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Sep 1, 2019 10:46:17   #
markngolf Loc: Bridgewater, NJ
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
Why don't you start by going to your computer and signing into google photos with your google user name and password, assuming your user name is some form of @gmail.com. If you can access them, you should be able to download them.


Now that's practical, doable and a sensible suggestion! Way to go, Paul!!
Mark

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Sep 1, 2019 11:20:48   #
JD750 Loc: SoCal
 
anotherview wrote:
Somewhere in the fine print, you will find that Google has laid claim to your photos when you use the Google software. Google then uses your photos in furtherance of its business model. Google monetizes your photos but without compensation to you, the creator of them. I found this unwanted arrangement in software I bought for tagging my photos with GPS locations. The fine print (using weasel words) said Google would attach my photos to these locations and make these attached photos available to others who viewed that location, but without attribution and without compensation to me, the user, the creator. So I stopped using that Google pirate software.

I'd appreciate hearing from others with experience using GPS software that excludes a connection to Google to use and monetize my photos.
Somewhere in the fine print, you will find that Go... (show quote)


Wait I am confused. You have GPS Tagging software that states that Google will use the photos tagged with that software? Are they saying you have granted a creative commons license to all images tagged with that software? That is different from saying the photos can be used for monetary purposes. Can you post that fine print so we can all read it?

What is the name of that software?

All the photo sharing sites, 500Pix, Flicker, SmugMug, Photos, Instagram, UHH, Facebook, et. al. have a "terms of service" statement you agree to when you use the site. Some are benign, some are not. And You might be surprised at what some of them say. Facebook's is particularly egregious.

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Sep 1, 2019 15:49:50   #
ChaplainPlato Loc: Florida
 
SS319 wrote:
Face it, Cameras are like guns! It was not you that shot those pictures, it was your camera and the Google Android operating system. They own those pictures not you and they will tellyou when and how you can see the photos their OS took.

You REALLY thought you took those pictures?


👍

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Sep 1, 2019 22:24:32   #
aberthet Loc: San Clemente, CA
 
anotherview wrote:
Prepare yourself. The Real ID is coming. It will bring a higher level of identification of the individual citizen.
Here in the State of California, the Department of Motor Vehicles will process ID applications and issue the ID card.


My wife and I got our new Real ID a month ago. You will need to have one if you want to board an airplane sometimes in 2020, or you will have to carry your passport. What do you prefer to carry for an ID is up to you. For us the choice was simple.

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Sep 2, 2019 03:04:34   #
johneccles Loc: Leyland UK
 
My Nokia does the same but l can still view on any other photo gallery. Your photographs are still stored locally on your phone and not in Google cloud unless you have decided to so.

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Sep 2, 2019 08:20:14   #
Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
 
anotherview wrote:
Somewhere in the fine print, you will find that Google has laid claim to your photos when you use the Google software. Google then uses your photos in furtherance of its business model. Google monetizes your photos but without compensation to you, the creator of them. I found this unwanted arrangement in software I bought for tagging my photos with GPS locations. The fine print (using weasel words) said Google would attach my photos to these locations and make these attached photos available to others who viewed that location, but without attribution and without compensation to me, the user, the creator. So I stopped using that Google pirate software.

I'd appreciate hearing from others with experience using GPS software that excludes a connection to Google to use and monetize my photos.
Somewhere in the fine print, you will find that Go... (show quote)


NONSENSE!!!!

Google's TOS "fine print"

"Some of our Services allow you to upload, submit, store, send or receive content. You retain ownership of any intellectual property rights that you hold in that content. In short, what belongs to you stays yours."

Nothing buried, no weasel or pirate(s) involved - just another bit of fake news mythology being reposted without proper research with the intent of making people just a little crazy. We have enough fake stuff around, we don't need it here too.

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Sep 2, 2019 09:10:52   #
anotherview Loc: California
 
Good morning. You have me partly at a disadvantage because you quote text from a Google notice. But the text fails to go to the issue of how Google uses the photographs of others to fulfill the business model of Google.

Certainly, the photographer keeps ownership interest in the subject photographs under copyright law. My concern goes to usage of the same photographs.

In my earlier post, I referenced text from software that I used, briefly, years ago. I do not have the text available now. Yet I do recall the sense of the weasel words of Google saying it could use my photographs in connection with the locations that my photographs depicted. Google offered no compensation to me, the user and photographer, for its business use of my photographs.

Accordingly, I deleted the pirating software to prevent Google from monetizing my photographs to its benefit.

I seek GPS tagging software for my photographs which excludes any use by Google of my photographs.
Gene51 wrote:
NONSENSE!!!!

Google's TOS "fine print"

"Some of our Services allow you to upload, submit, store, send or receive content. You retain ownership of any intellectual property rights that you hold in that content. In short, what belongs to you stays yours."

Nothing buried, no weasel or pirate(s) involved - just another bit of fake news mythology being reposted without proper research with the intent of making people just a little crazy. We have enough fake stuff around, we don't need it here too.
NONSENSE!!!! br br Google's TOS "fine print&... (show quote)

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Sep 2, 2019 12:00:16   #
JackB
 
Google photos is one of the best things to happen to digital photography. It will backup all the photos on your phone and your computer if you learn how to use it and adjust the settings. The only limitation is the free vs the paid amount of storage. It is ideal for those that complain they have 3000 photos on their phone don’t know what to do with them. Far better than iCloud. I have numerous albums on Google Photos and I can share by giving access to specific albums!

