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Aug 8, 2019 22:24:29   #
E.L.. Shapiro Loc: Ottawa, Ontario Canada
 
In 1968 I worked as a newspaper photgraher in Montreal. On a slow and HOT news day in Summer, the editor would dispatch me to the park or the beach to shoot kids in the wading pools- folks at the beaches, etc. Back in the day, the parents would encourage their kids to "splash around in the water for the photographer". They would come over and ask when the pictures would be published and ask if they could buy copies of the unpublished ones for themselves.

Nowadays, I wouldn't be caught dead with a camera in any of those locations- a park, beach or playground where there are kids. I'm sure someone would call the police or attack me.

If I need to work at any of those locations on a commercial job, I don't take on the assignment unless the area is cordoned off, we use professional models, and all the paperwork, permits and releases have to be in order.

One day, not long ago, I have hired to photograh the exterior of a building that's housing a recreation center. Two women and a security guard accosted me and said: "what are you doing- there are children in that building"! There was not a child in sight and I assured them that I did not have an X-ray camera that could see through the concrete walls. The security guard looked hostel so I told him I was going to call the police if did not step away. Then I produced the work order from the city that authorized me to photograh the building. They apologized and walked away!

It's disgusting. I suppose what with the proliferation of child pornography and so many reported cases of pedophilia caused criminal activities, folks have begun to equate certain kinds of perfectly legitimate and proper photogray with voyeurism and child molestation.

It's certainly is a sad commentary but it is now ingrained in our society along with many other serious misconceptions.

So... randomly shooting kids in the playground, even the "bathing beauties at the seaside" is a thing of the past. Forgetaboutit!

Yes! There are bad guys out there and we all have to be vigilant and protect our kids and all kids. It's just that some folks tend to indiscriminately "profile" others who they don't even know and oftentimes jump to the wrong conclusions.

My coping mechanism is simple. I concentrate on what I am allowed to photograph, not what is restricted, prohibited, forbidden or will cause undeserved grief. There's lots of stuff to shoot out there and plenty of folks who love being photographed.

Unfortunately and seriously- this is nothg to joke about- it's a real problem.

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Aug 8, 2019 23:16:03   #
SnappyHappy Loc: Chapin, SC “The Capitol of Lake Murray”
 
Longshadow wrote:
Yup, and yup.

Had to come in when the street lights came on...


We didn’t have street lights... be home by dark or I’ll beat you death...simple instructions even a kid could understand

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Aug 8, 2019 23:23:15   #
rook2c4 Loc: Philadelphia, PA USA
 
Personally, I avoiding taking photos of children I don't know. But I don't understand the logic behind protecting children in this manner. Social media is full of pics of children, uploaded by their parents, grandparents, etc.

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Aug 8, 2019 23:24:10   #
SnappyHappy Loc: Chapin, SC “The Capitol of Lake Murray”
 
Longshadow wrote:
Yup, and yup.

Had to come in when the street lights came on...


Didn’t have street lights in good ole Rome...my instructions were easy to understand... be home by dark or I’ll beat you to death as soon as I find you. That made sense enough to me me that I got home in time to live another day. Now that I think about it this probably began my love of sunset light. My Mama was teaching me to appreciate light...and it worked too!

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Aug 8, 2019 23:43:36   #
Rolk Loc: South Central PA
 
Longshadow wrote:
Yup, and yup.

Had to come in when the street lights came on...


You had street lights????

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Aug 9, 2019 05:27:42   #
PhotoNat Loc: Santa Maria, CA
 
I'm really glad you took a photo of him, especially if he was acting oddly. At one time I was a crossing guard working for a temp agency, not a school district, and saw a suspicious looking young gentleman hanging out at the school fence. He had been hanging out near the corner where I was helping kids cross, and I asked if I could help him. He didn't answer, but rode his bicycle over to the school fence a short distance from me and hung out. I could not leave(and did not have a cell phone at the time) right then, but went and called police as soon as I could and reported this. He had left by then, but at least authorities knew about it, and I'm sure he knew I was watching him carefully. So, thanks again for your awareness and sensitivity to the situation, and for taking action by taking the photo.! I'll ask people in my condo complex "If I can help them" if I don't recognize them or their car or they seem suspicious, and have even asked people to leave the premises if they did not have a valid reason for being here.
PhotoNat

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Aug 9, 2019 05:40:18   #
BebuLamar
 
That is why my photographs don't have a soul in it. People are so paranoid today so they always do selfie.

