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Jul 4, 2019 13:23:32   #
robertjerl Loc: Corona, California
 
StanMac wrote:
I have another question for truckers: Why does it take a driver 10 minutes and 10 miles of highway to pass another rig on a level, two-lane interstate?

Stan


Ever heard of speed limits.
Add in that you are talking about big-rigs, not sport cars. They need a lot of space to turn and accelerate slowly. Not like Hollywood and TV imply. Plus that big truck is not only high, so is its center of gravity try weaving in and out of traffic and you either roll it or smash some cars because the space you are moving into isn't big enough.

My Dad was a long haul trucker when I was in elementary school, I got to go on a short ride around town a couple of times. I used to listen to him and his friends talk about driving and when I can, I will slow, signal with my lights and open a space for a rig to change lanes safely*. Often some fool in a hurry will jump into the space I made for the truck, even when the truck is already moving into that space - they have delusions of immortality. Not to mention a complete lack of good manners and a highly inflated idea of their own importance.

*And surprise, surprise the trucker will then open a space for me to pull in front of him - or for someone else. What goes around, comes around. That includes courtesy.

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Jul 4, 2019 13:52:19   #
AirWalter Loc: Tipp City, Ohio
 
Dannj wrote:
...or anyone familiar with traffic regs:

I recently drove a stretch of about 10 miles on I-85 going south from Gaffney, SC. There’s construction going on and there were signs posted: “Trucks Use Left Lane”.
I can’t recall seeing that before. Anyone have an explanation?


I drove for 28 years and I use to hate that, but the reason they do that is because during construction they temporarily move the road over to the right which puts the right lane of traffic onto the shoulder. Those shoulders are not built to support the weight of all those trucks so they temporarily put trucks ib the left lane because of the weight. That's the only reason I'm aware of.

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Jul 4, 2019 13:55:41   #
AirWalter Loc: Tipp City, Ohio
 
byjoe wrote:
Normally in this case it involves a section where they constructed a temporary widening of the highway and the ground support is not strong enough for the big rigs weight thus have them stay on the permanent supported road or keep replacing the temporary strip when big rigs tear them up.


This probably a better explanation.

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Jul 4, 2019 14:10:24   #
AirWalter Loc: Tipp City, Ohio
 
StanMac wrote:
I have another question for truckers: Why does it take a driver 10 minutes and 10 miles of highway to pass another rig on a level, two-lane interstate?

Stan


Weight and momentum, and sometimes because of schedules. Truck drivers aren't out there on a joy ride. They have a whole trailer load of pallets of campbells soup or swinging beef and it scheduled to be at a certain warehouse for unloading at a certain time and while the truck is in route to that warehouse his dispatcher is already setting up another pickup as soon as he is scheduled to be empty. Over the road truck driving is a rough job. Don't believe the nonsense you see in movies and tv. People used to say there are too many damn trucks on the road; all that stuff should be moved by trains. Really, did you ever see a train backup to your local Walmart or Krogers to make sure all the shelves are full for the next time you go shopping? As far as weight and momentum are concerned it just takes a lot more time to get that 80,000 lb truck up to normal speed and to try and safely keep it there. People should learn to have a little patience with truckers; they aren't out there trying to piss people off on purpose. Help a truck diver once in awhile on the road, give them room to change lanes, signal them with your lights when it is safe to change lanes when you see their turn signals on and you will never find a better friend out there on the road. And when they blink their lights back at you after changing lanes they are thanking you for helping them.

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Jul 4, 2019 14:22:04   #
AirWalter Loc: Tipp City, Ohio
 
Bobby123 wrote:
I think some of these answers are correct. The temporary right lane is not strong or smooth enough to hold up 80,000 pound trucks so they move them to the left lane, which is usually the old permanent right lane. This keeps the trucks from bouncing and swaying so it is much safer.
Also, it often takes a long time for 2 big rigs to pass because they may have speed governors that hold them to a maximum speed and/or their load helps them on downhills but holds them back on inclines. It is very frustrating for cars that can go much faster and vary their speed much more easily, but the big guys have to pass sometime if they guy ahead is going slower. They are mostly pretty good about passing and moving over but sometimes they are jerks about it. In general, I find that truckers are much more aggressive and impolite now than they were 30 or 40 years ago.
I think some of these answers are correct. The te... (show quote)


I think you would find that 4 wheelers are more impatient and in a big hurry to get someplace. And whether you believe it or not most accidents between big trucks and 4 wheelers are caused by 4 wheelers. I know; I drove an 18 wheeler coast to coast for 15 years and then another13 years regional so I could be home every night. When you are going down the interstate and you setting up in the air at the height that truck drivers sit at and actually can see over the top of cars in front of you, you would not believe some of the stupid things that 4 wheelers do. When I finally quit driving and was back in a 4 wheeler I was scared to death and very uncomfortable driving a car again for about 1 1/2 or 2 years.

