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Aug 19, 2019 08:50:12   #
Peter Boyd Loc: Blyth nr. Newcastle U.K.
 
pmsc70d wrote:
I haven't looked at the negatives for my wedding photos before. Hey, we had the album, right? But I have been scanning in old negatives and came to these. I'm using an Epson V600. It is extremely finicky, but I can usually make it work. But not on these negatives. When I took a second look, I realized that there are three odd things about the film. It has sprockets on only one edge, there are dark lines instead of transparent lines between frames, and although the film itself is 35mm, the pictures are smaller than usual 35mm pictures on negatives, almost square. They were taken by a professional photographer. Has anyone seen this kind of film before? This is from (ahem) 45 years ago.
I haven't looked at the negatives for my wedding p... (show quote)


As others have rightly said, this is 126 film from a Kodak cartridge used in Instamatic cameras. It would not be used by a pro. photographer, these cameras were bottom end of the market designed for point and shoot photographers whose camera was probably only used for holidays and at Christmas.

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Aug 19, 2019 09:37:20   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
Peter Boyd wrote:
As others have rightly said, this is 126 film from a Kodak cartridge used in Instamatic cameras. It would not be used by a pro. photographer, these cameras were bottom end of the market designed for point and shoot photographers whose camera was probably only used for holidays and at Christmas.


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Aug 19, 2019 10:22:32   #
GoofyNewfie Loc: Kansas City
 
Peter Boyd wrote:
As others have rightly said, this is 126 film from a Kodak cartridge used in Instamatic cameras. It would not be used by a pro. photographer, these cameras were bottom end of the market designed for point and shoot photographers whose camera was probably only used for holidays and at Christmas.


Contaflex made a 126 SLR with interchangeable lenses. There was also the Kodak Instamatic reflex with interchangeable lenses. Their attempt at making a high end Instamatic.

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Aug 19, 2019 10:40:58   #
Peter Boyd Loc: Blyth nr. Newcastle U.K.
 
GoofyNewfie wrote:
Contaflex made a 126 SLR with interchangeable lenses. There was also the Kodak Instamatic reflex with interchangeable lenses. Their attempt at making a high end Instamatic.


Neither of which was very successful, professionals just wouldn't touch them.

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Aug 19, 2019 11:05:04   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
pmsc70d wrote:
I haven't looked at the negatives for my wedding photos before. Hey, we had the album, right? But I have been scanning in old negatives and came to these. I'm using an Epson V600. It is extremely finicky, but I can usually make it work. But not on these negatives. When I took a second look, I realized that there are three odd things about the film. It has sprockets on only one edge, there are dark lines instead of transparent lines between frames, and although the film itself is 35mm, the pictures are smaller than usual 35mm pictures on negatives, almost square. They were taken by a professional photographer. Has anyone seen this kind of film before? This is from (ahem) 45 years ago.
I haven't looked at the negatives for my wedding p... (show quote)


Oh, yeah. That is Kodak size 126 Instamatic cartridge film from the mid-1960s. Kodak's greatest success in camera history was the Instamatic camera series. I still have an Instamatic 104 I got for Christmas in 1965. It is a classic point-and-shoot from that era.

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Aug 19, 2019 11:21:03   #
Alafoto Loc: Montgomery, AL
 
CWGordon wrote:
I am sure it is 126. I don’t doubt the expertise of so many of you. However, I wondered also if APS-C might have looked similar? I have no idea, having never looked at the actual film. I did have a cheap UW camera that used the stuff.
Good morning to some people I haven’t heard from in quite some time!


APS film was narrower than even 35mm film. Required a special device to remove the film from its original cassette to a special one for developing, and then to wind back into the original one for printing. Was a pain in the keester for photo labs techs.

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Aug 19, 2019 12:34:08   #
DaveD65 Loc: Queen City, Ohio
 
Way back when, late 60's or early 70's I owned a 35mm 1/2 frame camera. I don't remember brand, but it would fill half the 35mm frame per shot. I liked it because I could get 72+ shots from one 35mm roll of film. It was a view camera and had a light meter built in. You could choose an apature and the camera would set the shutter speed, it had asa settings and was a decent camera. Worked really well with the Tri-X B$W film. ??

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Aug 19, 2019 12:46:55   #
photoman022 Loc: Manchester CT USA
 
robertjerl wrote:
It looks like 126 film, mostly used in Kodak Instamatic but Contaflex, Kodak, Zeiss and others made SLRs for it including higher end ones with changeable lenses. The black is because the borders were pre-exposed.



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Aug 19, 2019 12:50:19   #
nadelewitz Loc: Ithaca NY
 
There WERE 126 Instamatic cameras that were better instruments than the cheapies. Maybe the wedding photographer used one in addition to his/her 35mm gear.

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Aug 19, 2019 12:52:44   #
Kozan Loc: Trenton Tennessee
 
melismus wrote:
Instamatic--but from a professional?


Instamatic was no where near 35mm.

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Aug 19, 2019 13:13:47   #
nadelewitz Loc: Ithaca NY
 
Kozan wrote:
Instamatic was no where near 35mm.


No, but a handy Instamatic could get a quick candid shot easily, in ADDITION to the 35mm.

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Aug 19, 2019 13:42:50   #
CWGordon
 
Interesting to learn even more about the original APS-C.

Thank you

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Aug 19, 2019 15:35:44   #
robertjerl Loc: Corona, California
 
Peter Boyd wrote:
Neither of which was very successful, professionals just wouldn't touch them.


We get people on here with all kinds of "non-pro" cameras, some they just got and want to know what settings to use for scheduled "gigs" in only a day or two. They heard of photography last week and are going "pro" tomorrow!

In the days of film it wasn't as common, but I heard stories of "pros" hired out of the Penny Saver (remember that free advertising rag?) at the cheapest rate possible who were about as professional as the average 6th grader.

At our wedding in '73 the guy we hired had an assistant and they were using two Hasselblads that cost more than my car. They did not come cheap, but they were worth it. We did not put out Instamatics but some of the guests had their own and some fairly high end SLRs. We didn't have to pay for a reception and photographer there because the grocery company we worked for had their regional Christmas/Holiday Season party that night and told us to just show up with our wedding guests - they even did an announcement for us when the party started. So our reception had several hundred people, a band and was in the ballroom of the largest hotel in the area. When we were leaving they even presented us with a bottle of Italian Sparkling Wine picked by the manager of the liquor department of the store where we worked, Italian Champagne without the French name - he was a friend and the president of the CA Wine Tasters Association. The only "Champagne" I ever tasted that I liked.

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Aug 19, 2019 15:37:36   #
robertjerl Loc: Corona, California
 
DaveD65 wrote:
Way back when, late 60's or early 70's I owned a 35mm 1/2 frame camera. I don't remember brand, but it would fill half the 35mm frame per shot. I liked it because I could get 72+ shots from one 35mm roll of film. It was a view camera and had a light meter built in. You could choose an apature and the camera would set the shutter speed, it had asa settings and was a decent camera. Worked really well with the Tri-X B$W film. ??


I still have one in a box somewhere - Olympus Pen - got it in the PX in Nam to carry in my pocket.

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Aug 19, 2019 17:58:34   #
John_F Loc: Minneapolis, MN
 
Do these negatives have color. My Epson scanner allows you to crop the Preview copy before the final scan, so what you posted could become 4 separate images. Presumably, you would want to do different color/brightness adjustments in PP.

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