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Aug 12, 2019 10:48:20   #
riderxlx Loc: DFW area Texas
 
bellgamin wrote:
So far I've learned:
SD=Secure Digital. SDHC=Secure Digital High Capacity. SDXC=Secure Digital eXtended Capacity
UHS-I=Ultra High-Speed Phase-I

Four questions:

Q1- Are all types of SD cards shockproof, temperature-proof, waterproof, and X-ray-proof? If not, which cards are, & which are not?

Q2- In your OPINION, which size would be more prudent for a novice to buy (for non-movies): 2 32GB cards OR 1 64GB card?

Q3- In your OPINION, which type would be more prudent for a novice to buy (for non-movies): SD, SDHC, or SDXC?

Q4- In your OPINION, which size & type memory card would be *okay* for a novice shooting movies?

Aloha from Hawaii,
Bill
So far I've learned: br SD=Secure Digital. SDHC=Se... (show quote)


Bill;
You have received some very good opinions and advise from the members here.
Novice or Pro does not matter. I shoot RAW + JPEG fine always and use a 16gig CS card. Shot all day, hundreds of shots, never filled up the card. I have a point'n shooter for video and pictures, have a 16 and recently got a 32, never filled up either one after all day shooting. I do not do long videos but, the only way you can tell what will work for you is to just do as the others suggested, get a 16 and a 32 card and see which one works for you. Unless you are taking some very long videos, either should be fine. Good luck.
bruce in Texas.

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Aug 12, 2019 10:53:43   #
DirtFarmer Loc: Escaped from the NYC area, back to MA
 
bellgamin wrote:
...Four questions:

Q1- Are all types of SD cards shockproof, temperature-proof, waterproof, and X-ray-proof? ...


Nothing is proof against extremely high levels of shock, temperature, x-rays, or water at high pressure. Where are you planning to use your card?


bellgamin wrote:
...Q2- In your OPINION, which size would be more prudent for a novice to buy (for non-movies): 2 32GB cards OR 1 64GB card?


2 32 GByte cards should suffice unless you really take a lot of photos at one time. It really all depends on how often you dump your files into your computer.


bellgamin wrote:
Q3- In your OPINION, which type would be more prudent for a novice to buy (for non-movies): SD, SDHC, or SDXC?

Q4- In your OPINION, which size & type memory card would be *okay* for a novice shooting movies?...


For a novice, probably the ones that cost the least. As a novice, you will be learning. When you learn enough you will have sufficient information to make a decision then.

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Aug 12, 2019 16:23:50   #
bellgamin Loc: Ewa Beach, Hawaii
 
Lots of great counsel in this thread. Thanks to everyone. UHH folks are amazing!

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Aug 13, 2019 06:56:19   #
SuperflyTNT Loc: Manassas VA
 
Scruples wrote:
Memory cards tend to get expensive. Here is why, the faster they read and write data, the more expensive they get. The larger the size in memory capacity the more expensive they get. So many people like to use, format and reuse cards. IMHO, this is fool-hardiness. Every time a card is formatted, the images are deleted. DUH! I have lost count of the number of tragedies by friends and fellow Hoggers Who have told me how they formatted the wrong card. And photos from Timmy's fifth birthday party where his two front teeth had fallen out are lost. Well, that isn't entirely correct but everyone suffers enough anxiety and anguish to keep a Psychotropic Pharmaceutical Manufacturer in profits for the next five years. My advice here is: DONT FORMAT YOUR USED MEMORY CARDS.
Memory cards tend to get expensive. Here is why, t... (show quote)


Horrible advice. Storing images on an array of different memory cards is not only a waste but makes it very difficult to catalog your shots. If I need to find pictures of Timmy’s teeth falling out I’d rather just find it using a keyword search than going through a bunch of old SD cards.

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Aug 13, 2019 07:05:34   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
bellgamin wrote:
So far I've learned:
SD=Secure Digital. SDHC=Secure Digital High Capacity. SDXC=Secure Digital eXtended Capacity
UHS-I=Ultra High-Speed Phase-I

Four questions:

Q1- Are all types of SD cards shockproof, temperature-proof, waterproof, and X-ray-proof? If not, which cards are, & which are not?

Q2- In your OPINION, which size would be more prudent for a novice to buy (for non-movies): 2 32GB cards OR 1 64GB card?

