in 1962 and then Korea .... when were you at Monmouth and where were you in Korea .... I was at Camp Kaiser with the 7th Division ...

steve03 Loc: long Lsland

I too was drafted and served 18 months in Korea. I had a twin brother who served in Nam. I am now 67 yrs. old and this president did a great job with the VA. this reason enough to show that he is a loyal american. the VA has done a great job for us vets

Dogman Loc: Michigan

[Deb, we are not discussing how well they did as POTUS. Funny how this string started out as a Draft post. Go figure. :lol:

Dogman[/quote]

What has happened to this thread is symtomatic as to the problems we face as a nation ..... yes it started out as a conversation about military service ... then on page one LarryR, who is not a progressive by any means, introduced Bill Clinton to the thread .... from that point on the thread lost all focus and perspective ..... I would speculate that if I wrote that yesterday the weather report called for a sunny day but it was now raining ... some nut job from the right would blame President Obama and his socialists friends for weather control .... for some reason, no matter what the discussion is about, some regulars to these threads manage to bring in Clinton, Obama, Democrats or liberals ..... we cultivate the seeds to our own distruction .....[/quote]

So true Deb. Seldom do the post stay on target since I have been a member here on UHH, which has not been very long.

Remember, it may be sunny where you are but it will be raining somewhere and one of us will point that out!

Our exchange has been civil and I do appreciate that.

By for now.

Dogman

Max Kurz Loc: Newark, De

Yes I did and stayed in for over 7 years during the Nam years !

Zophman Loc: Northwest

I don't know about the rest of you, but I always learn (sometimes confirm)how the rest of the world tends to think. Sometimes I agree and sometimes I don't. And, sometimes I change my opinion... but only after I verify the information presented. We have a tough choice to make and I believe each individual needs to seek objective information so they can make the best choice for themselves. Radical opinion is provocative in the least.

Scoutman Loc: Orlando, FL

I haven't seen the links where the president has "promised" this. Please post the links.

That being said:

What is a socialist society, factually, and why is it bad? Are they all bad? Is Canada a socialist society, in that it has universal health care as do most European nations? Canada also runs some airlines, national railroad, banks too. I've lived in Canada, and found the health care excellent in comparison to the our system. Even though, MD Anderson for me, has been a virtual life-saver.

Couldn't it be true that Socialist country no. 1, might be different that Socialist country no. 2, etc. etc. etc. Some good, some fair, some bad, depending on the administration of government during the period under review.

Bill Emmett Loc: Bow, New Hampshire

I would like to add my view on both candidates lack of military service. I was in the Navy during the Vietnam era, and after.

I worked, and retired from the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers, in New Orleans. As a civilian employee, with a military background, I found the civilians working there who do not have a military background do not have any sense of "mission". The employees who have been in the military always refer to the "mission" to be accomplished, and the steps to success. The non military employees minds seem to wander, and manifest, and dwell on nonessenual parts of the mission. This causes excess time, and possible loss of mission defination. I think both, Romney, and Obama, have this problem. Obama, being the President, is hesitant to make a move, but after time does move. Romney, does not have any experience as President, but shows alot wishy washy demeanor, and wants to change everything. Romney, does not bring any plan to the table for meeting his mission goals. He just comes up with a "final soulutions" but no plan on how to accomplish them.

ted45 Loc: Delaware

I don't get your point. I inserted the dictionary definition.

Scoutman Loc: Orlando, FL

Nice try Deb, but we are all sinners.

Dogman[/quote]

And everyone lies, too. Sorry, no data to cite to support this, but I'm sure it is out there.

bvm Loc: Glendale, Arizona

He who is without sin should cast the first stone ....[/quote]

Weren't they relatives or was it Jerry Lee Lewis?

Screamin Scott Loc: Marshfield Wi, Baltimore Md, now Dallas Ga

Which is to say you that are stupid because you cannot think logically

BW326 Loc: Boynton Beach, Florida

The VA medical help has been literally 'life saving' for many of us and they treat everyone with a great deal of respect. The VA Compensation Board has a lot of problems (current backlog of claims is at 900,000 and growing) but that is due to a number of issues, many beyond their control.

bvm Loc: Glendale, Arizona

He who is without sin should cast the first stone ....[/quote]

Hunter Lou 1947 Loc: Minnesota

Very well put. Yes, you do get a sense on how to develope the mission when serving in the military. It's all part of everyday life as a military person. That is why I believe that every youth after graduating from highschool should be required to serve at least two years in the military. For this service they should be given a monetary reward to use for higher education purposes either college or vocational school. If they don't use the award say by a certain time period then it gets put into a non-refundable IRA or something to be used only when they reach a certain age or to buy a home mortage after a certain age. But I know that is a very long way off unless we have politicians who have the guts to bring up such ideas as this and get a discussion going. But, I know the Tea Party will only want to foster a destruction of our political process in attempting to get constitutional changes of a ratical sense.

Mac Loc: Pittsburgh, Philadelphia now Hernando Co. Fl.

I agree Steve
I use the VA Health Care System almost exclusively, and I think it's great. I certainly don't have to wait anywhere near as long past my appointment time to see the doctor as I've had to in the past with private practice doctors. And Obama has just signed a directive ordering the VA to hire 16,000 more mental health professionals. As you say, they do take good care of us.