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Sep 11, 2012 09:20:17   #
DEBJENROB Loc: DELRAY BEACH FL
 
BW326 wrote:
charlie wrote:
steve03 wrote:
I keep hearing Obama is moving us to socialism. Can someone explain why they think this is true or are they just repeating talking points from Fox.


Try this on for size.

http://keywiki.org/index.php/Barack_Obama_and_Democratic_Socialists_of_America


As I read down through the article, this seems to be the 'damming evidence' that was uncovered...
"Barack Obama made sure that the thousands of Latinos in Chicago were registered to vote. He helped empower the Latino community and ensure that we were full participants in our democracy. "

Whoa! And he thought he could get away with that? Helping under-represented minorities participate in the Democratic process.
quote=charlie quote=steve03 I keep hearing Obama... (show quote)


BW326 ....the people your are "debating" with do not believe in the First Amendment nor do the believe in democracy ... they are the same type of people that Ben Franklin warned against ... they would sacrifice liberty for security and they deserve neither .... they believe in the freedom of expression only for people who agree with them ... they are in fact the true danger to a democracy ....

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Sep 11, 2012 09:22:35   #
Screamin Scott Loc: Marshfield Wi, Baltimore Md, now Dallas Ga
 
Can't help but wonder how many were undocumented?

BW326 wrote:
charlie wrote:
steve03 wrote:
I keep hearing Obama is moving us to socialism. Can someone explain why they think this is true or are they just repeating talking points from Fox.


Try this on for size.

http://keywiki.org/index.php/Barack_Obama_and_Democratic_Socialists_of_America


As I read down through the article, this seems to be the 'damming evidence' that was uncovered...
"Barack Obama made sure that the thousands of Latinos in Chicago were registered to vote. He helped empower the Latino community and ensure that we were full participants in our democracy. "

Whoa! And he thought he could get away with that? Helping under-represented minorities participate in the Democratic process.
quote=charlie quote=steve03 I keep hearing Obama... (show quote)

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Sep 11, 2012 09:27:59   #
BW326 Loc: Boynton Beach, Florida
 
Screamin Scott wrote:
Can't help but wonder how many were undocumented?

Damn! That's what my wife just said too (she's a Repub). It's like James Carville and Mary Matalin around this house.

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Sep 11, 2012 09:29:32   #
Mac Loc: Pittsburgh, Philadelphia now Hernando Co. Fl.
 
LARRYR. wrote:
BW326 wrote:
Right off let me declare that I am an 'Obama man, 100%'.
That being stated, let me tell you what my opinion is of Mitt Romney, given the character of the man as I have seen him so far.

If Mitt had had a low number and was likely to be drafted, I believe he would have done what a lot of people did, talk to their father and get his opinion. And I also think his dad would have said, "Mitt, you just need to accept it and jump in with both feet" and I think he probably would have volunteered, gone on and done his duty and would be running on his war record now instead of his Bain Capitol record.
Right off let me declare that I am an 'Obama man, ... (show quote)


OR he could have taken the other way out like good ole
BILLY boy what's his name, you know ,ya the one that
disgrace the OVAL OFFICE .
quote=BW326 Right off let me declare that I am an... (show quote)


Or he could have used his fathers/grandfathers influence to get into the guard/ reserve like Dan Quayle and George W. Bush.

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Sep 11, 2012 09:30:34   #
DEBJENROB Loc: DELRAY BEACH FL
 
Screamin Scott wrote:
Can't help but wonder how many were undocumented?

BW326 wrote:
charlie wrote:
steve03 wrote:
I keep hearing Obama is moving us to socialism. Can someone explain why they think this is true or are they just repeating talking points from Fox.


Try this on for size.

http://keywiki.org/index.php/Barack_Obama_and_Democratic_Socialists_of_America


As I read down through the article, this seems to be the 'damming evidence' that was uncovered...
"Barack Obama made sure that the thousands of Latinos in Chicago were registered to vote. He helped empower the Latino community and ensure that we were full participants in our democracy. "

Whoa! And he thought he could get away with that? Helping under-represented minorities participate in the Democratic process.
quote=charlie quote=steve03 I keep hearing Obama... (show quote)
Can't help but wonder how many were undocumented? ... (show quote)


It is unlikely that any were undocumented .... and as for undocumented .... these undocumented workers actually support our lifestyle ... the same way the Chinese do by buying our Bonds ... it is mostly the undocumented that cut our grass, clean our homes, work in our restuarants, build our houses .... and the work hard and cheap ... because the work cheap many of the things we take for granted, we could not afford .... and another thing about undocumented workers .... they spend money .... rebember Ross Perot "sucking sound" ... what do you think would happen in this country if we suddenly lost 12 million consumers .... remember .. they spend and that creates jobs ...

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Sep 11, 2012 09:31:26   #
steve03 Loc: long Lsland
 
Keywike is a right wing sight that lets anybody to say anything and does not always disclose the author. It is not a sight with any authority. Believe it if you must. but that does not make it true. When you read this I bet you don't fact check what you want to believe,

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Sep 11, 2012 09:32:42   #
charlie Loc: Minneapolis, Minnesota
 
BW326 wrote:
charlie wrote:
steve03 wrote:
I keep hearing Obama is moving us to socialism. Can someone explain why they think this is true or are they just repeating talking points from Fox.


Try this on for size.

http://keywiki.org/index.php/Barack_Obama_and_Democratic_Socialists_of_America


As I read down through the article, this seems to be the 'damming evidence' that was uncovered...
"Barack Obama made sure that the thousands of Latinos in Chicago were registered to vote. He helped empower the Latino community and ensure that we were full participants in our democracy. "

Whoa! And he thought he could get away with that? Helping under-represented minorities participate in the Democratic process.
quote=charlie quote=steve03 I keep hearing Obama... (show quote)


And this discounts his march to socialism HOW???????