Q3- In your OPINION, which type would be more prudent for a novice to buy (for non-movies): SD, SDHC, or SDXC?

Q4- In your OPINION, which size & type memory card would be *okay* for a novice shooting movies?

Aloha from Hawaii,
Bill
So far I've learned: br SD=Secure Digital. SDHC=Se... (show quote)


Q1 - From what I have read, SD cards are all of the above. They have been removed from cameras floating the sea for years and still produced good images.

Q2 - I use both 32 and 64GB cards, but the 64GB is overkill.

Q3, Q4 - Lots of links -
http://improvephotography.com/676/9-things-photographers-need-to-know-about-memory-cards/
https://www.apotelyt.com/photo-memory/sd-card-formatting
http://digicamhelp.com/accessories/memory-cards/why-format-a-memory-card/
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/explora/photography/buying-guide/fastest-memory-cards-money-can-buy
http://www.cameramemoryspeed.com/
https://www.slrlounge.com/handle-sd-cards-to-minimize-data-loss/
http://digital-photography-school.com/13-tips-for-using-and-caring-for-memory-cards/
http://www.cameramemoryspeed.com/
https://www.ephotozine.com/article/top-10-best-sd-memory-cards-tested-2015-17827
http://www.howtogeek.com/189897/how-to-buy-an-sd-card-speed-classes-sizes-and-capacities-explained/

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Aug 13, 2019 07:08:32   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
SuperflyTNT wrote:
If I need to find pictures of Timmy’s teeth falling out I’d rather just find it using a keyword search...


"Brat," "ugly" "toothless," repulsive," "annoying nephew," etc.

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Aug 13, 2019 10:05:44   #
xt2 Loc: British Columbia, Canada
 
bellgamin wrote:
So far I've learned:
SD=Secure Digital. SDHC=Secure Digital High Capacity. SDXC=Secure Digital eXtended Capacity
UHS-I=Ultra High-Speed Phase-I

Four questions:

Q1- Are all types of SD cards shockproof, temperature-proof, waterproof, and X-ray-proof? If not, which cards are, & which are not?

Q2- In your OPINION, which size would be more prudent for a novice to buy (for non-movies): 2 32GB cards OR 1 64GB card?

Q3- In your OPINION, which type would be more prudent for a novice to buy (for non-movies): SD, SDHC, or SDXC?

Q4- In your OPINION, which size & type memory card would be *okay* for a novice shooting movies?

Aloha from Hawaii,
Bill
So far I've learned: br SD=Secure Digital. SDHC=Se... (show quote)


Please, go on-line to do some research of your own. There are so many wonderfully informative, unbiased, and professional reviews/comparisons, it will make your choice so easy...

Cheers!

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Aug 13, 2019 10:10:13   #
xt2 Loc: British Columbia, Canada
 
bellgamin wrote:
So far I've learned:
SD=Secure Digital. SDHC=Secure Digital High Capacity. SDXC=Secure Digital eXtended Capacity
UHS-I=Ultra High-Speed Phase-I

Four questions:

Q1- Are all types of SD cards shockproof, temperature-proof, waterproof, and X-ray-proof? If not, which cards are, & which are not?

Q2- In your OPINION, which size would be more prudent for a novice to buy (for non-movies): 2 32GB cards OR 1 64GB card?

Google will tell you what you want to know... an example regarding X Rays vs. SD Cards is:
https://havecamerawilltravel.com/photographer/memory-cards-airport-security-scanners/


Cheers!

Q3- In your OPINION, which type would be more prudent for a novice to buy (for non-movies): SD, SDHC, or SDXC?

Q4- In your OPINION, which size & type memory card would be *okay* for a novice shooting movies?

Aloha from Hawaii,
Bill
So far I've learned: br SD=Secure Digital. SDHC=Se... (show quote)

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Aug 13, 2019 10:11:16   #
ronaldwrightdallas
 
you should purchase the fastest card designated as the card your camera accepts and supports. with my a7r3 I get the sdxc type ii 300 read speed card for one of the card slots and a fast but lesser sdxc type I for the other slot as specified by the camera manufactor. I chose 64 gb cards but have never even came close to using all the space.
you need the faster speed to utilize all of the features of the camera which you will probably want to use at some point that you own the camera.

