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Sep 3, 2019 08:13:22   #
Kmgw9v Loc: Miami, Florida
 
billnikon wrote:
OH, I love you guys and your BAD COPIES. Today camera's are tested during assembly to make sure they all operate the SAME.
IE, their are no bad copies, only bad photographers.
I have worked in and out of the photo industry for over 35 years. And, when the GUYS get together one of the funny topics of conversation is BAD COPIES. I have made many many friends in the photo industry over the years and I am happy to report that, their are not bad copies, only bad photographers.
As I said to the OP, unless he increases his SKILL LEVEL, he will continue to get, in his opinion, BAD COPIES.
I know you will not like this post and will probably respond negatively to it. But, the truth is the truth, bad photographers are bad, regardless of their equipment.
OH, I love you guys and your BAD COPIES. Today cam... (show quote)


I don’t have your experience, but I tend to agree. People are quick to find excuses, rather than admit truth.

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Sep 3, 2019 08:26:25   #
Steve Perry Loc: Sylvania, Ohio
 
The D7500 is probably one of the most underrated cameras ever. IMO, it's a little gem and I'm sure you'll enjoy it. Have fun and congrats!

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Sep 3, 2019 08:37:42   #
Blair Shaw Jr Loc: Dunnellon,Florida
 
billnikon wrote:
OH, I love you guys and your BAD COPIES. Today camera's are tested during assembly to make sure they all operate the SAME.
IE, their are no bad copies, only bad photographers.
I have worked in and out of the photo industry for over 35 years. And, when the GUYS get together one of the funny topics of conversation is BAD COPIES. I have made many many friends in the photo industry over the years and I am happy to report that, their are not bad copies, only bad photographers.
As I said to the OP, unless he increases his SKILL LEVEL, he will continue to get, in his opinion, BAD COPIES.
I know you will not like this post and will probably respond negatively to it. But, the truth is the truth, bad photographers are bad, regardless of their equipment.
OH, I love you guys and your BAD COPIES. Today cam... (show quote)


....the Fool behind The Tool almost always. I have never had a bad camera either ......from anywhere...and only one sprocket advance failure on a film camera 30 years ago. But other than that........zilch !

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Sep 3, 2019 08:54:05   #
MauiMoto Loc: Hawaii
 
billnikon wrote:
OH, I love you guys and your BAD COPIES. Today camera's are tested during assembly to make sure they all operate the SAME.
IE, their are no bad copies, only bad photographers.
I have worked in and out of the photo industry for over 35 years. And, when the GUYS get together one of the funny topics of conversation is BAD COPIES. I have made many many friends in the photo industry over the years and I am happy to report that, their are not bad copies, only bad photographers.
As I said to the OP, unless he increases his SKILL LEVEL, he will continue to get, in his opinion, BAD COPIES.
I know you will not like this post and will probably respond negatively to it. But, the truth is the truth, bad photographers are bad, regardless of their equipment.
OH, I love you guys and your BAD COPIES. Today cam... (show quote)


So you are saying that Steve Perry is a bad photographer? Because I have heard him say that he has sent back bad copies. Nothing man made is going to be perfect everytime. My understanding is that about 80 percent of products will perform as expected, about 10 percent, better than expected and 10 percent will underperform.
It also sounds like he just didn't like that model and the D7500 is a better camera in nearly every way that matters.

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Sep 3, 2019 09:19:29   #
olemikey Loc: 6 mile creek, Spacecoast Florida
 
billnikon wrote:
OH, I love you guys and your BAD COPIES. Today camera's are tested during assembly to make sure they all operate the SAME.
IE, their are no bad copies, only bad photographers.
I have worked in and out of the photo industry for over 35 years. And, when the GUYS get together one of the funny topics of conversation is BAD COPIES. I have made many many friends in the photo industry over the years and I am happy to report that, their are not bad copies, only bad photographers.
As I said to the OP, unless he increases his SKILL LEVEL, he will continue to get, in his opinion, BAD COPIES.
I know you will not like this post and will probably respond negatively to it. But, the truth is the truth, bad photographers are bad, regardless of their equipment.
OH, I love you guys and your BAD COPIES. Today cam... (show quote)


Statement like that quoted: One could also flip that and say "I love you guys who state that a certain manufacturer never makes or let's a bad copy of any product slip through to the public" - really? If you have never been involved in manufacturing and distribution (of anything) then I understand the naivety of your position. But the real world is a bit different than that.....bad copies, early or late failures, glitches, issues that show up a few (or few thousand) clicks down the road...these are all real world, these things actually happen in the real world.... Nikon (Canon, Sony, Panasonic, Oly, whoever) never makes or releases a bad copy - Pleeeeaaaase, reality check required.

