New D850 soon come.....lens selection help
Aug 10, 2019 14:33:25 #
Nikon D850 and 200-500mm Lens. Extremely good match if you are shooting wildlife.
Aug 10, 2019 15:05:28 #
Aug 10, 2019 15:26:40 #
tiphareth51
Loc: Somewhere near North Pole, Alaska
The Sigma Art series lenses are fabulous. I own the 14-24 and 24-70, both f2.8 art lenses. The Sigma Art series is worth taking a look at.
Aug 10, 2019 16:27:14 #
Although it was mentioned above, and in consideration of how you describe your interests, I would encourage a serious look at the Nikon 28-300 zoom. I have primes I love and use, but for a walk around lens that has you covered from 28 to 300 mm, it is a bargain, especially if you can get a refurbished by Nikon lens. As you expand your experience, go for the heavier, pricier, glass that fits your interests. If you want a prime for more telephoto work, that wont break the bank, consider the Nikon f4 300mm with a 1.4 tele-extender (giving you a 420mm reach). If you want a serious macro, consider the newer Tameron 90mm micro that comes with vibration control. (About $650 new). You will love the D850.
Aug 10, 2019 18:06:35 #
I have both of the tamron lenses. The G2 lenses are fantastic. If you want a very good macro, the Tamron 90mm 1:1 macro
Aug 10, 2019 20:01:23 #
Raybo wrote:
Tired of my cell phone taking better photos than a... (show quote)
I read all the replies.
The D850 + good glass is as good as it gets for DSLR tech.
But Nobody has addressed your first sentence: “Tired of my cell phone taking better photos than a "budget" oriented ASP-C camera “
Nothing for nothing but a new camera is not the answer to that. Save your money and spend some time to learn the camera you own. And the lenses. And take a class or few or read more about photography or both.
That will yield a much bigger payoff.
When you can identify specific limitations with your gear, then is the time to consider upgrading.
Just saying.
Aug 10, 2019 20:35:25 #
ButchS
Loc: Spokane, WA
The D850 is an FX camera. I have a D800 and a D810, my favorite all-purpose lens is the Nikon Nikkor 24-85mm F/3.5-4.5 G ED VR IF AF-S. It is a good overall focal length range, without being too big and heavy. It has VR (vibration Resistance) and is IF (internal focus), important if you use polarizing filters. The optical quality is very good. Actually, I would say outstanding. My only disappointment is that it is a G lens. Meaning, it has no separate aperture ring. But these days, that is par for the course for Nikon lenses. I don’t find it to be much of a problem. For me it’s just a philosophical difference.
Aug 11, 2019 01:26:07 #
vanderhala
Loc: Los Angeles, CA
I am trying to learn, and enjoy many threads . For my own education : from the OP list of lenses why would you choose an AF-S lens fir your expensive 850 camera that already has an internal focus system : doesn’t the AF-S motor negate that - I assume much better internal focus system ?
Aug 11, 2019 01:41:18 #
ButchS
Loc: Spokane, WA
The focusing motor in the camera body is primarily for backwards compatibility with the older, original, autofocus lenses. The focusing motor built into the newer lenses is much faster and much quieter. I have about a dozen Nikon autofocus lenses, most of which are the older style lenses. When I switch to one of the few silent wave motor lenses that I own, I can really tell the difference. The lenses with the silent wave motor are much faster focusing and exceptionally quiet. BTW That is what the “S” in AF-S stands for “Silent Wave Motor”. IF for “Internal Focus” has nothing to do with what part of the camera is determining the focus. Even manual focus lenses can be IF lenses. Internal focusing means that the front element of the lens does not rotate when the lens is being focused. This is important for filters like polarizers that the rotational position of the filter is important. Or for lenses that have square lens hoods, so the hood remains oriented the correct way. Cheers.
