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Sep 1, 2019 15:38:45   #
elliott937 Loc: St. Louis
 
JD, thank you for saying that. We're in the same club. iMac here, true and true.

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Sep 1, 2019 16:10:29   #
grichie5
 
OZMON wrote:
how many hoggers back up their pc so as not to lose their precious photographs in the event of a pc crash.


I use two hard drives in my new machine. One is a 500 GB ssd PCLe M.2 drive and the other is a 3 TB regular hard drive. My operating system, programs, and current data, downloads and current images are stored on the 500 gb drive. The larger drive is used for archival storage of less recent images, documents and etc.
Using Acronis True Image, I make a system image back up of the c drive weekly, or more often when new images have been saved. The other drive is backed up periodically if and when data has been added.
A full disk image of the c drive, containing about 100 gb of data takes about three minutes. Incremental backups are much quicker. Acronis now lets you make the external storage media bootable and protects the backup images from ransomware.

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Sep 1, 2019 16:38:04   #
JD750 Loc: SoCal
 
elliott937 wrote:
JD, thank you for saying that. We're in the same club. iMac here, true and true.


Your welcome.

Backup is important no matter what type of OS is being used, MacOS, Windows, LINUX all require backup strategies.

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Sep 1, 2019 16:50:02   #
markngolf Loc: Bridgewater, NJ
 
JD750 wrote:
I don't back up a pc I have a mac. I have 3 backups. TimeMachine which is an Archive, and two are bootable clones kept at different physical locations.


Not to be picky or critical, but PC is an abbreviation for Personal Computer. If a Mac is not a PC, what is it?
Mark

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Sep 1, 2019 16:56:03   #
DirtFarmer Loc: Escaped from the NYC area, back to MA
 
markngolf wrote:
Not to be picky or critical, but PC is an abbreviation for Personal Computer. If a Mac is not a PC, what is it?
Mark


It must be an Apple Computer.

AC/PC

Maybe we should be calling a Windows computer a WC?

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Sep 1, 2019 17:05:42   #
n46130
 
One thing to consider is to make a "clone "backup so that in the event of a computer virus or crash, you can restore the hard disk. I use Acronis True Image. I believe it is a free download if you have a Wesern Digital Hard Drive'

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Sep 1, 2019 17:11:55   #
JD750 Loc: SoCal
 
markngolf wrote:
Not to be picky or critical, but PC is an abbreviation for Personal Computer. If a Mac is not a PC, what is it?
Mark


The common nomenclature is PC means a computer running Windows whereas Apple Or Mac is used to denote an Apple computer running MacOS.

But you make a good point. We have many types of "personal computers" these days, not just desktop or laptop systems, but also phones, and tablets, iPads, Surfaces ... and they all need to be backed up.

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Sep 1, 2019 19:41:23   #
Picture Taker Loc: Michigan Thumb
 
They also say in time the DVD disks die. Don't know that for sure but, Imwas told don't use DVD's

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Sep 1, 2019 19:46:13   #
mwsilvers Loc: Central New Jersey
 
elliott937 wrote:
I'm probably going to ruffle some feathers, but ... my first back up is that I burn each memory card to a DVD, first and foremost. Then when it's time to work on one, I'll save that "work" file to my 1st external HD. Once I have the image finished, ready to print on whatever format, I save that onto a 2nd I call "Archive" HD. Been counting? So far, I have three saved files, with the first a RAW on a DVD.

I never save any image files on the computer's HD. I don't even save any Word files on it either. (Remember, I'm a teacher with test files.) Those Word files go onto the 1st external HD.

And before anyone tells me that saving my original RAW files onto DVDs is a bad idea, let me share this experience. Begining in the early 2000's, I saved my RAW files on a CD, via Toast. Just last week, I pulled some images from 2004, from four of those CDs, and they loaded perfectly. I'm a strong believer of a making my first saved file on a CD, or now a DVD.
I'm probably going to ruffle some feathers, but ..... (show quote)


Backup whatever way works for you. I currently have 685 gigabytes of images files, 1.5 terabytes of video files, and around 30 gigabytes of financial data and Word, Excel and PowerPoint and PDF files. Many files are updated regularly or purposely deleted. Others are renamed. I also have around another 25 gigabytes of downloaded program installation files. i manually start incremental backups usually every two days, and automatically start one every time I reboot, which is perhaps every week or so. The bsckups are made to four different external hard drives. Your approach would be impractical for the volume and type of backups I perform. All primary data also is stored on my four terabyte internal D drive.

I'd probably need around 340-400 DVDs to back that all up. It would be a management nightmare just labelling them, much less deleting, renaming and adding files in incremental backups. The time needed for an incremental backup, even to rewritable DVDs would be enormous with an absolutely huge amount of manual effort.

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Sep 1, 2019 19:49:23   #
Picture Taker Loc: Michigan Thumb
 
Give yourself enough space to grow. I now use 8TB drives and are about 1/2 full. It just keeps growing.

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Sep 1, 2019 19:51:11   #
mwsilvers Loc: Central New Jersey
 
Picture Taker wrote:
Give yourself enough space to grow. I now use 8TB drives and are about 1/2 full. It just keeps growing.


You've got that right!

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Sep 1, 2019 20:31:48   #
Ron Dial Loc: Cuenca, Ecuador
 
There are two kinds of people. Those who have suffered a crash loss and those who will suffer a loss. Back up at least on one back up or be prepared to lose it. At some point ALL digital media fails, yes all, or the computer industry will change formats and stop supporting it. You need to keep up with the back media. Remember OS9 or Windows 98?.

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Sep 1, 2019 23:30:05   #
11bravo
 
therwol wrote:
I see a lot of responses about backing up pictures/files. What is the other concern if your PC crashes? You have to get it up and running again. There may be a factory backup image option. You may have installed Windows yourself at some point to have a "clean install." When I get a new PC, I clean it up and install the most obvious needed software, Office, Adobe etc. Then I make a backup using Macrium Reflect. This takes me one step beyond a factory backup. I also make further incremental backups to have some choices regarding where to restore the computer in time. Windows System Restore can take you back before some issues but not all, and depending on the problem, you may not even be able to get to it.
I see a lot of responses about backing up pictures... (show quote)
Likewise, Macrium Reflect for me, periodic full images, then incrementals in between. It's not just hardware failure, but an OS patch that fails, a manual config change that doesn't work as expected, operator error... Nice to have a no-brainer method of returning to the past. Windows restore has improved, but not foolproof. An image restore is (verify the backup after creation and check the logs).

Drive images are also essential for drive recovery. If a drive is failing, the last thing you want to do is unnecessarily stress it. Clone to another drive, then recover from the clone (e.g. rebuilding a corrupted MFT is a simple case).

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Sep 2, 2019 00:09:32   #
JD750 Loc: SoCal
 
Picture Taker wrote:
They also say in time the DVD disks die. Don't know that for sure but, Imwas told don't use DVD's


There is great variability in DVD life depending on several things. The promise of 100 year lifetime was not met. The read-only “stamped” versions can last longer but there was a problem with the adhesive on the DVD labels, it was degrading the DVD data some become unreadable in only a few years.

The read-write variety are less robust to start I don’t know the expected life but I would guess you need to “leap-frog” re-write the data every few years. Only a guess.

The bigger threat is that more compact, cheaper, faster methods of storing digital data have been developed and the have mostly taken over.

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Sep 2, 2019 02:42:02   #
JeffDavidson Loc: Originally Detroit Now Los Angeles
 
I do with two external hard drives and on-line backup with Carbonite.

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