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Aug 27, 2019 09:21:37   #
petego4it Loc: NY
 
Great example shots!! I have the D500 too with 200-500, good lens for kids sports. Obviously make sure you use at least a monopod!

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Aug 27, 2019 10:31:43   #
Nikon1201
 
I have a Sigma 50-500 I use on my Nikon D 610 and love it.

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Aug 27, 2019 10:36:21   #
dsmeltz Loc: Philadelphia
 
grberg wrote:
I’m looking for some advice from those of you with experience using the Nikon 200-500 or the 80-400. My photography hobby consists mostly of trying to get good action shots at the grandkids’ soccer and little league games. I have the latest version of the 70-200 2.8 teamed up with a d500 and I’m very happy with the results. I can get close to soccer fields so the 70-200 would likely always be the lens for soccer. But my grandson plays travel ball baseball and many of the fields are set up where you must stand much farther away from the action to get an unobstructed shot. Sometimes I’ll use my old trusty 18-300 and manage to get some good pics, but because I often have to crop in I think I’d like a little more reach. The 80-400 would be more versatile, so maybe it comes down to how well these lenses AF on moving subjects. Any suggestions would be appreciated, thanks.
I’m looking for some advice from those of you with... (show quote)


You have the 70-200 2.8. Have you considered 1.4 or 2x teleconverter?

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Aug 27, 2019 10:48:31   #
photoman43
 
In addition to the above, add a Nikon 1.4x tc to your 70-200mm f2.8. If you need more focal length, consider getting the Nikon 300mm f4 PF lens, both with and w/o a 1.4x tc. That lens and tc on a D 500 is a great combination and is light in weight, easy to use had held, and image quality is very good. I use that combo all the time when I do not need to use my 500mm f4.

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Aug 27, 2019 11:37:10   #
Stanj
 
I used a Sigma 120-300 f2.8 Sport to photograph my daughter's college soccer. It worked out really well for me. I would have liked the Nikkor 300mm 2.8, but couldn't justify the cost.

Also used it for friend's kids baseball and football.

Before the Sigma, I used the 70-200 f2.8 and a 1.4 tc. Worked really well, but I wanted more reach with a fast lens, since half her games were night games.

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Aug 27, 2019 15:43:18   #
OLDVIRGINIA
 
Nikon 200-500

I have had one for five months and wish I'd had it 25 years ago:)

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Aug 27, 2019 19:12:37   #
grberg
 
billnikon wrote:
When I went to the FIELD OF DREAMS in Cooperstown Pennsylvania, I was privileged to have the opportunity to photograph my Grand Nephew pitching for his team. I prefer the Nikon 200-500 to the Nikon 80-400 for two reasons.
The 200-500 is a E lens, that means the aperture is electronic, meaning that when I am shooting 10 fps I know every exposure is going to be the SAME, not the same with the 80-400 which is not an E lens.
The second reason I like the 200-500 is because IMHO it is sharper throughout it's range especially at it's high end at 500.
Lets add a third reason, the 200-500 has more reach than the 80-400, on your D500 the 200-500 gives you a 750mm field of view compared to 600mm with the 80-400. And yes, this makes a real difference.
The image below is entitled, "Concentration", take a look at that tongue.
When I went to the FIELD OF DREAMS in Cooperstown ... (show quote)


Great info, thanks very much.

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Aug 27, 2019 19:18:54   #
grberg
 
clemente21 wrote:
My kids play travel ball too and shoot with my d500 and 18-300mm or the 80-200mm. However, I stay close to the action either by using a step ladder and shooting over the fence by 1st or 3b, or just asking the umpire to shoot inside the field. This gives you greater flexibility. Umpires usually don't mind as long as you stay clear. Make sure to take your gear when you approach them so they know you are serious.

The only time I wanted a longer lens is when shooting behind the center field fence to home plate. I have yet to handle a 200-500mm lens, but the 18-300mm allows me to be mobile enough to shoot double plays and anywhere else the ball goes. But hey, if a long lens is in your crosshairs, by all means don't let me discourage you. I just wanted to share that using the smaller lens and a better shooting position you could probably do as well.

At my granddaughter’s soccer I can almost stand on the field so my 70-200 is fine. At baseball fields the best I’ve been able to do is near the outfield foul lines half way to the fence. I don’t want to take two lenses with me, so I’ll probably have to weigh flexibility of 80-400 vs. the reach of the 200-500. Thanks for the detailed response.
If you get the long lens, still try to get access to the field. Shooting closer to the grass gives you a great angle of the plays.
My kids play travel ball too and shoot with my d50... (show quote)

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Aug 27, 2019 19:20:27   #
grberg
 
photoman43 wrote:
In addition to the above, add a Nikon 1.4x tc to your 70-200mm f2.8. If you need more focal length, consider getting the Nikon 300mm f4 PF lens, both with and w/o a 1.4x tc. That lens and tc on a D 500 is a great combination and is light in weight, easy to use had held, and image quality is very good. I use that combo all the time when I do not need to use my 500mm f4.


