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Jun 28, 2019 11:32:32   #
tommystrat Loc: Bigfork, Montana
 
Kmgw9v wrote:
My wife, who would never before even consider carrying a camera, now produces remarkable, irreplaceable images of her grandkids with her iPhone8.
The phone camera naysayers are wrong.


Yes, they are - unless they are pixel peeping perfectionists seeking the Holy Grail of noiseless photography...just saying...

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Jun 28, 2019 11:39:34   #
Kuzano
 
The Apple ID (Security) system where the ID is on the Apple server, orphans a lot of phones that cannot be rendered usable without the original owner releasing the ID from Apple. Apple will not help on these phones for a new owner and They appear not to be "hackable". As a consequence of this relentless denial of Apple to keep perfectly usable phones in the "garbage heap", I have acquired an iPhone 8, and an iPhone X (both originally near $1000 phones, which have quite high MP camera's.

I simply do not intend to use either of these phones as telphone devices, but have found that the camera's and some of the tablet like features can still be used.

I paid $50 for the 8 and $100 for the X versions and, thus can carry shirtpocket high pixel count camera's for very little outlay. This also works for other phones that are not locked into carriers by IMEI number or contract.

It's unfortunate, but the cellular network systems are difficult to understand and transfer phones, but if one is not particular about all services on the network, many camera phones can be acquired cheaply and simply used as phones or even data acquisition/storage devices.

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Jun 28, 2019 11:52:42   #
bsmith52 Loc: Northeast Alabama
 
I love the images taken with my Note 8. The biggest limitation for me, with grandkids, is the movement. Which is where the D7100 and G7X ii fill the gaps. Never ashamed of showing my cell phone pictures.

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Jun 28, 2019 12:29:00   #
assman Loc: Grand Rapids, MI
 
The best camera is the one you have with you.

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Jun 28, 2019 12:31:01   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
tommystrat wrote:
Yes, they are - unless they are pixel peeping perfectionists seeking the Holy Grail of noiseless photography...just saying...


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Jun 28, 2019 12:31:16   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
assman wrote:
The best camera is the one you have with you.

Amen!

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Jun 28, 2019 12:37:09   #
chapjohn Loc: Tigard, Oregon
 
I recently had to get another mobile phone. I had the Moto Z2 (12 mp camera), I got the Moto Z4 (48 mp camera). I am not going to become a phonee.

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Jun 28, 2019 12:39:07   #
Chris T Loc: from England across the pond to New England
 
apolloshep wrote:
My wife has a Samsung Galaxy 10. She has no photography skills as far as a DSLR or how any of the settings are used. We went on a trip a while ago and she took a photo of a waterfall and the quality was excellent it looked as good as the picture I took with a Canon D6 after using Lightroom. She is out of town now and sent me a picture of our daughter standing by a bright window in a dark room and it looked like a professional photographer took it. I do not think I could have done it any better. She just uses the default settings on the phone. I know if her photos were blown up they would not compare in detail as a full frame camera. But some of these cell phone now have 12MP's. I am hearing talk about cell phones getting better and better and have aperture and shutter settings as well as a decent zoom. Do any of you all have similar situations on this topic? I am also including a link about buying a travel camera and how to select one that works best for someone it covers cell phones as well. I found it quite informative. I am stating to wonder if I should just buy an expensive cell phone going forward and take pictures with that. Lord knows my neck would feel better.

https://www.findingtheuniverse.com/best-travel-camera/
My wife has a Samsung Galaxy 10. She has no photo... (show quote)


Apollo - the original Samsung Galaxy NX was a MILC, with a large screen (4.5" - I think) and all the bells and whistles of a regular cell-phone, to boot. It was a few years, ago, now. Went over like a lead balloon!

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Jun 28, 2019 12:39:49   #
RainierView Loc: Eatonville, WA
 
One big drawback (and there are more) with using my 16 megapixel Android cell phone is when you only have seconds for catching the shot, I can't grab it and shoot near as fast as grabbing my 80D (I keep it on Av for the unexpected). Cellphone cameras need a better trigger. But I always have my cell phone, not my camera. And under the right conditions I have gotten excellent shots with my cellphone. I enlarged and printed some to 20x30 at Costco and they were amazingly clear.

I put all my photos on my laptop and enjoy viewing them on our 55" TV. It bugs me when my friends or family send me their vertical cell photos. Not of tall waterfalls, sequoias or skyscraper buildings, but landscapes and even when taking family group photos (who needs to see their shoes?) I gave up trying to explain how to hold their cells to take photos. Guess never having owned a camera and only viewing their photos on their phones, they just don't get it.