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Aug 13, 2019 11:04:50   #
nadelewitz Loc: Ithaca NY
 
bellgamin wrote:
So far I've learned:
SD=Secure Digital. SDHC=Secure Digital High Capacity. SDXC=Secure Digital eXtended Capacity
UHS-I=Ultra High-Speed Phase-I

Four questions:

Q1- Are all types of SD cards shockproof, temperature-proof, waterproof, and X-ray-proof? If not, which cards are, & which are not?

Q2- In your OPINION, which size would be more prudent for a novice to buy (for non-movies): 2 32GB cards OR 1 64GB card?

Q3- In your OPINION, which type would be more prudent for a novice to buy (for non-movies): SD, SDHC, or SDXC?

Q4- In your OPINION, which size & type memory card would be *okay* for a novice shooting movies?

Aloha from Hawaii,
Bill
So far I've learned: br SD=Secure Digital. SDHC=Se... (show quote)


Q1 there are no mechanicals in a memory card, so they are shockproof. X-rays do not affect memory cards. Maybe waterproof, maybe not. What are you going to do, bake it? Dry it in your laundry?

Q2 multiple smaller drives is safer than one huge one. Spreads your data out over more devices in case one dies unexpectedly, or gets lost

Q3. novice is irrelevant. The size determines what class it falls in.

Q4. Camera makers seem to recommend faster cards for video. Class 6 at least, 10 better.

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Aug 13, 2019 11:16:01   #
BlueMorel Loc: Southwest Michigan
 
Memory cards sometimes fail, though rarely. I use 16G SDHC Sandisk cards and keep spares. I am unlikely to return to many of our vacation places and swap out cards daily. The most I would lose on a bad card would be a day's worth of shooting, sad but not disastrous. I do take my laptop on vacation and upload and backup daily. I only reformat the card after checking the card in camera to make sure I really did upload off of it.
I've seen posts on here about cards failing but it has never been due to airports, water, etc, but rarher random, probably more likely due to age or manufacture.

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Aug 13, 2019 11:44:48   #
Fredrick Loc: Former NYC, now San Francisco Bay Area
 
Scruples wrote:
From my limited experience, today's memory cards are almost indestructible. However, don't abuse them to prove this point. With proper care, all memory cards are impact resistant, temperature resistant, water proof and X-Ray resistant. These have come a long way when they were first conceived. With that being written, several companies have devised absolutely indestructible memory cards with metal instead of plastic housings. IMHO, this is a superior waste of money. If you take good care of your camera and memory card, there will be no problems down the road. My advice here is: TREAT ALL MEMORY CARDS AS WELL AS YOU TREAT YOUR CAMERA.

Memory cards tend to get expensive. Here is why, the faster they read and write data, the more expensive they get. The larger the size in memory capacity the more expensive they get. So many people like to use, format and reuse cards. IMHO, this is fool-hardiness. Every time a card is formatted, the images are deleted. DUH! I have lost count of the number of tragedies by friends and fellow Hoggers Who have told me how they formatted the wrong card. And photos from Timmy's fifth birthday party where his two front teeth had fallen out are lost. Well, that isn't entirely correct but everyone suffers enough anxiety and anguish to keep a Psychotropic Pharmaceutical Manufacturer in profits for the next five years. My advice here is: DONT FORMAT YOUR USED MEMORY CARDS. It seems to me to be more prudent to buy several cards.

When I am buying some gear, I head over to the memory card section. Invariably, there is s sale on some memory cards. I'll buy one or two and throw it in my bag. My advice here is: BUY A FEW MEMORY CARDS. Yes, I know they get expensive. But my anxiety medication has worn off years ago. LOL.

Size does matter!
I tend to buy 32GB or 64 GB cards. I would cry if I lost my 128GB or 256GB memory card with photos of everything. Watching a grown man cry is not a pretty sight. I have different sizes from different manufacturers in several card cases all nicely labeled. It is definitely a hodgepodge of cards. More about size capacity later on. The purpose of high capacity cards is so you don't keep putting a fresh card in. Who cares, it's only money.

The SDXC type cards seem to do very well. But this all falls back on what I have wrote up to now. The same caveats still apply. The extended capacity versus the high capacity is pretty much the same as extended release tablets versus delayed release tablets. Go figure that one out b

Finally, I won't recommend a specific manufacturer because I am not getting endorsed to recommend a particular brand. Some photographers change card manufacturers as frequently as they change underwear. So photographers are much more loyal. As for me, I buy cards that are on sale.