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Sep 11, 2012 09:35:20   #
DEBJENROB Loc: DELRAY BEACH FL
 
charlie wrote:
BW326 wrote:
charlie wrote:
steve03 wrote:
I keep hearing Obama is moving us to socialism. Can someone explain why they think this is true or are they just repeating talking points from Fox.


Try this on for size.

http://keywiki.org/index.php/Barack_Obama_and_Democratic_Socialists_of_America


As I read down through the article, this seems to be the 'damming evidence' that was uncovered...
"Barack Obama made sure that the thousands of Latinos in Chicago were registered to vote. He helped empower the Latino community and ensure that we were full participants in our democracy. "

Whoa! And he thought he could get away with that? Helping under-represented minorities participate in the Democratic process.
quote=charlie quote=steve03 I keep hearing Obama... (show quote)


And this discounts his march to socialism HOW???????
quote=BW326 quote=charlie quote=steve03 I keep ... (show quote)


You don't think Social Security and Medicare is socialism .... how about product safety laws and consumer protection laws... not socialism ....????

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Sep 11, 2012 09:36:25   #
Mac Loc: Pittsburgh, Philadelphia now Hernando Co. Fl.
 
Zophman wrote:
My research indicates Mitt Romney had a draft number of 300 and in the year he was eligible for the draft only those with draft numbers less than 196 were actually drafted. The point about his service is moot. He would not have been drafted. Should he have volunteered? Maybe, but did you?


You do not need to be drafted to do military service for your country. You can join up.

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Sep 11, 2012 09:43:49   #
Dogman Loc: Michigan
 
Only in the mind of the few did he disgrace the office ..... look at the record ... for the 20th Century ... the country was in its best condition ... can you come up with a better period in the 20th.... we were all better off with Clinton ....[/quote]

I see. So if one's morals are in the gutter and as long as he/she performs to your expectations then it's okay? Clinton was and is a disgrace to the office of the President of the United States, regardless of the state of the Union.

Dogman

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Sep 11, 2012 09:49:59   #
ceallachain Loc: Cape May, NJ
 
What Bill and Monica did was consensual. Both were of age. No jail time. While under oath he did indeed tell the truth. It was before going under oath that he was telling another story. No perjury so long as your not under oath.

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Sep 11, 2012 09:55:24   #
Screamin Scott Loc: Marshfield Wi, Baltimore Md, now Dallas Ga
 
They also send lots of money back to their families in whatever country they came from instead of spending here in this country. Plus they live with multiple "families" in the same household and get their medical services from emergency rooms (which we wind up paying ) & they also use our public schools for their children (on our dime again what with the free lunch programs as well)...Double edged sword.

DEBJENROB wrote:
Screamin Scott wrote:
Can't help but wonder how many were undocumented?

BW326 wrote:
charlie wrote:
steve03 wrote:
I keep hearing Obama is moving us to socialism. Can someone explain why they think this is true or are they just repeating talking points from Fox.


Try this on for size.

http://keywiki.org/index.php/Barack_Obama_and_Democratic_Socialists_of_America


As I read down through the article, this seems to be the 'damming evidence' that was uncovered...
"Barack Obama made sure that the thousands of Latinos in Chicago were registered to vote. He helped empower the Latino community and ensure that we were full participants in our democracy. "

Whoa! And he thought he could get away with that? Helping under-represented minorities participate in the Democratic process.
quote=charlie quote=steve03 I keep hearing Obama... (show quote)
Can't help but wonder how many were undocumented? ... (show quote)


It is unlikely that any were undocumented .... and as for undocumented .... these undocumented workers actually support our lifestyle ... the same way the Chinese do by buying our Bonds ... it is mostly the undocumented that cut our grass, clean our homes, work in our restuarants, build our houses .... and the work hard and cheap ... because the work cheap many of the things we take for granted, we could not afford .... and another thing about undocumented workers .... they spend money .... rebember Ross Perot "sucking sound" ... what do you think would happen in this country if we suddenly lost 12 million consumers .... remember .. they spend and that creates jobs ...
quote=Screamin Scott Can't help but wonder how ma... (show quote)

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Sep 11, 2012 09:56:42   #
Zophman Loc: Northwest
 
Let me get this straight....moral character is not a prerequisite for the leader of the free world? It's all about results? I think I read about the guy in Germany who had brought results for his country in the 30's. ....

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Sep 11, 2012 09:57:17   #
Dogman Loc: Michigan
 
ceallachain wrote:
What Bill and Monica did was consensual. Both were of age. No jail time. While under oath he did indeed tell the truth. It was before going under oath that he was telling another story. No perjury so long as your not under oath.


So being married has nothing to do with it? Again a moral issue, consensual or not. A lie is a lie. Under oath it becomes perjury. The difference of course is perjury could result in confinement.

Dogman

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Sep 11, 2012 09:58:20   #
DEBJENROB Loc: DELRAY BEACH FL
 
Dogman wrote:
Only in the mind of the few did he disgrace the office ..... look at the record ... for the 20th Century ... the country was in its best condition ... can you come up with a better period in the 20th.... we were all better off with Clinton ....


I see. So if one's morals are in the gutter and as long as he/she performs to your expectations then it's okay? Clinton was and is a disgrace to the office of the President of the United States, regardless of the state of the Union.

Dogman[/quote]

First ... the State of the Union was never in danger ....and to most of the civilized world ... Bill Clinton is a hero and is widely respected .... it is only in this country is there a vocal few who think of him as immoral ... did you forgive Jimmy Swarggert ...

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