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Jun 28, 2019 12:55:24   #
speters Loc: Grangeville/Idaho
 
apolloshep wrote:
My wife has a Samsung Galaxy 10. She has no photography skills as far as a DSLR or how any of the settings are used. We went on a trip a while ago and she took a photo of a waterfall and the quality was excellent it looked as good as the picture I took with a Canon D6 after using Lightroom. She is out of town now and sent me a picture of our daughter standing by a bright window in a dark room and it looked like a professional photographer took it. I do not think I could have done it any better. She just uses the default settings on the phone. I know if her photos were blown up they would not compare in detail as a full frame camera. But some of these cell phone now have 12MP's. I am hearing talk about cell phones getting better and better and have aperture and shutter settings as well as a decent zoom. Do any of you all have similar situations on this topic? I am also including a link about buying a travel camera and how to select one that works best for someone it covers cell phones as well. I found it quite informative. I am stating to wonder if I should just buy an expensive cell phone going forward and take pictures with that. Lord knows my neck would feel better.

https://www.findingtheuniverse.com/best-travel-camera/
My wife has a Samsung Galaxy 10. She has no photo... (show quote)


A lot of cell phones do have 40 or more mp's, but they are still just little inky-dinky sensors used, that they are just pretty much useless ( of course, good enough in a pinch)!

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Jun 28, 2019 12:59:52   #
no12mo
 
RainierView wrote:
One big drawback (and there are more) with using my 16 megapixel Android cell phone is when you only have seconds for catching the shot, I can't grab it and shoot near as fast as grabbing my 80D (I keep it on Av for the unexpected). Cellphone cameras need a better trigger. But I always have my cell phone, not my camera. And under the right conditions I have gotten excellent shots with my cellphone. I enlarged and printed some to 20x30 at Costco and they were amazingly clear.

I put all my photos on my laptop and enjoy viewing them on our 55" TV. It bugs me when my friends or family send me their vertical cell photos. Not of tall waterfalls, sequoias or skyscraper buildings, but landscapes and even when taking family group photos (who needs to see their shoes?) I gave up trying to explain how to hold their cells to take photos. Guess never having owned a camera and only viewing their photos on their phones, they just don't get it.
One big drawback (and there are more) with using m... (show quote)


On the above quote reference - how to rotate their cell phones correctly for landscape photos.. Agree - my favorite pet peeve. There is just no amount of telling them to hold the camera 90 degrees and then take the pic be it a group shot or a scenic view....

Is it the water they drink?

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Jun 28, 2019 13:01:35   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
no12mo wrote:
On the above quote reference - how to rotate their cell phones correctly for landscape photos.. Agree - my favorite pet peeve. There is just no amount of telling them to hold the camera 90 degrees and then take the pic be it a group shot or a scenic view....

Is it the water they drink?


Could be... bottled, expensive?

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Jun 28, 2019 13:26:18   #
claytonfm
 
There is also Camera Zoom FX.

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Jun 28, 2019 13:35:05   #
wdross Loc: Castle Rock, Colorado
 
apolloshep wrote:
My wife has a Samsung Galaxy 10. She has no photography skills as far as a DSLR or how any of the settings are used. We went on a trip a while ago and she took a photo of a waterfall and the quality was excellent it looked as good as the picture I took with a Canon D6 after using Lightroom. She is out of town now and sent me a picture of our daughter standing by a bright window in a dark room and it looked like a professional photographer took it. I do not think I could have done it any better. She just uses the default settings on the phone. I know if her photos were blown up they would not compare in detail as a full frame camera. But some of these cell phone now have 12MP's. I am hearing talk about cell phones getting better and better and have aperture and shutter settings as well as a decent zoom. Do any of you all have similar situations on this topic? I am also including a link about buying a travel camera and how to select one that works best for someone it covers cell phones as well. I found it quite informative. I am stating to wonder if I should just buy an expensive cell phone going forward and take pictures with that. Lord knows my neck would feel better.

https://www.findingtheuniverse.com/best-travel-camera/
My wife has a Samsung Galaxy 10. She has no photo... (show quote)


Cellphones can match anything previous P&Ss could do; hence, there is little if any actual P&S market left due to cellphones. Yes, there are now zooms, aperture, shutter speed, ISO, and modes for cellphones, and the cellphones do it all very well, but cameras actually still do it all better than cellphones. It just depends to at what level one wants to take their photography. Sometimes a cellphone will do. Sometimes a really good camera will do. And sometimes any camera at hand will do.

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Jun 28, 2019 13:35:41   #
Keen
 
Many newer cell phones have good cameras in them. They don't allow the same lens interchangeability as DSLRs / MILCS, though. Try mounting a 200-500mm lens on one, and see what happens. For snaps of the kids / grandkids at family gatherings, vacation snaps of not too distant subjects, etc, cell phone cams are great. For wildlife images in the wild, forget the cell phones. Then, too, you may get good portraits with a 12MP cell phone camera, but if someone pays you to shoot a professional portrait of them, and you whip out your cell phone to shoot it, you will be out of the portrait biz, as soon as word gets around. If a cell phone camera-or tablet camera-suits your photo needs, then do use it. To each his / her own.

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