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Aug 10, 2019 08:26:14   #
John Howard Loc: SW Florida and Blue Ridge Mountains of NC.
 
ahudina wrote:
I too shoot with the d 850. I would substitute the sigma 14-24 2.8 Art for the Nikon version. Read the reviews and use the savings for the Nikon 70 - 200, which warrants the stellar reviews. I am also very happy with my Nikon 24-70. Best of luck.


Alternatively substitute the 16-35 F4. For landscape how often do you shoot wide open and filtering the beastly 14-24 can be done but it is a pain and expensive.

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Aug 10, 2019 08:59:49   #
Dossile
 
The one lens I would buy first is the Nikon 70-200 2.8E. Don’t get one of the G versions still hanging around. It is a spectacular lens. Buying a Tamron or Sigma Art versus Nikon is a matter worthy for debate on other focal lengths. I have gravitated to a Nikon 20 1.8 for Astro and landscape because it is light, has minimal barrel distortion and shares filters with the 70-200. The 20 is on my camera quite a bit even though I use a Nikon 24-70 2.8E a lot as well. The new Tamron 24-70 should have been considered, but I have no photo store close and I needed to make a decision. I guess I am a sheep when it comes to Nikon lenses. I use a 200-500 for wildlife. Sigma Sport 150-600 was just a little bit bigger and heavier and more expensive, but would have been a good choice as well. I sold a Nikon 28-300 because it was soft on my D850.

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Aug 10, 2019 09:07:27   #
gvarner Loc: Central Oregon Coast
 
Not to be disrespectful but you have a $3000 camera body and you’re asking for opinions on what lenses to get? My advice would be to get the most expensive ones in all the available focal lengths. Then you’d have it covered.

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Aug 10, 2019 09:14:32   #
KR Pletzer
 
I have both of the Tamron lenses you list and am very pleased with them. The 24-70 is on my 850 about 60% of the time. The 70-200 about 25%. The remaining 15% is pretty much split between my Nikkor 200-500 and my Nikkor 105 Micro. I have other lenses, but these 4 are by far the most used. As for the 14-24 range, I have not yet pulled the trigger. Based on my research I am leaning toward the Tamron 15-30 G2. Happy shooting and enjoy your 850, it is a remarkable camera.

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Aug 10, 2019 09:18:07   #
camerapapi Loc: Miami, Fl.
 
Well, you are not going to find many people here that will argue against buying a Nikon D850, a very popular camera. You will find someone here and ,that is me, who will tell you that sharpness in images depend more on the operator than the camera or lens.
Entry level cameras are not built like a D850 but like the D850 they are capable of excellent images using a good lens and appropriate photographic techniques. More megapixels does not necessarily mean better images. Kit lenses are optically very good.

I only use Nikon lenses with my Nikon bodies. The 14-24 f2.8 is a superb professional lens if you want to spend the money. I agree with the gentleman that has suggested the 16-35 but that I leave to your choice. A Nikon 70-200 f4 VR is a great lens if you do not need the f2.8 and for landscapes you do not. Modern teles can do a lot of "macro" photography these days. Good luck with your choices.

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Aug 10, 2019 09:27:09   #
tcthome Loc: NJ
 
John Howard wrote:
Alternatively substitute the 16-35 F4. For landscape how often do you shoot wide open and filtering the beastly 14-24 can be done but it is a pain and expensive.

I agree if the op plans on using filters for landscape.

I am the same camp as you ( op ) when it comes to shooting interest.

I have been happy with the lens that I purchased when buying a D810 back in 2016. All Nikon,
14-24 , 105 macro , 70-200 vrII, & the 200-500. The fl version of the 70-200 came out 6 months after my purchase.

For me the 14-24 & the 200-500 are most used & the macro next. If you plan on using filters for landscape ( and plan on doing any considerable hiking ) you might want to get the 16-35 f4 for size & cost. Filter kits would be pretty big for the 14-24. All the Tamron g2 series lens get great reviews. When I add the 24-70 to my arsenal I will text ride the Tamron & probably make the purchase.
Either way , you can't go wrong with the list you have posted.

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Aug 10, 2019 09:44:39   #
Photec
 
SteveR wrote:
Are you talking about the current edition of these lenses? Is the VR edition of the 24-70 really necessary? He might save some money by going with the previous version there. However, the current version of the 70-200 would probably be his best bet there.

The 24-70 stays on my D800 most of the time.


I have the Nikon Triad in G. The 24-70G does not have VR, and was great thru the D810, however, I am now older and shaker and find that I get motion blur with it on the D850 so I had to get a 24-120G (latest ver). (earlier versions of the 24-120 are not good) I thought about the 24-70E, but it is very large and heavy and I need that focal range to be a walk around lens.

Let me also suggest an excellent pano lens, a Nikon 50mm 1.4 or 1.8. They are both very crisp on the 850, mount your camera on a tripod vertically and set your focus and exposure manually then shoot wide views rotating to overlap each shot by 1/3. Wall murals look fantastic with the D850 and 50f1.8.

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Aug 10, 2019 10:19:42   #
ELNikkor
 
Do you really need the range of 14-20? A Nikon 20 1.8 prime would be great for the night star shots, and whatever landscapes/interiors etc you might encounter. If wider is necessary, a 14mm Samyang is often used here with good results.

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Aug 10, 2019 10:29:41   #
Valen Loc: Canonsburg, PA
 
If I was going to do what you are proposing, I would instead be looking at aNikon Z6 or Z7. The 24-70 F2.8 Z has been reviewed as the best zoom of its kind. If you are interested in a wide zoom then I can recommend the Sigma Art 14-24 F2.8 which I use with the FTZ adapter. The photos and videos are outstanding.