I've noticed that a couple folks on UHH have never had a bad anything made by Nikon (and this would apply to any brand) and you have been very fortunate - For the rest of us - that is stastically impossible scenario... And they are usually first out of the box to imply the OP/photog is at fault (that may or may not be an issue, but how would you know?). Before I attacked anyone's shooting skills (have you ever seen any of the OP's photo work? Probably not, so you do not know of his abilities) one should consider why there are recalls, repairs, updates to operating system issues, possible shipping damage, poor batch that get's past QC (it only takes one tiny little part to start operating poorly or fail), fraudelent actions, bad handling, and any number of other issues that could affect performance right out of the box, or a little way down the road.

The OP stated that this is a recurring issue, it has been to Nikon already a good while back, was good, and then the issue returns. This is not an unheard of situation in the real world.

Every manufacturer (of anything) has a less than 100% perfect product performance, any MFG. who says they don't is a liar, plain and simple....if not, there would never be early failures, returns for repairs or issues, etc. AND no, I'm not saying every operator/photog is never wrong, or that every OP/photog never makes a mistake.....but every component that reaches the public is perfect - not in this lifetime.
Do some reading on real world product performance (by any MFG.) reported by industry tracking groups (not "fan boys") - I think you might learn that there are of potentialities.

Now for the OP; I hope your experience with the D7500 is a wonderful one, I have both the D7100/7200, and I think they are fine cameras, I enjoy mine (old D90 too, still good) and a D80 and D90 that both developed issues well before they should have....it is not a perfect world, but you will (I think) enjoy the D7500.

Now - back to Hurricane preps, I've been working like crazy helping myself and my neighbors prepare (4 days so far)....Please Dorian, go a little farther offshore from the Space Center, and we will all be happy campers!!!!!

And Pray for the folks of the Bahamas, they have just been through hell.

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Sep 3, 2019 09:21:39   #
TucsonDave Loc: Tucson, Arizona
 
billnikon wrote:
OH, I love you guys and your BAD COPIES. Today camera's are tested during assembly to make sure they all operate the SAME.
IE, their are no bad copies, only bad photographers.
I have worked in and out of the photo industry for over 35 years. And, when the GUYS get together one of the funny topics of conversation is BAD COPIES. I have made many many friends in the photo industry over the years and I am happy to report that, their are not bad copies, only bad photographers.
As I said to the OP, unless he increases his SKILL LEVEL, he will continue to get, in his opinion, BAD COPIES.
I know you will not like this post and will probably respond negatively to it. But, the truth is the truth, bad photographers are bad, regardless of their equipment.
OH, I love you guys and your BAD COPIES. Today cam... (show quote)


Bill,
Most quality issues are due to poor photographic techniques. But, from time to time, defective cameras are produced and sold, even by Nikon. That's what happens in the real world. Ask most of the Hogs.

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Sep 3, 2019 09:51:07   #
Murray Loc: New Westminster
 
billnikon wrote:
OH, I love you guys and your BAD COPIES. Today camera's are tested during assembly to make sure they all operate the SAME.
IE, their are no bad copies, only bad photographers.
I have worked in and out of the photo industry for over 35 years. And, when the GUYS get together one of the funny topics of conversation is BAD COPIES. I have made many many friends in the photo industry over the years and I am happy to report that, their are not bad copies, only bad photographers.
As I said to the OP, unless he increases his SKILL LEVEL, he will continue to get, in his opinion, BAD COPIES.
I know you will not like this post and will probably respond negatively to it. But, the truth is the truth, bad photographers are bad, regardless of their equipment.
OH, I love you guys and your BAD COPIES. Today cam... (show quote)


That’s simple nonsense. Brand loyalty appreciated. Situational awareness not so much. There are countless threads here about op’s sending their cameras back to manufacturers...... are they ALL bad shooters?

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Sep 3, 2019 10:12:57   #
camerapapi Loc: Miami, Fl.
 
The Nikon D7000 was your "most disappointed camera?" I have owned my D7000 for about 4 years now. I have used it for flash photography, portraits, landscapes, family photos even action and wildlife and it has done the job to perfection for me.
Search the Internet and I do not believe you will find many photographers who are not happy with the D7000.