Aug 11, 2019 01:52:25 #
vanderhala
Loc: Los Angeles, CA
The focusing motor built into the newer lenses is much faster and much quieter. .. That is what the “S” in AF-S stands for “Silent Wave Motor”. IF for “Internal Focus” has nothing to do with what part of the camera is determining the focus. Even manual focus lenses can be IF lenses. Internal focusing means that the front element of the lens does not rotate when the lens is being focused. This is important for filters like polarizers that the rotational position of the filter is important. Or for lenses that have square lens hoods, so the hood remains oriented the correct way. Cheers.[/quote]
Thanks. I knew about the Silent Wave motor (I have several myself). I would think that a newer camera that has the focus mechanism inside the camera would focus faster than silent Wave motor. In fact I would think that the OP would rather look into AF-P than in AF-S lenses as they are faster to my understanding.
Internal focus lenses is as I understood and from your explanation different than Internal Focus mechanism of the camera (Maybe Nikon calls it something else than Internal Focus?). Thanks for your quick response.
Thanks. I knew about the Silent Wave motor (I have several myself). I would think that a newer camera that has the focus mechanism inside the camera would focus faster than silent Wave motor. In fact I would think that the OP would rather look into AF-P than in AF-S lenses as they are faster to my understanding.
Internal focus lenses is as I understood and from your explanation different than Internal Focus mechanism of the camera (Maybe Nikon calls it something else than Internal Focus?). Thanks for your quick response.
Aug 11, 2019 02:03:30 #
ButchS
Loc: Spokane, WA
tiphareth51 wrote:
The Sigma Art series lenses are fabulous. I own the 14-24 and 24-70, both f2.8 art lenses. The Sigma Art series is worth taking a look at.
The focal lengths you mention in your post are usually found on APS-C cameras, or what Nikon calls DX. The D850 is an FX or Full Frame sized sensor. Make sure the above mentioned lens product line is compatible with FX sensors.
For reference, DX sensors are 1/2 the size of an FX sensor.
APS was a film cartridge camera that was introduced by Kodak in 1996. It had some digital technology built into the film cartridge. But the film itself was a much older film format referred to as 1/2-35mm film. APS “advanced photo system”. The film was developed by a machine, and then rolled back into the original cartridge and returned to the customer. When the customer wanted reprints, they took the whole cartridge back to the photo processor.
Aug 11, 2019 02:18:00 #
ButchS
Loc: Spokane, WA
All of the auto focus cameras have the focusing mechanism inside the camera. Except the old Nikon F3, but that’s a different story. The focusing motor just turns the lens focusing gears for the camera. But the camera’s CPU always determines the focus. The motor is just the power to turn the lens. Putting the motor in the lens is actually better than using the motor in the camera body. This is because with some big zoom lenses require an enormous amount of torque to turn the focusing gears. This can be hard on the camera body’s motor.
Nikon has an in-body motor, primarily for backwards compatibility with their older lenses. If you look at new camera product lines, such as some of the new mirrorless cameras, they no longer have in-body motors. They all have linear motors in the lenses.
Nikon has an in-body motor, primarily for backwards compatibility with their older lenses. If you look at new camera product lines, such as some of the new mirrorless cameras, they no longer have in-body motors. They all have linear motors in the lenses.
Aug 11, 2019 02:22:30 #
vanderhala
Loc: Los Angeles, CA
(Butch) Nikon has an in-body motor, primarily for backwards compatibility with their older lenses.
Thanks again.
Thanks again.
Aug 11, 2019 02:23:07 #
ButchS
Loc: Spokane, WA
Even some of Nikons consumer class DSLR’s have no focusing motor in the body. They want the young new photographers to buy their newest DX lenses, that all have silent wave motors.
Aug 11, 2019 02:38:16 #
vanderhala
Loc: Los Angeles, CA
ButchS wrote:
Even some of Nikons consumer class DSLR’s have no focusing motor in the body. They want the young new photographers to buy their newest DX lenses, that all have silent wave motors.
Yes I know. I have D3200, thinking of trying to find D7200 (rather than D7500 )see all the spots on this).
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