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Aug 9, 2019 06:41:09   #
Capn_Dave
 
It brings to mind https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRrjpWeyYGI

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Aug 9, 2019 06:50:34   #
catchlight.. Loc: Wisconsin USA- Halden Norway
 
JD750 wrote:
This appeared on my neighborhood social media site:

“Hi all, I’m a babysitter in the neighborhood and witnessed some suspicious activity at the Costanso Fire Station 84 Park. There was an older man taking photos of children through the fence at the park. When I asked him what he was doing he responded with - “I remember when my kids were that young”. As he continued taking photos I took out my phone and took one of him. Please be careful at this park and others in general. I’ve encountered some interesting people here before but this was over the line. When you’re at a park it’s not only extremely important to keep an eye on your kids but the environment around them as well. I’m a caregiver and have to be proactive when I have children under my care. I have an obligation to bring attention to things that seem out of the ordinary. He didn’t seem like he was a photographer or a passerby that was admiring kids at play. His behavior was bizarre. Just trying to inform everyone to be aware! “

There were many replies. The general tone was supportive. Two typical replies that stuck with me are included below:

“Sorry, it's creepy and inappropriate. If you're a photographer, there are plenty of other ways to take pics of children, i.e, kids of friends, relatives etc. For me, taking pics of random kids is a reason to be suspicious. There are to many pedophiles around. It's our job to protect our kids, better over protective than not enough and something happen. This will be the next guy you see on the news being arrested for having thousands of pics of kids on his computer. Good looking out girl!!”

“In today’s world No one should be taking photos of any children they do not know through a gated fence in a public park period. That gate is open and if it is a father/grandfather he could have gone inside to take photos of his kids.”
This appeared on my neighborhood social media site... (show quote)


You may be correct, but guilty before being proven innocent may apply.

Maybe spend time trying to convince your legislators to get the weapons of war off the streets, and out of the hands of children and madmen...

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Aug 9, 2019 07:03:05   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
SnappyHappy wrote:
We didn’t have street lights... be home by dark or I’ll beat you death...simple instructions even a kid could understand

And somehow, we respected that!

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Aug 9, 2019 07:06:01   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
Rolk wrote:
You had street lights????


I lived in a big city for about a dozen years before moving to the
"country". Turned out I was born a country boy!

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Aug 9, 2019 07:07:08   #
BebuLamar
 
Longshadow wrote:
And somehow, we respected that!


Not respect that but just don't want any trouble.

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Aug 9, 2019 07:18:23   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
BebuLamar wrote:
Not respect that but just don't want any trouble.

Yeaaaa, that too.

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Aug 9, 2019 07:20:41   #
Heather Iles Loc: UK, Somerset
 
rehess wrote:
I’m not certain why you posted this.


To remind photographers or people taking photos that photographing children they do not know is unacceptable in today's world.

I am a grandmother and would not dare take photos of children I do not know without asking the person who is looking after them. I was on a day out the other week with my photographic group and was taking a photo of the grand house with the entrance leading up to this house when children appeared and would have been in my photo. I immediately put my camera at my side until the children past with their teachers following. Ask yourself the question, how would you feel if it was your children, grandchildren, nieces or nephews being photographed by strangers? Would you be pleased?

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Aug 9, 2019 07:26:56   #
BboH Loc: s of 2/21, Ellicott City, MD
 
Rongnongno wrote:
Great answer and I relate to this... "Stay out of the house until we call you!!!"


And - "Come in when the street light lights go on"

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