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Sep 11, 2019 10:20:13   #
Wrangler Loc: North Texas
 
Rongnongno wrote:
Funny that you folks are not reading the title then the content....

VALOR vs LONGEVITY.

As typed, I know many great veterans of all ages. I also know some folks who are veterans but complete assholes (to be polite). They get 'recognition because they are old, not because of their valor.

THAT is what I question. Longevity IS NOT a show of valor yet this how you all react, bowing to the generic meaningless 'Thank you for your services'.


I came back to the world in 1967. We flew Air Force from Japan to Travis and then took a commercial flight to LAX. When I got off the plane and walked into the terminal a hippy girl spat on my chest. That wasn’t a very nice welcome home.

Last week I was putting gas in my car while wearing a Vietnam Vet hat. Three little girls ran up and said “Thank you for your service.” The youngest, about 4 or 5 years old said, “Thank you for being a veterinarian.”

I’m sure that their parents taught them and the youngest didn’t quite get it right. I simply answered, “Thank you for mentioning that. It means a lot.”

A thank you is not “generic meaningless”.

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Sep 11, 2019 11:10:26   #
yhtomit Loc: Port Land. Oregon
 
Rongnongno wrote:
Funny that you folks are not reading the title then the content....

VALOR vs LONGEVITY.

As typed, I know many great veterans of all ages. I also know some folks who are veterans but complete assholes (to be polite). They get 'recognition because they are old, not because of their valor.

THAT is what I question. Longevity IS NOT a show of valor yet this how you all react, bowing to the generic meaningless 'Thank you for your services'.


You were never taught to respect your elders...?

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Sep 11, 2019 11:16:28   #
Elaine2025 Loc: Seattle, Wa
 
Wrangler wrote:
I came back to the world in 1967. We flew Air Force from Japan to Travis and then took a commercial flight to LAX. When I got off the plane and walked into the terminal a hippy girl spat on my chest. That wasn’t a very nice welcome home.

Last week I was putting gas in my car while wearing a Vietnam Vet hat. Three little girls ran up and said “Thank you for your service.” The youngest, about 4 or 5 years old said, “Thank you for being a veterinarian.”

I’m sure that their parents taught them and the youngest didn’t quite get it right. I simply answered, “Thank you for mentioning that. It means a lot.”

A thank you is not “generic meaningless”.
I came back to the world in 1967. We flew Air Forc... (show quote)


That is awesome and so cute!

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Sep 11, 2019 11:19:05   #
Elaine2025 Loc: Seattle, Wa
 
Wrangler wrote:
I came back to the world in 1967. We flew Air Force from Japan to Travis and then took a commercial flight to LAX. When I got off the plane and walked into the terminal a hippy girl spat on my chest. That wasn’t a very nice welcome home.

Last week I was putting gas in my car while wearing a Vietnam Vet hat. Three little girls ran up and said “Thank you for your service.” The youngest, about 4 or 5 years old said, “Thank you for being a veterinarian.”

I’m sure that their parents taught them and the youngest didn’t quite get it right. I simply answered, “Thank you for mentioning that. It means a lot.”

A thank you is not “generic meaningless”.
I came back to the world in 1967. We flew Air Forc... (show quote)


Just wanted to mention my husband and I were traveling and stopped at this place for breakfast and he was wearing his Viet Nam hat. When we went to pay for it, it had already been paid for by people who left the restaurant and the waitress said, "he said to tell you thank you for your service". This has happened to us 3 or 4 times.

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Sep 11, 2019 11:35:33   #
Wrangler Loc: North Texas
 
Elaine2025 wrote:
Just wanted to mention my husband and I were traveling and stopped at this place for breakfast and he was wearing his Viet Nam hat. When we went to pay for it, it had already been paid for by people who left the restaurant and the waitress said, "he said to tell you thank you for your service". This has happened to us 3 or 4 times.


Please tell your husband that I said WELCOME HOME.

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Sep 11, 2019 11:49:26   #
Elaine2025 Loc: Seattle, Wa
 
Wrangler wrote:
Please tell your husband that I said WELCOME HOME.


