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Aug 20, 2019 15:07:36   #
Gianfranco47 Loc: Senoia GA
 
i have more than 45000 slides made many years ago and i want duplicate it with digital files , i have nikon cameras D3 and nikon bellows with dia holder , see picture without camera
i started to work but i cannot duplicate the whole dia format , i'm using a 55mm micro NIKKOR and i can take the duplicate only for the center of the dia , more or less 75% of the whole dia format , is it question of lens used or something also...........
i tried to move lens and dia holder on trail without any change .
your suggestion will be velcome


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Aug 20, 2019 15:20:42   #
robertjerl Loc: Corona, California
 
Gianfranco47 wrote:
i have more than 45000 slides made many years ago and i want duplicate it with digital files , i have nikon cameras D3 and nikon bellows with dia holder , see picture without camera
i started to work but i cannot duplicate the whole dia format , i'm using a 55mm micro NIKKOR and i can take the duplicate only for the center of the dia , more or less 75% of the whole dia format , is it question of lens used or something also...........
i tried to move lens and dia holder on trail without any change .
your suggestion will be velcome
i have more than 45000 slides made many years ago ... (show quote)


My personal opinion, you would be better off using a dedicated slide and negative scanner. You don't mention the format of the slides - 35 mm? - but there are scanners that do 120/220 film and slides. There are also scanners that have auto feed so you can put in a stack and do other things while they scan. At first you may have to change settings and re-scan some but once you have it down pat so that everything is easily correctable in PP software you will find it goes much easier.

I still have 2 Miranda Sensorex bodies and lenses in a box and the billows "slide duplicator" for them. I used it once for less than 100 slides and put it away, it was a royal pain in the a$$ to use. After that I just bought the paper and chemicals to make prints directly from my slides. Now I have a 35 mm slide and negative scanner and do a few at a time. I only have a few hundred 12/220 negs and slides and will do them on a flatbed. I really should clear a spot, use the old spare desktop to run the show and store the images and get them all done. About 15-20 of those document file boxes full of slides (2 boxes), negatives and prints from myself, my wife/her family, my family etc. Even a couple of prints from the late 1800s. However the prizes among those disappeared from my Dad's house in the 90s. He suspected one of my stepmother's nephews who wasn't trusted by anyone on both sides of the family. The real gem was a full length portrait of my Great Grandfather's date to his Senior Prom in the late 1870s. It was a positive on metal and the young lady was in Victorian high fashion complete with brass headed lady's walking stick, jacket, floor length skirt and wide brimmed hat with ostrich plum. One summer Dad and I went through the old family photos and it was there, the next summer when I visited he said he was giving me all the old photos to keep - we looked through them one last time together and the old ones were almost all gone. A couple months before they had hired the kid to help with painting and yard work then they fired him when Dad caught him taking stuff from the garage.

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Aug 20, 2019 15:51:27   #
olsonsview
 
Try a longer lens. The amount of extension with your rig with the micro set at infinity may still be magnifying beyond what is needed. So a crop is ocurring?

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Aug 20, 2019 18:48:22   #
RWR Loc: La Mesa, CA
 
Gianfranco47 wrote:
i have more than 45000 slides made many years ago and i want duplicate it with digital files , i have nikon cameras D3 and nikon bellows with dia holder , see picture without camera
i started to work but i cannot duplicate the whole dia format , i'm using a 55mm micro NIKKOR and i can take the duplicate only for the center of the dia , more or less 75% of the whole dia format , is it question of lens used or something also...........
i tried to move lens and dia holder on trail without any change .
your suggestion will be velcome
i have more than 45000 slides made many years ago ... (show quote)

To determine the focal length needed, we need to know the minimum extension of the bellows.

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Aug 20, 2019 20:32:51   #
BebuLamar
 
What is the Dia?

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Aug 20, 2019 22:02:02   #
Gianfranco47 Loc: Senoia GA
 
there are dias in 35 mm , the minimum estensione of the bellows ic appor 1.5 cm slight more than 1/2 inch, i do not want to use my scanner since i'm shooting in NEF (Nikon RAW) so i can modify everything in Photoshop , i also tried to use a 85mm without any success

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Aug 20, 2019 22:26:30   #
RWR Loc: La Mesa, CA
 
Gianfranco47 wrote:
there are dias in 35 mm , the minimum estensione of the bellows ic appor 1.5 cm slight more than 1/2 inch, i do not want to use my scanner since i'm shooting in NEF (Nikon RAW) so i can modify everything in Photoshop , i also tried to use a 85mm without any success

1.5cm sounds more like the folds in the bellows. The minimum extension will be the distance from the lens flange to the camera flange, with the bellows racked as tight as it will go. Can you verify this?

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Aug 21, 2019 14:35:35   #
dgilliam
 
dia - diapositiva is slide in Italian

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Aug 21, 2019 14:41:07   #
robertjerl Loc: Corona, California
 
dgilliam wrote:
dia - diapositiva is slide in Italian


Oh! I'll take that with pepperoni, onions and black olives please.

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Aug 21, 2019 14:47:39   #
BebuLamar
 
the Manual said using a normal or 55mm micro. So it should work for you.

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Aug 21, 2019 15:06:08   #
fetzler Loc: North West PA
 
I am not sure why you have a bellows at all. If you have a micro-Nikor lens it should focus to 1:1 the position of the slide holder is adjusted to focus. This assumes you have FF camera. Magnification would be less for APS-C. Your bellows appears to be too long.

Having said the above the suggestions to use a scanner of some sort is well worthwhile.

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Aug 21, 2019 16:09:02   #
BebuLamar
 
I noticed that you use a Nikon D3 which you may not be able to mount on the bellow without the extension tube. The extension tube makes the minimum magnification too high.

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Aug 21, 2019 17:38:44   #
chasgroh Loc: Buena Park, CA
 
fetzler wrote:
I am not sure why you have a bellows at all. If you have a micro-Nikor lens it should focus to 1:1 the position of the slide holder is adjusted to focus. This assumes you have FF camera. Magnification would be less for APS-C. Your bellows appears to be too long.

Having said the above the suggestions to use a scanner of some sort is well worthwhile.


...I have a little apparatus that holds 3 slides and fits on the end of an 18-70 Nikkor...I used it with my D300 and it worked fine. <shrug>

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Aug 21, 2019 18:26:24   #
GoofyNewfie Loc: Kansas City
 
fetzler wrote:
I am not sure why you have a bellows at all. If you have a micro-Nikor lens it should focus to 1:1 the position of the slide holder is adjusted to focus. This assumes you have FF camera. Magnification would be less for APS-C. Your bellows appears to be too long.

Having said the above the suggestions to use a scanner of some sort is well worthwhile.


That particular lens goes to 1:2.
He would need a PK-13 extension to go 1:1.
It’s 27.5 mm thick.
The bellows is WAY too much extension.

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Aug 21, 2019 19:20:38   #
imagemeister Loc: mid east Florida
 
Yes, shorter bellows or longer lens ....

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