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Aug 29, 2019 11:14:11   #
khorinek
 
dandev wrote:
Here is the photo


NICE!

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Aug 29, 2019 11:14:48   #
SuperflyTNT Loc: Manassas VA
 
Gene51 wrote:
More than likely you'll need to push your ISO and add additional light befor you need to buy a faster lens. Using an F2.8 or F2 lens wide open will admit more light, but your depth of field will be thin. For events it's usually better to go to F5.6 or smaller, even if that means you need to shoot at ISO 6400 or higher.

Beware of flash domes and card diffusers if your distance from light to subject is more than a few feet. A dome at 10 ft or more is not all that different than an unmodified speedlight - and in a big space without the benefit of bounce surfaces, will provide harsh shadows. The same goes for bounce cards - even the Rogue Flashbenders are not going to provide flattering light if the distance is too great.

This guy has some great advice on how to provide natural-looking light with speedlights for event photography.

https://neilvn.com/tangents/high-iso-bounce-flash-photography/
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I agree. Fast is always great, but for those type of shots you rarely want to shoot wide open. I don't know Canon but I've read that you can get good 11x14 prints as high as ISO 12,800.


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Aug 29, 2019 11:22:27   #
Resqu2 Loc: SW Va
 
SuperflyTNT wrote:
I agree. Fast is always great, but for those type of shots you rarely want to shoot wide open. I don't know Canon but I've read that you can get good 11x14 prints as high as ISO 12,800.



Yea I agree and the good thing about the photos I’m going to be taking is none will ever be printed I don’t think. They will be used online to promote the group and there functions and to just document the entire event for social media use.

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Aug 29, 2019 12:22:39   #
JDefebaugh
 
Agree with others who said 2.8 is too slow; you will want at least 1.8. IMHO 1.4 will be best as it adds the best selective focus creativity for you.

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Aug 29, 2019 12:23:29   #
dick ranez
 
Consider renting the 35mm 1.4L. Indoors it has the "speed" in low light and is a good focal length for groups of people and half body portraits. The 24-70 f2.8 is the general "go-to" lens for indoor events. The best use for you 70-200 would be it there's a dais and there will be speakers and awards presentations that you could shoot from the peripheral. (Be sure to get an agenda from the organization so you can know what's going to happen). Another tip - arrive early and shoot the preparations - it will give you a good feeling for the lighting and will give you an opportunity to get to know the organizers for future events.

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Aug 29, 2019 13:31:27   #
ELNikkor
 
I wouldn't spend any money to get just one more f-stop. With that camera, you can just up your ISO a stop, make sure you are set on a neutral (no "improved saturation" settings!), and maybe a -1 fill-flash if the light is really low, or there is action to be stopped. Don't be afraid to shoot wide open, that lens is sharp at all apertures.

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Aug 29, 2019 14:19:35   #
Resqu2 Loc: SW Va
 
dick ranez wrote:
Consider renting the 35mm 1.4L. Indoors it has the "speed" in low light and is a good focal length for groups of people and half body portraits. The 24-70 f2.8 is the general "go-to" lens for indoor events. The best use for you 70-200 would be it there's a dais and there will be speakers and awards presentations that you could shoot from the peripheral. (Be sure to get an agenda from the organization so you can know what's going to happen). Another tip - arrive early and shoot the preparations - it will give you a good feeling for the lighting and will give you an opportunity to get to know the organizers for future events.
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I know part of the event is a silent auction, various speakers and a band that will be playing the entire time. My 70-200 will go with me for sure and I like the 35mm idea also and may rent one. I think there expecting 200 people.

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Aug 29, 2019 14:27:01   #
khorinek
 
If you use the 35mm f/1.4 be careful with group shots. f/1.4 will give a shallow depth of field and with a large group, the people in the back row will be out of focus.

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Aug 29, 2019 14:52:38   #
ecurb1105
 
Resqu2 wrote:
Last weekend I saw a 5k mud/obstacle race and took my camera just to be doing something, I was at the finish line catching runners cross when the director of the event came up and gave me her card and ask for the photos, seemed real upset with her Photographer, said he was suppose to be covering that area but he was off playing with his drone.

That night I sent her the pics and she seemed to really like them and ask if I was available to cover a Gala there doing. Now for the question, it’s a late evening, indoor event and the location has dim lighting for these events. I only have a 24-105 f/4 lens and a 70-200 f/2.8. I think the 70-200 will be to long and I don’t think my 24-105 would be good with the lighting with it being an f/4. I’m considering renting or just going ahead and purchasing a 24-70 f/2.8. Flash and setting up lights isn’t an option here. Do y’all agree or do y’all think my 24-105 would handle it?

I usually do all my work outdoors and with natural light but I don’t want my equipment to limit me. I’m shooting with a Canon 5D mark iv. I have done indoor, lowlight work with my 70-200 and was happy with the results but never worked with the 24-105 in these conditions.
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Just get a 35mm f2 and a decent flash and extension sync cord, a stroboframe bracket to elevate the flash and you're good to go. Use the 35mm lens only and zoom with your feet.

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Aug 29, 2019 15:01:33   #
rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
 
ecurb1105 wrote:
Just get a 35mm f2 and a decent flash and extension sync cord, a stroboframe bracket to elevate the flash and you're good to go. Use the 35mm lens only and zoom with your feet.

Please read all the conditions before offering advice.
Resqu2 wrote:
Flash and setting up lights isn’t an option here.

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Aug 29, 2019 19:52:12   #
scallihan Loc: Tigard, OR
 
Resqu2 wrote:
Last weekend I saw a 5k mud/obstacle race and took my camera just to be doing something, I was at the finish line catching runners cross when the director of the event came up and gave me her card and ask for the photos, seemed real upset with her Photographer, said he was suppose to be covering that area but he was off playing with his drone.

That night I sent her the pics and she seemed to really like them and ask if I was available to cover a Gala there doing. Now for the question, it’s a late evening, indoor event and the location has dim lighting for these events. I only have a 24-105 f/4 lens and a 70-200 f/2.8. I think the 70-200 will be to long and I don’t think my 24-105 would be good with the lighting with it being an f/4. I’m considering renting or just going ahead and purchasing a 24-70 f/2.8. Flash and setting up lights isn’t an option here. Do y’all agree or do y’all think my 24-105 would handle it?

I usually do all my work outdoors and with natural light but I don’t want my equipment to limit me. I’m shooting with a Canon 5D mark iv. I have done indoor, lowlight work with my 70-200 and was happy with the results but never worked with the 24-105 in these conditions.
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I would try to set up a similar environment and experiment a bit first.

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Aug 29, 2019 20:09:29   #
Resqu2 Loc: SW Va
 
scallihan wrote:
I would try to set up a similar environment and experiment a bit first.


That would be great if I could, the place stays pretty booked this time of the year. Will have to ask. Few questions for sure.

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Aug 30, 2019 12:50:57   #
dat2ra Loc: Sacramento
 
Coming in late on discussion, but I'd ask what they are going to use the photos for. If it's for small-size, online promotion, the higher grain from higher ISO is not so important. But if they want large physical prints, then you might consider faster glass.

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Aug 30, 2019 12:57:20   #
Resqu2 Loc: SW Va
 
dat2ra wrote:
Coming in late on discussion, but I'd ask what they are going to use the photos for. If it's for small-size, online promotion, the higher grain from higher ISO is not so important. But if they want large physical prints, then you might consider faster glass.


I will know more early next week but I don’t think a single one will be printed unless it’s something small within a brochure or something like that.

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