Thank you, that is very kind of you.

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Sep 11, 2019 16:51:10   #
jcboy3
 
Elaine2025 wrote:
Thank you, will you come over to my place?

Eechh.

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Sep 11, 2019 16:59:17   #
Elaine2025 Loc: Seattle, Wa
 
jcboy3 wrote:
Elaine2025 wrote:
Thank you, will you come over to my place?

Eechh.


Submitted to Mr Admin for you.

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Sep 11, 2019 17:05:17   #
Elaine2025 Loc: Seattle, Wa
 
jcboy3 wrote:
Elaine2025 wrote:
I submitted to Mr Admin, and it was GOOD.

109


Submitted to admin.

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Sep 11, 2019 17:06:11   #
jcboy3
 
Elaine2025 wrote:
Submitted to admin.


I love a submissive.

110

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Sep 11, 2019 17:26:50   #
pendennis
 
WWII was fought largely by conscripts. However, once drafted into the service (Army, Navy Marine Corps, Coast Guard), they made the best of things, only wanting to get the war over and get back to civilian life. Volunteers overall were the exception, not the rule.

The paratroopers were another story, however. They were all volunteers, even after being drafted; jumping from a usually perfectly good airplane into what a lot of folks thought would be certain death. In fact airborne casualties were at 30% during the war, as compared to around 10% for the other troops.

The depiction of paratroopers in the miniseries "Band of Brothers" did manage to recreate some of the peril. The operative word here is "some". I've talked to a number of 82nd and 101st A/B division WWII vets, and the special effects weren't nearly as frightening as the real FLAK, 40mm, 20mm, and MG fire.

That a volunteer lived until he was 96 is an attribute to his luck, especially after a second jump, and the life he led after the war ended. He was a hero in every sense.

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Sep 11, 2019 17:29:21   #
jcboy3
 
pendennis wrote:
WWII was fought largely by conscripts. However, once drafted into the service (Army, Navy Marine Corps, Coast Guard), they made the best of things, only wanting to get the war over and get back to civilian life. Volunteers overall were the exception, not the rule.

The paratroopers were another story, however. They were all volunteers, even after being drafted; jumping from a usually perfectly good airplane into what a lot of folks thought would be certain death. In fact airborne casualties were at 30% during the war, as compared to around 10% for the other troops.

The depiction of paratroopers in the miniseries "Band of Brothers" did manage to recreate some of the peril. The operative word here is "some". I've talked to a number of 82nd and 101st A/B division WWII vets, and the special effects weren't nearly as frightening as the real FLAK, 40mm, 20mm, and MG fire.

That a volunteer lived until he was 96 is an attribute to his luck, especially after a second jump, and the life he led after the war ended. He was a hero in every sense.
WWII was fought largely by conscripts. However, o... (show quote)


This is a good source for statistics:

https://www.nationalww2museum.org/students-teachers/student-resources/research-starters/research-starters-us-military-numbers

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Sep 11, 2019 19:19:44   #
Rongnongno Loc: FL
 
So far NOT ONE of you realize what this thread is about.

It is not about respect or lack of it.

It is about creating an 'aura' around a person just because this person is getting old.

Longevity does not equal to valor. It does not add to it either.

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Sep 11, 2019 19:34:04   #
Kmgw9v Loc: Miami, Florida
 
Rongnongno wrote:
So far NOT ONE of you realize what this thread is about.

It is not about respect or lack of it.

It is about creating an 'aura' around a person just because this person is getting old.

Longevity does not equal to valor. It does not add to it either.


If “NOT ONE” of the posters realize what your thread is about; perhaps you should work on your writing/communication skills. To begin, try to write simply, in plain English, without all the arrogance and confusing condescendence.

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Sep 11, 2019 20:07:29   #
papakatz45 Loc: South Florida-West Palm Beach
 
Kmgw9v wrote:
If “NOT ONE” of the posters realize what your thread is about; perhaps you should work on your writing/communication skills. To begin, try to write simply, in plain English, without all the arrogance and confusing condescendence.


Well said. He doesn't seem to think he could be the problem.

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