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Aug 2, 2019 08:29:43   #
khorinek
 
Stick with your 18-55. If you need a wider shot or a close up shot, use your feet.

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Aug 2, 2019 08:40:37   #
mizzee Loc: Boston,Ma
 
So my walk around lens is a zoom, but, when I’m indoors, I use a prime 50mm equivalent. Why? I don’t need the reach and it’s better in lower light than my zoom. It’s also less conspicuous.

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Aug 2, 2019 08:53:17   #
ksmmike
 
I suggest you test it for yourself. I took 3 different lenses on the same walk around a mile loop at a nature park, but only used one lens at a time. Two were primes and one was a 28-300 zoom. Same subjects for the most part at about the same time of day. The images from the primes were better.

IMO, it really depends on what you are shooting. For walking around city streets on vacation, I would take the zoom almost every time if I could only take one lens. Thankfully, my health still allows me to be able to carry 3 and I take along 2 primes and a zoom usually when on vacation. I do tend the use both the primes and zooms on vacation.

For sports where I needed reach, I'd take a long prime. For landscapes and portraits, I'd only want a prime. Every lens has its place depending on what you're using the lens for during your shoot.

I'm not sure there is a right or wrong way, only your way.

Mike

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Aug 2, 2019 09:05:34   #
rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
 
Dossile wrote:
Prime lenses are lighter, smaller, sharper and have better low light capabilities. Prime lenses also force you to consider composition. You can’t just zoom to get close. You have to walk or ride to the optimal vantage point. With a DX Nikon, I would buy either a 18-200 or 18-300 as a walk around lens and a Nikon 35mm 1.8 prime lens for low light and portraits. If you like micro photography, a 105 mm 2.8 lens is great for DX cameras. Some people say to just bump up the ISO and don’t worry about fast glass, but with lower cost DX cameras high ISO shots in low light generate a lot of noise.
Prime lenses are lighter, smaller, sharper and hav... (show quote)

My photography improved when I discovered zoom lenses. With a prime lens I had to solve a puzzle - which combination of perspective and framing was close to what I wanted; with a zoom lens, I could choose the perspective I wanted and then zoom to the framing I wanted.

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Aug 2, 2019 09:06:36   #
ELNikkor
 
I also had questions like this, so I took my "ordinary, cheap, kit" 18-55 lens that came on my D5100 out and took some shots of some grass and dandelions in my back yard at the same aperture and distance as my 55 Micro-Nikkor prime. The shots with each lens were indistinguishable from each other. You don't need to make any excuses for your 18-55; it is sharp, has excellent color, and is far more versatile than any prime. Don't obsess over chart data, just concentrate on your own technique. The 35-cropped-in-to-55 scenario sounds arduous and tacky. The only reason for the 35 to be used would be for the wider aperture in low-light situations, not any perceived "sharpness" issues.

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Aug 2, 2019 09:13:36   #
Silverrails
 
Mac wrote:
I do not especially care for the one size fits all zooms that have a wide range of focal lengths.
I have a Nikkor AF 35-105mm f/3.5-4.5D that I use as a general purpose lens, but when shooting something specific I'l use a prime.


Yes, Prime Lens are very, very good indeed. I have the Nikon 35mm & 50mm 1.8g lens, specifically useful in "Low Light" and "Portrait" Photography. But I also own a Nikon 18-140 3.5-5.6 Lens, which I really enjoy as a "Walk-around" Lens.

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Aug 2, 2019 09:14:18   #
khorinek
 
ELNikkor wrote:
I also had questions like this, so I took my "ordinary, cheap, kit" 18-55 lens that came on my D5100 out and took some shots of some grass and dandelions in my back yard at the same aperture and distance as my 55 Micro-Nikkor prime. The shots with each lens were indistinguishable from each other. You don't need to make any excuses for your 18-55; it is sharp, has excellent color, and is far more versatile than any prime. Don't obsess over chart data, just concentrate on your own technique. The 35-cropped-in-to-55 scenario sounds arduous and tacky. The only reason for the 35 to be used would be for the wider aperture in low-light situations, not any perceived "sharpness" issues.
I also had questions like this, so I took my "... (show quote)


Agreed. Sometimes we tend to overthink things or create a problem where there isn't one.

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Aug 2, 2019 09:20:57   #
Spirit Vision Photography Loc: Behind a Camera.
 
Gene51 wrote:
Prime lenses are "usually" intended for full frame cameras, though there are a few exceptions like the 35mm F1.8, the 40mm Micro and the 85mm Micro. The primes are all very good. DX-only zoom lenses make up the rest of the lens offerings for DX cameras, and they range from very good to "meh".

But if you really want to compare, set the zoom to 35mm, or get a 50mm prime to use to compare the zoom at 50mm. When you crop an image you reduce the number of pixels, which results in an image of lower resolution. In most cases, the uncropped 18-55 images will be better than a cropped 50mm.

As far as a prime lens always being better than a zoom lens - you really need to carefully compare lenses at the same focal lengths and apertures - and you may find that there is not a lot of difference at F8 - there is no categorically better lens.

I shoot full frame cameras and have a collection of carefully selected prime and zoom lenses that have similar resolution and contrast, so that in most cases it's impossible to tell the difference at the same focal length and aperture.

Zooms seem to have a reputation that started with the early film era zooms, like the Nikkor 43-86 F3.5 lens which was simply awful. Almost as bad was the 18mm F2.8 prime, and the 300mm F4.5 prime all beautifully built but optically junk. Other poorly designed offerings from Vivitar, Soligor, Kiron and others didn't help much.
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There are many Vivitar and Kiron lenses that equaled or surpassed the OEM lenses of their time. And still perform quite well by today’s standards.