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Sep 2, 2019 19:23:57   #
Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
 
anotherview wrote:
Good morning. You have me partly at a disadvantage because you quote text from a Google notice. But the text fails to go to the issue of how Google uses the photographs of others to fulfill the business model of Google.

Certainly, the photographer keeps ownership interest in the subject photographs under copyright law. My concern goes to usage of the same photographs.

In my earlier post, I referenced text from software that I used, briefly, years ago. I do not have the text available now. Yet I do recall the sense of the weasel words of Google saying it could use my photographs in connection with the locations that my photographs depicted. Google offered no compensation to me, the user and photographer, for its business use of my photographs.

Accordingly, I deleted the pirating software to prevent Google from monetizing my photographs to its benefit.

I seek GPS tagging software for my photographs which excludes any use by Google of my photographs.
Good morning. You have me partly at a disadvantag... (show quote)


It boils down to whether you upload images into a public folder or a private one. If using a public folder to publish - then your images are fair game - and that would be logical. But if you publish your images to a private folder, then they don't touch them. Either way, Google will not use the images for promotional or commercial purposes.

https://www.quora.com/Does-Google-own-my-photos-once-I-upload-them-to-Google-photos

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Sep 3, 2019 03:12:48   #
rook2c4 Loc: Philadelphia, PA USA
 
To keep your images ending up on Google Photos, you need to go into your phone's settings and adjust accordingly.

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Sep 3, 2019 07:54:11   #
anotherview Loc: California
 
Let me please try to clarify my concern. Years ago, I bought a piece of software that used GPS to tag my photographs with their location. It worked well.

Then I noticed that a given site had several photographs associated with it.

In reading the fine print that came with the GPS tagging software I found weasel-worded text that gave Google the right to use my photographs to display to others who viewed a given site -- without my permission or any explicit authorization.

I wanted the GPS tagging software to inform only me (not potentially the whole online population) of the location of my photographs. I felt betrayed that Google used my photographs this way, promoting itself and thus monetizing my photographs for its purposes. Accordingly, I deleted the software.

I did not save the offending text for a later day to support my opinion and action.

If anybody reading my post knows of a GPS tagging software free of Google pirating my photographs, I will appreciate knowing about it. I still want to tag my photographs with GPS info. Thanks.
JD750 wrote:
Wait I am confused. You have GPS Tagging software that states that Google will use the photos tagged with that software? Are they saying you have granted a creative commons license to all images tagged with that software? That is different from saying the photos can be used for monetary purposes. Can you post that fine print so we can all read it?

What is the name of that software?

All the photo sharing sites, 500Pix, Flicker, SmugMug, Photos, Instagram, UHH, Facebook, et. al. have a "terms of service" statement you agree to when you use the site. Some are benign, some are not. And You might be surprised at what some of them say. Facebook's is particularly egregious.
Wait I am confused. You have GPS Tagging software ... (show quote)

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Sep 4, 2019 07:17:14   #
Tomcat5133 Loc: Gladwyne PA
 
ghill42 wrote:
Washington has been going full press on personal IDs since 9/11 made it so convenient for them to do so. In light of even much more of their deviant and ongoing shenanigans, what Google does with my photos is the least of my concerns.


Good comment thank you. For the first time in my life "as an American citizen being half Italian
with olive skin my grandmother was from Sardinia" I wondered if the incompetence in Homeland Security
and our government would challenge my citizenship since I was born in Brooklyn.

I was sitting in SS regional office waiting with a number to get a SS card to transfer my license from FL. To PA. I have a medicare card. A 1099 reciept for last years SS. Correspondence from SS. I am waiting for
the card to transfer my license and got a strange email from SS to use online service for this.
Well I tried and the SS software couldnt recover my file.

I am not an afraid kind of guy. But wonder where this IDing is going in the US.

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Sep 5, 2019 22:45:23   #
mlkddk Loc: Colorado
 
Thanks to all for your insight. I have found out how to make sure Google no longer gets my photos, in any way, format or form. . It appears when they stopped supporting Picasa, they "automatically" assumed I would want my photos backed up on line. WRONG!!! I still don't have the photos back in a format I can use, but I will figure that out with time. The saving grace is that I stopped all automatic backups and updates shortly after they stopped supporting Picasa, so they did not get a lot of stuff. I will delete the photos as best I can off their web site and monitor things very closely.

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Sep 6, 2019 00:10:22   #
anotherview Loc: California
 
Good for you.
mlkddk wrote:
Thanks to all for your insight. I have found out how to make sure Google no longer gets my photos, in any way, format or form. . It appears when they stopped supporting Picasa, they "automatically" assumed I would want my photos backed up on line. WRONG!!! I still don't have the photos back in a format I can use, but I will figure that out with time. The saving grace is that I stopped all automatic backups and updates shortly after they stopped supporting Picasa, so they did not get a lot of stuff. I will delete the photos as best I can off their web site and monitor things very closely.
Thanks to all for your insight. I have found out ... (show quote)

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