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Aug 3, 2019 09:11:06   #
gemofnj
 
editorsteve wrote:
I have done QA in electronics. These days, with so much functionality on a chip, there are not many components so the left side of the bathtub curve tends to be less daunting. But as noted, slight assembly errors can cause shorts or local heating issues.


Thank you Steve. The camera has never been dropped and gets great care.

I just thought maybe it was something I did.

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Aug 3, 2019 09:15:55   #
olemikey Loc: 6 mile creek, Spacecoast Florida
 
Najataagihe wrote:
Being in the IT field for the last longest, I can tell you that I will not guarantee any electronic component until it has been running for six months.

If there is a defect, it will nearly always die in those first six months.

After that, they will run for decades, barring electrical spikes, heat, water intrusion or physical damage.

Heat is the real killer, followed by dirty power.

Unless it is in a portable device (like our cameras), physical damage is a rare event.


Yes indeed.... and, anyone can have a batch of "bad or early failure" boards in a production run.....bad boards are usually spotted early on, prior to or during assembly or test cycles, the early board failures can sting you once the product is "on the streets".

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Aug 3, 2019 09:19:16   #
BebuLamar
 
Najataagihe wrote:
Being in the IT field for the last longest, I can tell you that I will not guarantee any electronic component until it has been running for six months.

If there is a defect, it will nearly always die in those first six months.

After that, they will run for decades, barring electrical spikes, heat, water intrusion or physical damage.

Heat is the real killer, followed by dirty power.

Unless it is in a portable device (like our cameras), physical damage is a rare event.


That is why it's so profitable to sell extended warranty. The extended warranty doesn't cover the early phase and only cover the period where problem is least likely to happen.

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Aug 3, 2019 09:22:59   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
BebuLamar wrote:
That is why it's so profitable to sell extended warranty. The extended warranty doesn't cover the early phase and only cover the period where problem is least likely to happen.


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Aug 3, 2019 09:31:34   #
rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
 
gemofnj wrote:
Recently my D500, (still under warranty,) LCD screen went black. The metering window was also blank.

Plus and minus buttons on the left side were also stock.

All this and unfortunately happened right before my puffin trip!

I Had to rent a D500 from borrow lenses.com for my puffin trip, and I can tell you I wasn’t very happy about losing my gear for this trip.

After two weeks of waiting, they told me that the circuit board was bad.

Has anyone else had this problem? They didn’t explain how or why this happened.
Recently my D500, (still under warranty,) LCD scre... (show quote)
”Infant mortality” can happen to any electronics - that is main reason for warranties.

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Aug 3, 2019 09:54:21   #
editorsteve
 
Exactly. Nothing you would have done is a likely cause. Btw, there may have been a repair delay because Nikon got a lot of failures back from the field and needed more.time and more tested parts to fix a bunch of returned cameras.

I tracked a case for a client years ago. Humidity in the circuit board plant was slightly off and was the likely cause of thousands of failures months later.

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Aug 3, 2019 10:07:42   #
olemikey Loc: 6 mile creek, Spacecoast Florida
 
"Just in time" manufacturing supply lines can be an issue when a production batch is bad. Since the 1980's it is rare for any manufacturer to "warehouse" materials and sub-assemblies, the materials are literally delivered days or sometimes even hours/same day/next day for insertion into mfg. line. It is a wonderful cost/efficiency methodology for any manufacturer....but in the case of larger scale failures, it can induce shortages, delay builds, and mean short supply for repair/warranty work.

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Aug 3, 2019 11:30:36   #
n4jee Loc: New Bern, NC
 
Infant mortality is the biggest problem with any electronic item. They will pass final inspection/test at the factory then fail after a short time of use. Buy a new TV, leave it on for the first 48 hours after you get it home. Use your new camera a lot when you first get it to try and get the bad components to fail while it's still under warranty.

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Aug 3, 2019 13:20:43   #
gemofnj
 
olemikey wrote:
Yes indeed.... and, anyone can have a batch of "bad or early failure" boards in a production run.....bad boards are usually spotted early on, prior to or during assembly or test cycles, the early board failures can sting you once the product is "on the streets".


Thanks ole Mikey ! 😃

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Aug 3, 2019 13:22:49   #
gemofnj
 
BebuLamar wrote:
That is why it's so profitable to sell extended warranty. The extended warranty doesn't cover the early phase and only cover the period where problem is least likely to happen.


I didn’t buy the extended warranty. Maybe be I should look into it. Thank you.

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Aug 3, 2019 13:24:44   #
gemofnj
 
editorsteve wrote:
Exactly. Nothing you would have done is a likely cause. Btw, there may have been a repair delay because Nikon got a lot of failures back from the field and needed more.time and more tested parts to fix a bunch of returned cameras.

I tracked a case for a client years ago. Humidity in the circuit board plant was slightly off and was the likely cause of thousands of failures months later.


Thanks a bunch Steve. 👍🏻

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Aug 3, 2019 13:55:34   #
AirWalter Loc: Tipp City, Ohio
 
gemofnj wrote:
Recently my D500, (still under warranty,) LCD screen went black. The metering window was also blank.

Plus and minus buttons on the left side were also stock.

All this and unfortunately happened right before my puffin trip!

I Had to rent a D500 from borrow lenses.com for my puffin trip, and I can tell you I wasn’t very happy about losing my gear for this trip.

After two weeks of waiting, they told me that the circuit board was bad.

Has anyone else had this problem? They didn’t explain how or why this happened.
Recently my D500, (still under warranty,) LCD scre... (show quote)


That might mean it had a cold solder joint. A minor repair.

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Aug 3, 2019 14:03:18   #
rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
 
gemofnj wrote:
I didn’t buy the extended warranty. Maybe be I should look into it. Thank you.
That is why they are so eager to sell them. Seldom used - past danger point - so they tend to be very profitable.

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Aug 3, 2019 14:18:04   #
gemofnj
 
AirWalter wrote:
That might mean it had a cold solder joint. A minor repair.


Thanks Walter. They said they are replacing the circuit board. Whatever that means. 😃

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Aug 3, 2019 14:19:00   #
gemofnj
 
rehess wrote:
That is why they are so eager to sell them. Seldom used - past danger point - so they tend to be very profitable.


Ok. Thanks. And the hope no more troubles.

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