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Sep 8, 2012 12:33:21   #
DEBJENROB Loc: DELRAY BEACH FL
 
Edmund Dworakowski wrote:
If you're shooting a $1600 camera and a $1200 lens, why would you cheap out for a plastic grip to save <$100 ?
It's like using a $25 tripod...


If you are reffering to me .... I have the Nikon Battery Pack .... but the Bower battery pack is much cheaper than the Nikon and it will have no effect on your photo .... however, a $25 tripod could collapse and damage the camera ... I could spend $200 for a camera bag(which I have) but it does the same thing as a $30 bag on E-Bay ....

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Sep 8, 2012 17:27:42   #
Edmund Dworakowski
 
OK.

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Sep 9, 2012 17:14:14   #
Terrymac Loc: LONDON U.K.
 
I have bought a cheap copy of a battery grip for my D800E and I must say it works very well indeed. I have used it a few times and not had any problems.

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Sep 9, 2012 20:40:06   #
ringo Loc: australia
 
DEBJENROB wrote:
Edmund Dworakowski wrote:
If you're shooting a $1600 camera and a $1200 lens, why would you cheap out for a plastic grip to save <$100 ?
It's like using a $25 tripod...


If you are reffering to me .... I have the Nikon Battery Pack .... but the Bower battery pack is much cheaper than the Nikon and it will have no effect on your photo .... however, a $25 tripod could collapse and damage the camera ... I could spend $200 for a camera bag(which I have) but it does the same thing as a $30 bag on E-Bay ....
quote=Edmund Dworakowski If you're shooting a $16... (show quote)

thank you DEBJENROB,I could not have put it better

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Sep 10, 2012 01:14:10   #
Edmund Dworakowski
 
when your sheap plastic battery grip doesn't go click when you press the shutter release, it effects the quality of the picture too. Reliability costs $$ too.

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Sep 10, 2012 01:21:02   #
rcirr Loc: Gilbert, Arizona
 
I'm no photographer. In fact, according to some of the professional wedding photographers who have posted in this forum, I am a creature one level below pond scum.....I am the dreaded uncle with a camera! Having established my bona fides....there is something I don't get. If you are not interested in this discussion, why do you bother posting? If you don't like this forum, why keep coming here? I love taking pictures and have almost no knowledge of photography. I have found this forum full of good information and interesting to read. I think you're being a little over critical of the people here. Lighten up and enjoy!

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Sep 10, 2012 01:43:07   #
BHC Loc: Strawberry Valley, JF, USA
 
Jamers wrote:
Noticed in one of my photo magazines a distributor company called Omega Brandess. Among other items, the D-800 and Canon Mk 3 as well as other camera models battery grips were advertised. The D-800 and Canon MK 3 grip was $129.99, D-7000, $92.95, D-200, $136.95 (premium series). The ad states two EN-EL type batteries, with vertical buttons like the Nikon/Canon grips have. Nikon's vertical D-800 grip is $450.00. Any suggestions as to quality, and performance with these grips?


Those battery grips are made by Phottix, which has a long history of supplying remote lighting accessories; the battery grip appears to be a new product in the company's line. It is also distributed by Outdoor Photo Gear (http://www.outdoorphotogear.com/store/ ) which is rated "A" by the BBB. Does anyone have any experience with OPG or Phottix?

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Sep 10, 2012 02:20:27   #
ringo Loc: australia
 
Edmund Dworakowski wrote:
when your sheap plastic battery grip doesn't go click when you press the shutter release, it effects the quality of the picture too. Reliability costs $$ too.


I think that's good advice Ed,nobody is asking you to use the sheap grips.

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Sep 10, 2012 07:56:13   #
Edmund Dworakowski
 
Then I'll keep my Bah Bah'd advice to myself...

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Sep 10, 2012 20:35:47   #
ringo Loc: australia
 
Edmund Dworakowski wrote:
Then I'll keep my Bah Bah'd advice to myself...


good to see you haven't lost your humor Ed.I enjoyed your comments,just didn't agree with them on this subject,I'm sure in the future there will be subjects where we see eye to eye. regards ringo

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Sep 11, 2012 02:14:56   #
Boobarf Loc: Kyle, TX
 
Like anything I read or view, I take it in, think through the different information and viewpoints and then I make the most logical decision that meets my needs. No hate on any input or opinion, including those who may not like the site. Opinions and advice are a dime a dozen, everybody has one. What makes all the opinions and advice valuable is what you do with them in order to help you learn. I'm just saying-------

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Oct 29, 2012 17:08:31   #
rcirr Loc: Gilbert, Arizona
 
madcapmagishion wrote:
saichiez wrote:
I just don't get this discussion at all. People go out and buy Nikons and Canons because they "think" they are the best. Then they go out and buy third party lenses and accessories which are mostly house branded and made by who knows who????

Surely you know that you can glue a red button on the front of any camera and about 2-3 people who see it in the next year will actually think you have a Leica....OOOOOH!

Why aren't you all going out and buying NO Name house brand cameras in the first place. Hauling around a Nikon or Canon is NOT a status symbol to non photograpners (roughly 95% of the population.Since throwing performance of a premium product out the door by the purchase of cheap NON OEM attachments is of no concern why pony up for the "real thing" in the first place.

"I bought a new BMW, but I had MY Mechanic put a third party catalytic converter on it, third party rotors on the brakes and cheap Bosch Platinum spark plugs in it. It runs like shit but it's a BMW"

Get the drift. Did anyone catch my post that third party grips/battery holders and 3rd party batteries are often blamed for poor AF performance. Does anybody even care if the camera takes a longer time to focus, or doesn't catch focus.

