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Jul 13, 2019 13:44:36   #
Rose42
 
Frank T wrote:
So basically, what I'm gleaning from the multiple posts from the right is that you support forcing your religious views on others.
That is truly interesting.


You glean wrong. But you would allow the team to force their views on supporting sexual perversions onto prospective team members. Such is "progressivism".

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Jul 13, 2019 14:43:29   #
shagbat Loc: London
 
dennis2146 wrote:
Sorry but there are large gatherings of people all around the world with no reports of violence. That has no bearing on whether or not God loves the rainbow. If you really get into the violence scene you will find that in law enforcement murders by gay people are among the most violent. A jilted gay lover often does not just stab their partner once or twice but numerous times to guarantee death. One shot from a firearm doesn't suffice but a number of them will guarantee not only death but satisfaction for the one jilted.

Also take a look at Romans 1-26-27. It is the New Testament and it is pretty clear that God speaks out against homosexuality. As in many other parts of the Bible the written word has been regarded as a suggestion from God rather than what He is really telling the reader. All too often, me included, we sinners like to say that God loves us and is a forgiving God. Whatever I do He will accept. In the final days we will all find out what He will accept or not.

Dennis
Sorry but there are large gatherings of people all... (show quote)


Sorry, I don't accept the bible as a source of reference as I'm an Atheist. Brought up as a christian, I understood the cult was about love, compassion, kind, etc, I've learned that it is only about hypocrisy and bigotry. If your god is forgiving, the homosexuals will be forgiven, he will not condemn them so why can't we all? It's none of our business.

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Jul 13, 2019 14:56:45   #
Frank T Loc: New York, NY
 
Rose42 wrote:
You glean wrong. But you would allow the team to force their views on supporting sexual perversions onto prospective team members. Such is "progressivism".


Obviously, the team didn't force their views on her. She opted out and left because her merciful loving God hates gay people and makes them that way just so real Christians have someone to hate too.

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Jul 13, 2019 15:02:13   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
shagbat wrote:
Sorry, I don't accept the bible as a source of reference as I'm an Atheist. Brought up as a christian, I understood the cult was about love, compassion, kind, etc, I've learned that it is only about hypocrisy and bigotry. If your god is forgiving, the homosexuals will be forgiven, he will not condemn them so why can't we all? It's none of our business.


What a wonderful way to look at life regarding things that you don't agree with. If only it was so simple as that. It must be nice to pick your view and then simply disregard everything on the planet that goes against your thinking. Nice.

I don't condemn gay people and if you have read any of my past posts on the subject I have a number of gay friends, male and female. I like them and we get along well because they are not the militant gays who push their sexual preference down my throat and tell me I HAVE to go along with their thinking. Actually I do not go along with their thinking and think that it goes against God's will. Having said that I freely acknowledge I am a sinner, always have been and always will be. I am certainly not perfect and if I had any feelings of homosexuality in me I might act on them. But surely you can acknowledge that there is a man and a woman in the picture to create offspring, to perpetuate the species.

I believe God will forgive those gay people who ask for forgiveness. But if they do not have that chance or if they continue to think what they do is perfectly fine with God they won't have that chance.

Dennis

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Jul 13, 2019 15:04:59   #
btbg
 
Frank T wrote:
So basically, what I'm gleaning from the multiple posts from the right is that you support forcing your religious views on others.
That is truly interesting.


On the contrary, we support not forcing your religious views on someone else, which is what the team tried to do. It wasn't the Christian who tried to force anything. It was the coaching staff and the political activists on the team that tried to force their believes on everyone else. How can you possibly not see that?

All she did is refuse to wear a uniform supporting their agenda. It was only one match, then they blackballed her permanently. That was not her choice, that was theirs.

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Jul 13, 2019 15:05:29   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
Frank T wrote:
Obviously, the team didn't force their views on her. She opted out and left because her merciful loving God hates gay people and makes them that way just so real Christians have someone to hate too.


Per your usual Frank you could not be anymore wrong than right now. My understanding is the team allowed her to try out but had absolutely no intention of taking her on. The reason was because of her Christian viewpoints. The team didn't want to look bad so gave her the try out and then said she would not work out. That gave them the ability to tell everybody they had given her a fair shot. But in reality they kept her off the team because of her Christianity. She would have chosen to play.

Don't you get exhausted from being so wrong all the live long day?

Dennis

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Jul 13, 2019 15:14:02   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
btbg wrote:
On the contrary, we support not forcing your religious views on someone else, which is what the team tried to do. It wasn't the Christian who tried to force anything. It was the coaching staff and the political activists on the team that tried to force their believes on everyone else. How can you possibly not see that?

All she did is refuse to wear a uniform supporting their agenda. It was only one match, then they blackballed her permanently. That was not her choice, that was theirs.