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Jul 4, 2019 15:38:25   #
StanMac Loc: Tennessee
 
Jerry, it happens on level ground.

If the passing rig can't pass in a minute or less, then they need to adjust their cruise control to match the passee so they won't cause a 10-mile traffic backup.

The stretch of I40 between Little Rock and Memphis is so full of trucks, all jockeying around at fractional miles per hour difference in speed, that the number of 10 mile passes has turned a 2 hour trip into 2 3/4 hours on several occasions.

Stan

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Jul 4, 2019 16:05:58   #
Dannj
 
StanMac wrote:
I have another question for truckers: Why does it take a driver 10 minutes and 10 miles of highway to pass another rig on a level, two-lane interstate?

Stan


It bothers me more when a car takes that long to pass a truck and will just ride along side it....probably the worst place to be...for miles.

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Jul 4, 2019 16:11:59   #
Dannj
 
AirWalter wrote:
I think you would find that 4 wheelers are more impatient and in a big hurry to get someplace. And whether you believe it or not most accidents between big trucks and 4 wheelers are caused by 4 wheelers. I know; I drove an 18 wheeler coast to coast for 15 years and then another13 years regional so I could be home every night. When you are going down the interstate and you setting up in the air at the height that truck drivers sit at and actually can see over the top of cars in front of you, you would not believe some of the stupid things that 4 wheelers do. When I finally quit driving and was back in a 4 wheeler I was scared to death and very uncomfortable driving a car again for about 1 1/2 or 2 years.
I think you would find that 4 wheelers are more im... (show quote)


I’m strictly a 4 wheeler and I agree with you. I do several trips a year of 1,000 miles plus and have nothing but respect for the folks who drive the big rigs. Sure, you run across a jerk once in a while, but by and large truckers get an undeserved bum rap.

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Jul 4, 2019 16:14:18   #
Dannj
 
Thanks to all for the responses to my original question...gave me few things I hadn’t thought of.
Safe travels to all👍

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Jul 4, 2019 18:33:54   #
robertjerl Loc: Corona, California
 
Dannj wrote:
It bothers me more when a car takes that long to pass a truck and will just ride along side it....probably the worst place to be...for miles.


I hate getting pinned behind a slower car and having to ride next to a truck. Once when that happened I got stuck right next to his right front wheel going through a two lane connector to another freeway. He ran over some debris dropped in his lane and his retread tire came apart and blew so he swerved and side swiped me with the front left corner of his trailer. It snagged my driver's side mirror and turned me toward the outside of the elevated connector road. I thought I was going over the side and roll 20 feet down to a lower connector in the interchange but my Astro Van stopped balanced on the high curb to the right of my lane. I got out carefully just as the driver came running back to see if I was OK. We then stood there waving people around my van and his rig while watching to see if my van would tip over and go down. He made a few comments about the cheap skates he worked for putting retreads on his tractor. The tow truck driver managed to drag my Astro back on the pavement. And when the Astro fired up and drove normally with a dribble of fluids as a trail the CHP officer who followed me to make sure I could drive home commented that he didn't know those little vans were that tough and he would go look at one since he was looking for something that would haul his wife and 4 kids in safety and comfort. (My Astro was set up with airline style Captain's chairs in the first two rows and a third row 3 passenger bench. It was roomy and comfortable with a large cargo space in the back.) I needed a new mirror, body work on the left front fender and a new oil pan and transmission housing, the old ones were cracked and leaking fluids. Hint, Astro Vans are not meant to balance on a curb on their oil pan and/or transmission housing. Then it turned out his insurance had expired the day before and the new policy with a different company didn't kick in until the next day. Neither of them would cover it so my company paid for my repairs and their lawyers went after his bosses in court.

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Jul 5, 2019 00:08:44   #
Fotoserj Loc: St calixte Qc Ca
 
Most likely so the truck will not travel on shoulder part of the road, and it is not uncommon

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Jul 5, 2019 19:54:43   #
truckincat
 
If the barriers are on the left side they put the trucks on that side because the driver is up higher and the barriers won't be in their periphery vision, thereby the trucks won't drift into the other lanes. If they put cars over there they see the wall out the corner of their eyes and steer to the right.

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