Frankly that's one of the reasons I really dislike UHH.

Many ask questions. Many respond with WAG (Wild Ass Guesses) or actual good information, and it appears that no one asking the questions even listens. This is a trend here, and I hope many of you are not actually relying on the information you are reading on UHH, other than a few.. .like Captain C (And I bet even he is frustrated)
I just don't get this discussion at all. People go... (show quote)


If Nikon actually made a battery grip for my D3100 I would buy it no doubt, but they don't. So I am stuck with the aftermarket manufactuers to supply what I really need.
I don't buy any non Nikon lenses and probably never will. I have my kit Nikon 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6G AF-S DX VR (that came with the D3100) and then got the Nikon 55-300mm f/4.5-5.6G ED VR AF-S that I use as my main walk around lens, and lastly bought my Nikon 50mm f/1.8G AF-S. I have also bought a spare Nikon EN-EL14 Rechargeable Li-Ion Battery. (not a cheaper knock-off)
saichiez wrote:
Get the drift. Did anyone catch my post that third party grips/battery holders and 3rd party batteries are often blamed for poor AF performance. Does anybody even care if the camera takes a longer time to focus, or doesn't catch focus.
I am wondering though how a 3rd party grip would affect AF performance?
quote=saichiez I just don't get this discussion a... (show quote)


I am not a camera tech but a guess might be due to improper voltage to the focus circuit? I also have Nikon (D5100 and D50). The D50 was easier to deal with because the after market batteries worked directly. I did load test on them and found they were fine. When I got the D5100 the after market batteries wouldn't work so I had to but a cheap grip to make it work. The cost of the grip and the two after market batteries cost me less than 1 new Nikon battery. The grip works fine although it obviously cheaply made. I only use it when I anticipate needing a lot of power.
As far as using the after market stuff affecting my pictures.....some after market stuff is crap and some is really quite good. You just have to do your research and accept that once in a while you'll get a lemon!

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Oct 29, 2012 17:39:43   #
madcapmagishion
 
rcirr wrote:
madcapmagishion wrote:
saichiez wrote:
I just don't get this discussion at all. People go out and buy Nikons and Canons because they "think" they are the best. Then they go out and buy third party lenses and accessories which are mostly house branded and made by who knows who????

Surely you know that you can glue a red button on the front of any camera and about 2-3 people who see it in the next year will actually think you have a Leica....OOOOOH!

Why aren't you all going out and buying NO Name house brand cameras in the first place. Hauling around a Nikon or Canon is NOT a status symbol to non photograpners (roughly 95% of the population.Since throwing performance of a premium product out the door by the purchase of cheap NON OEM attachments is of no concern why pony up for the "real thing" in the first place.

"I bought a new BMW, but I had MY Mechanic put a third party catalytic converter on it, third party rotors on the brakes and cheap Bosch Platinum spark plugs in it. It runs like shit but it's a BMW"

Get the drift. Did anyone catch my post that third party grips/battery holders and 3rd party batteries are often blamed for poor AF performance. Does anybody even care if the camera takes a longer time to focus, or doesn't catch focus.

Frankly that's one of the reasons I really dislike UHH.

Many ask questions. Many respond with WAG (Wild Ass Guesses) or actual good information, and it appears that no one asking the questions even listens. This is a trend here, and I hope many of you are not actually relying on the information you are reading on UHH, other than a few.. .like Captain C (And I bet even he is frustrated)
I just don't get this discussion at all. People go... (show quote)


If Nikon actually made a battery grip for my D3100 I would buy it no doubt, but they don't. So I am stuck with the aftermarket manufactuers to supply what I really need.
I don't buy any non Nikon lenses and probably never will. I have my kit Nikon 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6G AF-S DX VR (that came with the D3100) and then got the Nikon 55-300mm f/4.5-5.6G ED VR AF-S that I use as my main walk around lens, and lastly bought my Nikon 50mm f/1.8G AF-S. I have also bought a spare Nikon EN-EL14 Rechargeable Li-Ion Battery. (not a cheaper knock-off)
saichiez wrote:
Get the drift. Did anyone catch my post that third party grips/battery holders and 3rd party batteries are often blamed for poor AF performance. Does anybody even care if the camera takes a longer time to focus, or doesn't catch focus.
I am wondering though how a 3rd party grip would affect AF performance?
quote=saichiez I just don't get this discussion a... (show quote)


I am not a camera tech but a guess might be due to improper voltage to the focus circuit? I also have Nikon (D5100 and D50). The D50 was easier to deal with because the after market batteries worked directly. I did load test on them and found they were fine. When I got the D5100 the after market batteries wouldn't work so I had to but a cheap grip to make it work. The cost of the grip and the two after market batteries cost me less than 1 new Nikon battery. The grip works fine although it obviously cheaply made. I only use it when I anticipate needing a lot of power.
As far as using the after market stuff affecting my pictures.....some after market stuff is crap and some is really quite good. You just have to do your research and accept that once in a while you'll get a lemon!
quote=madcapmagishion quote=saichiez I just don'... (show quote)


So I guess the moral of the story is not to use 3rd party batteries, in your 3rd party battery grip. Which I don't, I have heard to many horror stories! I bought my D3100 Photix battery grip off of Amazon and it works great. And the fit and finish is much better than I expected.

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