I agree totally. How can anyone in their right mind wear a uniform that suggests a certain sexual preference? That is actually what this rainbow bullshit is all about. Gays, lesbians and whatever are different from the rest of us ONLY in their sexual preference. That is it, just their sexual preference. Yet the Left goes all crazy to denigrate the rest of us for not praising the heroic stand for liberty these people are shoving down our throats. As I have said before there are people all around the world who actually have sex with sheep and goats, there are men and women who love to have sex with little girls and boys, some of them literally infants less than one year old. When does this stop? Why did the Left start pushing it on us to begin with? I don't care if somebody has sex with a sheep. I don't care if some guy has sex with another guy. But why must those of us who don't like it, don't think it appropriate, be forced to accept it. Imagine, a uniform displaying a sexual preference. Thank you Obama and Liberal Leftists everywhere who are trying to bring America to its knees little by little.

Dennis

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Jul 13, 2019 15:14:51   #
Rose42
 
Frank T wrote:
Obviously, the team didn't force their views on her. She opted out and left because her merciful loving God hates gay people and makes them that way just so real Christians have someone to hate too.


If she joined she would have had to participate in their support of perversion.

You're wrong about God as usual. Its the sin of the lifestyle homosexuals choose that He hates. He doesn't hate them nor does He make them choose to sin.

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Jul 13, 2019 15:25:50   #
Frank T Loc: New York, NY
 
btbg wrote:
On the contrary, we support not forcing your religious views on someone else, which is what the team tried to do. It wasn't the Christian who tried to force anything. It was the coaching staff and the political activists on the team that tried to force their believes on everyone else. How can you possibly not see that?

All she did is refuse to wear a uniform supporting their agenda. It was only one match, then they blackballed her permanently. That was not her choice, that was theirs.


I'm sorry but, being gay is not a religion and at the end of the day she was the one that couldn't accept the rules. If you're on the Red Sox, you don't get to wear a Yankee shirt.

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Jul 13, 2019 15:54:44   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
Frank T wrote:
I'm sorry but, being gay is not a religion and at the end of the day she was the one that couldn't accept the rules. If you're on the Red Sox, you don't get to wear a Yankee shirt.


Apples and oranges Frank and you know it.

Dennis

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Jul 14, 2019 17:17:59   #
Frank T Loc: New York, NY
 
dennis2146 wrote:
Per your usual Frank you could not be anymore wrong than right now. My understanding is the team allowed her to try out but had absolutely no intention of taking her on. The reason was because of her Christian viewpoints. The team didn't want to look bad so gave her the try out and then said she would not work out. That gave them the ability to tell everybody they had given her a fair shot. But in reality they kept her off the team because of her Christianity. She would have chosen to play.

Don't you get exhausted from being so wrong all the live long day?

Dennis
Per your usual Frank you could not be anymore wron... (show quote)


Let's say you're right.
Then why is it okay to not give Kaepernick his position back.
Do you only support the o es you agree with?
Aren't the issues the same?

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Jul 14, 2019 17:52:02   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
Frank T wrote:
Let's say you're right.
Then why is it okay to not give Kaepernick his position back.
Do you only support the o es you agree with?
Aren't the issues the same?


Frank give this a thought. If Kaepernick was truly an outstanding football player do you not think his team would put him out front and center as a quarterback? The truth of the matter is the Kaepernick is, from what I hear, a so-so player to begin with. His kneeling is costing the team millions of dollars as well as the NFL. I and many millions of people like me no longer go to football games because of players like him. These are spoiled players who make literally millions of dollars a year to play a sport. Yes it is popular and they were well liked. But when these spoiled idiots take a knee saying America isn't a good country or treats minorities bad then they are really full of shit. Kaepernick kneels and he pisses and moans. But that is all he does. What has he done as a positive for America? Has he used some of his millions as some sports figures do to help kids, build homes, create jobs for the needy? No on all of the above. He is a little rich bastard who got rich from whining and crying about the country that made him and thousands of other black men and women who are now richer than you and I will ever be.

Sorry but I just can't feel sorry for the little POS. If he quit kneeling and wanted to play football he might get a chance. But why should he be rewarded for screwing and biting the hand that feeds him?

Dennis

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Jul 14, 2019 18:23:16   #
Rose42
 
Frank T wrote:
Let's say you're right.
Then why is it okay to not give Kaepernick his position back.
Do you only support the o es you agree with?
Aren't the issues the same?


Not even close. Kaepernick was a second rate quarterback at best and his own teammates didn't like him. That was before his kneeling stunt.

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Jul 14, 2019 18:42:31   #
Frank T Loc: New York, NY
 
Rose42 wrote:
Not even close. Kaepernick was a second rate quarterback at best and his own teammates didn't like him. That was before his kneeling stunt.


You describe the soccer player exactly.
Yet you want them treated differently.
Why? Is it bigotry against lgbtq, bigotry based on race or is it that you dislike anyone that's not just like you.

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Jul 14, 2019 18:54:04   #
btbg
 
Frank T wrote:
I'm sorry but, being gay is not a religion and at the end of the day she was the one that couldn't accept the rules. If you're on the Red Sox, you don't get to wear a Yankee shirt.



That is correct, but if you are on the U.S. national team you should only have to wear the U.S. national uniform not a rainbow pride uniform. They were not wearing the national uniform, what is there about that that you can't understand.

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