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Aug 2, 2019 09:38:08   #
Blair Shaw Jr Loc: Dunnellon,Florida
 
Gene51 wrote:
Prime lenses are "usually" intended for full frame cameras, though there are a few exceptions like the 35mm F1.8, the 40mm Micro and the 85mm Micro. The primes are all very good. DX-only zoom lenses make up the rest of the lens offerings for DX cameras, and they range from very good to "meh".

But if you really want to compare, set the zoom to 35mm, or get a 50mm prime to use to compare the zoom at 50mm. When you crop an image you reduce the number of pixels, which results in an image of lower resolution. In most cases, the uncropped 18-55 images will be better than a cropped 50mm.

As far as a prime lens always being better than a zoom lens - you really need to carefully compare lenses at the same focal lengths and apertures - and you may find that there is not a lot of difference at F8 - there is no categorically better lens.

I shoot full frame cameras and have a collection of carefully selected prime and zoom lenses that have similar resolution and contrast, so that in most cases it's impossible to tell the difference at the same focal length and aperture.

Zooms seem to have a reputation that started with the early film era zooms, like the Nikkor 43-86 F3.5 lens which was simply awful. Almost as bad was the 18mm F2.8 prime, and the 300mm F4.5 prime all beautifully built but optically junk. Other poorly designed offerings from Vivitar, Soligor, Kiron and others didn't help much.
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AMEN BROTHER........been there a few times.

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Aug 2, 2019 09:45:09   #
rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
 
Gene51 wrote:
Prime lenses are "usually" intended for full frame cameras, though there are a few exceptions like the 35mm F1.8, the 40mm Micro and the 85mm Micro. The primes are all very good. DX-only zoom lenses make up the rest of the lens offerings for DX cameras, and they range from very good to "meh".
I assume this statement was meant to be specific to digital Nikon.

Most Pentax digital prime lenses are "Limiteds", small 'DA' lenses built during the decade when APS-C was the only type of DSLR produced by them. Of course, there are still many 'Takumars', Asahi M42 lenses built in the days when all Pentax cameras were 35mm.

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Aug 2, 2019 10:07:21   #
camerapapi Loc: Miami, Fl.
 
If you have learned basic exposure you DO NOT need to shoot manual all the time. Auto apertures like Aperture Priority allows adjustments to the exposure and you have the choice of selecting an aperture for depth of field. Your kit lenses are optically very good lenses and how well they do depend more on you than on the lenses.

A 35mm lens when using the "digital factor" will end up with the approximate same field of view of a 50mm lens with a FX camera. Step back or just another step in front of the subject and all of a sudden you have two different perspectives. Not a significant difference using a 50mm lens against the view of a 55mm when those focal lengths are used with a FX body but using a DX or "cropped sensor" body the differences are significant because of the 1.5 digital factor. If you buy the 35mm f1.8 lens keep in mind that with your DX body it will give you the approximately same field of view of a 50mm lens with a FX body.

Finally, a prime usually has better optical performance than a zoom although for me that is irrelevant.

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Aug 2, 2019 10:56:01   #
Opsafari Loc: Roodepoort South Africa
 
mizzee wrote:
So my walk around lens is a zoom, but, when I’m indoors, I use a prime 50mm equivalent. Why? I don’t need the reach and it’s better in lower light than my zoom. It’s also less conspicuous.


It all depend really the nature of your photography and where and how you are going to present it, PC screen or print. My hobby is nature and wildlife and just can not walk up to a lion with a 50mm prime in Botswana wilderness! Therefore I have three zooms and two camera bodies. Even my kit lens is a short zoom which I use around the camp. I'm very happy with my selection of lenses. My son on the other hand is a wedding photographer and uses various fast primes also on two bodies.

You do get some very nice zooms with 2,8 but they are expensive and again it's what you want to photograph. Hope this helps.

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Aug 2, 2019 11:45:07   #
jackm1943 Loc: Omaha, Nebraska
 
Mister H wrote:
I have a Nikon D3400 with the two kit lenses. I also have a Nikon D80 I purchased from a member and still trying to learn that one (a bigger challenge). I generally use my 18-55mm lens on the D3400 for most of my shots. It covers the range most of the time. So my question is to the quality of a shot when using the zoom at 55mm or a prime 35mm lens. Aside from sharpness (based on what I think I've learned here), can the 35mm shot be cropped to equal what the 55mm got. Basically enlarging the 35mm shot to equal the 55mm. Do I end up with something just as good or better. Like many here, depending on the situation, I don't want to carry to much if possible. Sometime I can take everything. Hope I explained this properly. Thanks to this site, I kept my camera in manual mode yesterday for every shot for the first time (about 40) and overall did well. Need more practice, but I'm finally comfortable with manual mode.
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I prefer good quality zooms because they allow one to crop in camera instead of having to crop in PP or with one's feet. I want to find the desired perspective (camera location) first, then choose an appropriate zoom lens and do final crop in camera.

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Aug 2, 2019 11:46:48   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
jackm1943 wrote:
I prefer good quality zooms because they allow one to crop in camera instead of having to crop in PP or with one's feet. I want to find the desired perspective (camera location) first, then choose an appropriate zoom lens and do final crop in camera.


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Aug 2, 2019 13:39:11   #
kufengler Loc: Meridian, Idaho 83646
 
I have a Nikon D90 w/10-24mm zoom (I like it for photos of buildings in the city)
Also a Nikon D7100 w/18-200mm zoom (pictures of most anything else)
My latest is a Canon M50 w/18-150mm (this has for the most part the camera I use most)
The Mirrorless M50 is much lighter, smaller than the other 2 so it comes along on vacations, I'm very happy with the results from using it.
Primary lens would be better for most specialized situations but for my needs I'm happy with what I have.

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