You mentioned that your D7000 had front and back focus and that Nikon made the adjustments. Honest of God, that is kind of uncommon and even more uncommon that after adjustments it is still doing it. Never heard of this before not meaning it could not happen.
I hope you will be happy with the D7500.

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Sep 3, 2019 12:29:27   #
BebuLamar
 
tmicro wrote:
The D-7000 has back and front focus problems. The fine tune option does not correct it. I sent mine back to Nikon and it worked good for a few months and started doing it again. I loose about 50% of what would normally be keepers. Very frustrating. Just not reliable enough. The rest of the 7000 series are fine. I'm a Nikon guy, always have been ( even in the film days ) and still am. One bad camera wont change that.


You had a lemon of a camera otherwise the D7000 would not be that bad.

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Sep 3, 2019 13:47:05   #
SteveR Loc: Michigan
 
tmicro wrote:
The D-7000 has back and front focus problems. The fine tune option does not correct it. I sent mine back to Nikon and it worked good for a few months and started doing it again. I loose about 50% of what would normally be keepers. Very frustrating. Just not reliable enough. The rest of the 7000 series are fine. I'm a Nikon guy, always have been ( even in the film days ) and still am. One bad camera wont change that.


My experience was just the opposite. Right out of the box I was blown away by the D7000, my first DSLR after shooting film. No focus problems at all. I recently bought a D7500 for my daughter, though, and am amazed by the advances in technology since the D7000. I do have a D800 as well.

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Sep 3, 2019 14:16:37   #
uhaas2009
 
The 7000 is an okay camera, but when I got the 810 😍😍😍. Certain lenses are weak on the 7000, but with the right lenses everything is fine. 7000 is a solid strong body and have the right future like OCF, wireless remote just to name some.
The 810 runs quicker errors, mislead the first time-sec time I get it, wireless remote-I don’t know what Nikon was thinking, card reader errors. Just to mention some.....
Good luck with your new 7500

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Sep 3, 2019 16:57:05   #
Race Raccoon Loc: Yankton, South Dakota
 
billnikon wrote:
OH, I love you guys and your BAD COPIES. Today camera's are tested during assembly to make sure they all operate the SAME.
IE, their are no bad copies, only bad photographers.
I have worked in and out of the photo industry for over 35 years. And, when the GUYS get together one of the funny topics of conversation is BAD COPIES. I have made many many friends in the photo industry over the years and I am happy to report that, their are not bad copies, only bad photographers.
As I said to the OP, unless he increases his SKILL LEVEL, he will continue to get, in his opinion, BAD COPIES.
I know you will not like this post and will probably respond negatively to it. But, the truth is the truth, bad photographers are bad, regardless of their equipment.
OH, I love you guys and your BAD COPIES. Today cam... (show quote)


You are joking here, right?

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Sep 3, 2019 20:11:38   #
tmicro Loc: Walkertown,N.C.
 
This is straight from Thom Hogans Nikon D7000 review. ( The D7000 had focus issues for many, but the D7100 and D7200 fixed that and added a great deal of sophistication and performance to the basic price perfect point concept.) To some standards here Thom must be a lousy photographer just like me.

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Sep 3, 2019 20:34:12   #
SteveR Loc: Michigan
 
tmicro wrote:
This is straight from Thom Hogans Nikon D7000 review. ( The D7000 had focus issues for many, but the D7100 and D7200 fixed that and added a great deal of sophistication and performance to the basic price perfect point concept.) To some standards here Thom must be a lousy photographer just like me.


He did say, "to many," which would indicate that to others there was no problem. At the time that it came out I never heard of this problem. I'm sorry that you had them. It worked great with my 28-300, Tamron 10-24 and also an old Nikon 35-80 that I had from film days. In fact, I still use it as my dedicated wide angle camera, paired with the Tamron.

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Sep 3, 2019 21:02:22   #
wsa111 Loc: Goose Creek, South Carolina
 
I like my D7500. Lightning fast processor.
Yes i wish it had 2 card slots, but that would add weight to the camera.
Have to please the women.
Nikon needs a firmware update to make the F2 button to allow center-weighted metering.
Presently i have the F1 button for spot metering.
A very nice camera, but i still like the features with my D750.
My D800 is slow, but the results are crisp.

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