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Aug 10, 2019 11:29:11   #
newvy
 
Make sure you include a 4 tb hard drive as well. That camera can make some huge files!!

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Aug 10, 2019 11:34:08   #
ksmmike
 
I shoot with a Nikon D750. For landscapes I use the Nikon 16-35 F4 and the Nikon 20mm 1.8. Mostly for weight and ease of use, I use the 20mm. I prefer it after owning both lenses for over a year, though I purchased the 16-35 instead of the 14-24. I have the Tamron, its an ok lens, but I prefer the Nikon 20mm for landscapes. I use filters for long exposures all the time on the 20mm.

Wildlife, I had the Nikon 80-400 and sold it. I replaced with the Nikon 300mm F4, again mostly because of the weight. I'm considering the Nikon 200-500mm lens, but I've read there can be a difference in copies of that lens that is substantial. You have to hope to get a good copy or send it back.

Bottom line, personally and only personally, I would take the Nikon 20mm 1.8 over the 14-24 all day long. For wildlife (depending on what type, meaning really long range or only sorta long range and I had unlimited funds) I'd get the Nikon 500 that is about to come out or save cash and get the 200-500 if you don't mind they weight. If you do, then get the 300mm F4 fresnal.. just my opinion from using them.

Mike

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Aug 10, 2019 11:44:20   #
rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona
 
Excellent choice on the camera. Your focal lengths and apertures on the lenses are very good. The only thing I'd tend towards is Nikkor optics. Leave the Tamron, etc. group out of your list of things to purchase.
--Bob
Raybo wrote:
Tired of my cell phone taking better photos than a "budget" oriented ASP-C camera I bought last fall does. Took photos on vacation in NE last fall that were really good, pretty much properly exposed, but just lousy resolution...

So, about to pull the trigger on a D850. Looking for feedback on the lens selection I'm looking at to get started with to put together a starter kit.

Interests are as follows:

1. Landscape...sunrise, sunset, mountains (valleys) when on vacation I live on an island (very small and flat), so SR/SS with and without clouds is a primary source of opportunity.

2. Low light night, moon, lightning.

3. Macro....but none of the lenses below apply. For a later discussion.

4. Wildlife

5. All the rest...really have somewhere between little, and no, interest in people being in my images. (Wife of 37 years and 32 year old daughter excepted)

Have little to no loyalty to "name brand" lenses...if it works, and is more economical, all the better.

I'm not a "professional", but I am, by nature, critical, so want something in >85% range on quality

These are what I'm looking at to get started with on the D850:.

Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 14-24mm f/2.8G ED

Tamron 24-70mm F/2.8 G2 Di VC USD G2

Tamron SP 70-200mm f/2.8 Di VC USD G2

Any and all comments and constructive criticism welcome

Cheers
Tired of my cell phone taking better photos than a... (show quote)

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Aug 10, 2019 12:08:08   #
nikonbrain Loc: Crystal River Florida
 
Raybo wrote:
Tired of my cell phone taking better photos than a "budget" oriented ASP-C camera I bought last fall does. Took photos on vacation in NE last fall that were really good, pretty much properly exposed, but just lousy resolution...

So, about to pull the trigger on a D850. Looking for feedback on the lens selection I'm looking at to get started with to put together a starter kit.

Interests are as follows:

1. Landscape...sunrise, sunset, mountains (valleys) when on vacation I live on an island (very small and flat), so SR/SS with and without clouds is a primary source of opportunity.

2. Low light night, moon, lightning.

3. Macro....but none of the lenses below apply. For a later discussion.

4. Wildlife

5. All the rest...really have somewhere between little, and no, interest in people being in my images. (Wife of 37 years and 32 year old daughter excepted)

Have little to no loyalty to "name brand" lenses...if it works, and is more economical, all the better.

I'm not a "professional", but I am, by nature, critical, so want something in >85% range on quality

These are what I'm looking at to get started with on the D850:.

Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 14-24mm f/2.8G ED

Tamron 24-70mm F/2.8 G2 Di VC USD G2

Tamron SP 70-200mm f/2.8 Di VC USD G2

Any and all comments and constructive criticism welcome

Cheers
Tired of my cell phone taking better photos than a... (show quote)


Thom Hogan recommends you stick to the list by Nikon as close as you can on approved lenses .Your choice of The 14mm - 24mm 2.8 is great for landscapes , astro work and the combination of the two ... nice star effects of the sun with sunrises and sunsets when stopped down at f11 to f16 I shoot at both apertures with the D810 to get depth of field from 3 feet and out without diffraction that can be mostly sharpened out , of coarse the d850 has stack focus so this is not a problem for you . The reason for using the approved list is because this much resolution demands good glass .

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Aug 10, 2019 12:44:30   #
photoman43
 
With a high resolution sensor on your D 850 you need the best lenses you can afford for the types of pictures that you most take. Go to this link to see EJ Peiker's recommendations for the best lenses by brand in his quarterly newsletter, Quack.

https://ejphoto.com/Quack%20PDF/Quack%20Summer%202019.pdf

After you have digested that, read up on best shooting techniques when using any camera with a high resolution sensor. If your techniques are weak, no lens, no matter how much you spend, will give you best results.

Steve Perry is a good source of solid info for Nikon shooters. See this:

https://backcountrygallery.com/nikon-d850-review/

And hid ebook on AF is worth it.

Joe

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Aug 10, 2019 13:16:26   #
Real Nikon Lover Loc: Simi Valley, CA
 
My D850 is matched to the Nikon 14-24, 24-70, 70-200 and 200-500. My walk around lens is 28-300. I also have the 1.4 teleconverter. All crank out crisp, sharp photos.

When I went to Alaska 2 years ago (before I had the D850 and lenses), I saw several landscape photographers all using their Nikon D5s & D810s with the 70-200 lens.

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