Hadn’t thought of that, thanks much.

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Aug 27, 2019 21:38:59   #
racerrich3 Loc: Los Angeles, Ca.
 
grberg wrote:
I’m looking for some advice from those of you with experience using the Nikon 200-500 or the 80-400. My photography hobby consists mostly of trying to get good action shots at the grandkids’ soccer and little league games. I have a d500. Any suggestions would be appreciated, thanks.


I have the 200-500 and the D500. love them when I go to the race track from up in the stands or even the press box.


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Aug 28, 2019 01:09:39   #
grberg
 
racerrich3 wrote:
I have the 200-500 and the D500. love them when I go to the race track from up in the stands or even the press box.


Thanks for the photo.

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Aug 28, 2019 01:57:41   #
amfoto1 Loc: San Jose, Calif. USA
 
grberg wrote:
I’m looking for some advice from those of you with experience using the Nikon 200-500 or the 80-400. My photography hobby consists mostly of trying to get good action shots at the grandkids’ soccer and little league games. I have the latest version of the 70-200 2.8 teamed up with a d500 and I’m very happy with the results. I can get close to soccer fields so the 70-200 would likely always be the lens for soccer. But my grandson plays travel ball baseball and many of the fields are set up where you must stand much farther away from the action to get an unobstructed shot. Sometimes I’ll use my old trusty 18-300 and manage to get some good pics, but because I often have to crop in I think I’d like a little more reach. The 80-400 would be more versatile, so maybe it comes down to how well these lenses AF on moving subjects. Any suggestions would be appreciated, thanks.
I’m looking for some advice from those of you with... (show quote)


Unless you plan to use a tripod, I'd recommend the 80-400mm (or the similar Tamron 100-400mm).

The 200-500mm is a nice lens, but it's pretty large and heavy... over 5 lb. and using 95mm filters.

The Nikkor 80-400mm is much more "hand holdable" at about 3.5 lb. It uses 77mm filters.

The Tamron 100-400mm is even lighter at about 2.5 lb (without tripod ring, that's sold separately and might add 1/2 lb.) It uses 67mm bilters

Of the three, the 80-400mm is a "pro-grade" lens and the priciest at over $2000.

The 200-500mm is a relative "bargain" at under $1300. The Tamron is the most affordable at $700 (the tripod ring for it is an add'l $129).

All these lenses require pretty good light. They are f/5.6 or even f/6.3 at their max. focal lengths. Faster lenses are available (f/4 and f/2.8), but are extremely expensive, big and heavy.

Since we're sharing racing photos, I shot these with a Canon 300mm f/4 lens (<3 lb., 77mm filters, $1300)....



And that same 300mm lens with a 1.4X teleconverter added....



I do a lot of work now with a Canon 100-400mm (especially on APS-C cameras, for sports and wildlife). No racing photos with it yet. It's similar in size and weight to the Nikkor 80-400mm.

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Aug 28, 2019 02:17:04   #
jdedmonds
 
grberg wrote:
I’m looking for some advice from those of you with experience using the Nikon 200-500 or the 80-400. My photography hobby consists mostly of trying to get good action shots at the grandkids’ soccer and little league games. I have the latest version of the 70-200 2.8 teamed up with a d500 and I’m very happy with the results. I can get close to soccer fields so the 70-200 would likely always be the lens for soccer. But my grandson plays travel ball baseball and many of the fields are set up where you must stand much farther away from the action to get an unobstructed shot. Sometimes I’ll use my old trusty 18-300 and manage to get some good pics, but because I often have to crop in I think I’d like a little more reach. The 80-400 would be more versatile, so maybe it comes down to how well these lenses AF on moving subjects. Any suggestions would be appreciated, thanks.
I’m looking for some advice from those of you with... (show quote)


I have both Nikon 80-400 lenses. The original is tough to shoot with because it doesn't have the lightning fast autofocus of the newer 80-400 AF-S. The newer one is a superb telephoto lens that is pretty heavy and costs a lot. I got mine from Adorama as a Nikon Refurbished lens for $1,700. In my view it's worth every penny.

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Aug 28, 2019 02:18:54   #
racerrich3 Loc: Los Angeles, Ca.
 
amfoto1 wrote:

The 200-500mm is a nice lens, but it's over 5 lb. and using 95mm filters.
The 200-500mm is a relative "bargain" at under $1300.

Since we're sharing racing photos, I shot these with a Canon 300mm f/4 lens (<3 lb., 77mm filters, $1300)..


nice pics. looks like you weren't way up in the grandstands though, lol.

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Aug 28, 2019 02:19:35   #
racerrich3 Loc: Los Angeles, Ca.
 
grberg wrote:
Thanks for the photo.



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