Now, movies get complicated. You generally need one or two high capacity cards. I am writing about a card that is 128 or 256 GB in size. You will need something that writes data fast. You will need space to edit on the card. Plan on using it once only. Refer to what I wrote earlier, please. Finally, they get extremely expensive. Perhaps as expensive as a three course meal for four at a top rated five star restaurant. Another option would be to buy several 64GB cards and stitch the video together. Then we get right back to the cost issue.

There is no right or wrong card. There is no particular manufacturer that is better than another. There is no perfect read/write speed. There is no perfect capacity. There are so many different ones. There is no particular card for everyone. I can only wish I have another 4 decades of life to try them all.

Happy Shooting!
From my limited experience, today's memory cards a... (show quote)


When I get home from a shoot, the first thing I do is put my camera on my desk where my laptop is. It’s a reminder to me that I have images to download. Once I download my images to the Pictures folder on my laptop, I browse through them to make sure they’re all there.
Once I’m satisfied that they’re all there, I FORMAT my memory card in my camera. I see no reason to keep going out and buy new memory cards. Aside from the added expense, I wouldn’t know which images were on which memory cards. Sounds a little like a nightmare to me. How would you know which cards were used, which were new, unless you kept them separate or marked them, etc?
Why go through the hassle. I guess I’m missing something here, IMHO.

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Aug 13, 2019 12:57:57   #
dick ranez
 
It's easier to swap a SD card than to try to recover files from a larger one (insert size here). I always try to estimate how much shooting I'll do on any given day and then use an appropriate sized card. I never re-use cards, but consider them much like film negatives and file them away. I back them up after the shoot on an external hard drive(s) and store post processed images in yet another directory. Seems to work well for me, others may have differing opinions. (I don't have a QXD system yet, but with the ridiculous prices for media, may not get one for a while)

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Aug 13, 2019 13:36:29   #
chapjohn Loc: Tigard, Oregon
 
Delkin Black Sd cards. Read their warranty it is good.

https://www.delkindevices.com/delkin-black/

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Aug 13, 2019 16:14:35   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
bellgamin wrote:
So far I've learned:
SD=Secure Digital. SDHC=Secure Digital High Capacity. SDXC=Secure Digital eXtended Capacity
UHS-I=Ultra High-Speed Phase-I

Four questions:

Q1- Are all types of SD cards shockproof, temperature-proof, waterproof, and X-ray-proof? If not, which cards are, & which are not?

Q2- In your OPINION, which size would be more prudent for a novice to buy (for non-movies): 2 32GB cards OR 1 64GB card?

Q3- In your OPINION, which type would be more prudent for a novice to buy (for non-movies): SD, SDHC, or SDXC?

Q4- In your OPINION, which size & type memory card would be *okay* for a novice shooting movies?

Aloha from Hawaii,
Bill
So far I've learned: br SD=Secure Digital. SDHC=Se... (show quote)


Please consult your owner's manual for this sort of information. It varies considerably from brand to brand and model to model.

Owners' manuals are available from your camera manufacturer's website. It may take a few minutes to locate, but they're there! B&H also has many popular models' manuals on their site.

That said...

A1- Shockproof: fairly. Temperature-proof: same specs as your camera can stand. Waterproof: Well... I have put two through a full laundry cycle. They still worked. X-ray-proof? Oh yeah! Airport security won't affect them. Now, if you irradiated them for several minutes, they would probably surrender, but you would have to be really well-equipped (and crazy) to do that.

A2- I'd probably use two 32GB cards for recording only stills.

A3- SD, SDHC, or SDXC? Remember film and film processing costs? Flash memory cards are a bargain at today's prices. If your camera supports SDXC, get the fastest one that works in it. But before you do, make sure your computer's internal card reader or your external card reader can handle
SDXC cards! One of my old computers cannot read them unless I put them in an external card reader. GET A USB 3 OR USB-C COMPATIBLE READER. It will save all kinds of download time! USB 2 crawls by comparison.

A4- I'd use SDXC for all video. I use 64GB SDXC cards for 4K and 1080P work up to 100Mbps and 200Mbps, respectively. In fact, they're the only cards I use. If a card is fast enough for video, it will drain the camera's still image buffer at maximum speed.

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