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Jun 26, 2019 10:40:51   #
GoofyNewfie Loc: Kansas City
 
jdkoerner wrote:
A recap: I did not buy the Nikon D300 At the suggestion of brother Trix I purchased a Canon 5D IV in excellent shape for $850. Put aside the fact that the initial consideration of a Nikon was so off base. My friend is someone who does work for me and will do so in the future. I find it unlikely that he would deliberately cheat me at the price of a steady customer. It's simply inexplicable but there you go.


Some people don’t read beyond the original post. Too bad: with most threads, they can learn something.

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Jun 26, 2019 11:22:05   #
CaptainBobBrown
 
At one point I was using both Canon and Nikon but finally concluded that the Nikon interface felt more intuitive to me so I switched completely to Nikon. I also found Nikon lenses better than 3rd party lenses for the bird/wildlife photography I mostly do...but not necessarily better than Canon lenses for same purpose. For my Nikon bodies I now use only Nikon lenses. I've often been on trips where I'd be the only Nikon photographer with everyone else using Canon (or cellphones) but aside from the ribbing I'd get I'd not find any significant difference in quality of images between the Canon and Nikon results. Go with which feels easiest to use and don't waste money and time trying to keep two different systems intact.

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Jun 26, 2019 12:58:03   #
Bill P
 
If it was a D3, it would be a deal, if you need great low light performance. D3's will be selling well far into the future as current Nikons don't have a good low light capabilities.

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Jun 26, 2019 13:00:45   #
bwana Loc: Bergen, Alberta, Canada
 
jdkoerner wrote:
I've been shooting with Canons for 30 years. Recently a friend offered me a Nikon D 300 with 4200 activations that had only been used in his studio for $1000. Of course it is nothing like a Canon in terms of where all the dials and buttons are. It has a monitor but no touch screen, which I am practiced in using to make setting changes on the fly. I also use the Canon touch screen swung out so that I can frame shots from over my head or at my knees, and this monitor, as far as I can tell, doesn't do that either. I shoot mostly photojournalism.

The reason for even considering a new camera in the first place is to go to full frame: recent discussions of noise reduction software convince me that I have to start at the source, and I have a t4i, which is cropped, and so has a much lower native iso.

While you may feel free to comment on any aspect of this question the topic is: if you've made the switch what was it like? Was muscle memory an issue? Was learning an entirely new system difficult? Are you glad you switched?
I've been shooting with Canons for 30 years. Recen... (show quote)

If you are really considering a move off Canon, forget about Nikon and upgrade to Sony. Take a serious look at the Sony A7 III, A7R III or A9.

bwa

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Jun 26, 2019 13:06:27   #
Selene03
 
I am editing what I just posted after reading your update: Your choice of a 5 d mk iv, especially at that price makes total sense

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Jun 26, 2019 13:18:55   #
fantom Loc: Colorado
 
jdkoerner wrote:


I've been shooting with Canons for 30 years. Recently a friend offered me a Nikon D 300 with 4200 activations that had only been used in his studio for $1000. Of course it is nothing like a Canon in terms of where all the dials and buttons are. It has a monitor but no touch screen, which I am practiced in using to make setting changes on the fly. I also use the Canon touch screen swung out so that I can frame shots from over my head or at my knees, and this monitor, as far as I can tell, doesn't do that either. I shoot mostly photojournalism.

The reason for even considering a new camera in the first place is to go to full frame: recent discussions of noise reduction software convince me that I have to start at the source, and I have a t4i, which is cropped, and so has a much lower native iso.

While you may feel free to comment on any aspect of this question the topic is: if you've made the switch what was it like? Was muscle memory an issue? Was learning an entirely new system difficult? Are you glad you switched?
br br I've been shooting with Canons for 30 year... (show quote)



I have been using Canon cameras for decades and until recently have used an 80D. I bought a Nikon D750 and the image quality is outstanding, sharp, excellent color, great in low light etc. etc. Yes, those are advantages of a full frame camera but the D750 seems to be the best buy for the money and is also an easily manageable size.

On the other hand I think that NIKON HATES PHOTOGRAPHERS. Their ergonomics are poorly thought out whereas the Canons are a dream to use. I realize the Nikon will become easier to operate as I become more familiar with it and its idioscyncrasies.

I will not go into numerous examples, but one example is typical. To operate exposure lock on the Nikon a button has to be pressed and held while recomposing and refocusing the camera while half depressing the shutter button. There is probably a better way to do this but I have not yet discovered it within the bowels of the camera's features and menus. (Suggestions welcomed) With the Canon, just one button turns on the EL and can then be released and the EL remains active until the shot is taken.

However, all things considered, the Nikon images are great and worth the inconvenience of using the controls. I still love and use the 80D when I need faster focusing and video but will use the Nikon if I am shooting anything that I think may be printed or is in low light etc.

I expect rebuttals from dyed in the wool Nikon users but perception is everything and my perception is that the D750 is cumbersome compared to a Canon. The Nikon users are welcome to their opinions and I respect their opinions but at the moment I have to say the Canon is far superior in terms of operation---I just wish their images were on a par.

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Jun 26, 2019 13:27:30   #
Notorious T.O.D. Loc: Harrisburg, North Carolina
 
Is the 80D a fair comparison to the Nikon 750, I don’t know but it seems a little apples vs oranges to me image wise. Maybe another Canon full frame would compare more favorably.

fantom wrote:
I have been using Canon cameras for decades and until recently have used an 80D. I bought a Nikon D750 and the image quality is outstanding, sharp, excellent color, great in low light etc. etc. Yes, those are advantages of a full frame camera but the D750 seems to be the best buy for the money and is also an easily manageable size.

On the other hand I think that NIKON HATES PHOTOGRAPHERS. Their ergonomics are poorly thought out whereas the Canons are a dream to use. I realize the Nikon will become easier to operate as I become more familiar with it and its idioscyncrasies.

I will not go into numerous examples, but one example is typical. To operate exposure lock on the Nikon a button has to be pressed and held while recomposing and refocusing the camera while half depressing the shutter button. There is probably a better way to do this but I have not yet discovered it within the bowels of the camera's features and menus. (Suggestions welcomed) With the Canon, just one button turns on the EL and can then be released and the EL remains active until the shot is taken.

However, all things considered, the Nikon images are great and worth the inconvenience of using the controls. I still love and use the 80D when I need faster focusing and video but will use the Nikon if I am shooting anything that I think may be printed or is in low light etc.

I expect rebuttals from dyed in the wool Nikon users but perception is everything and my perception is that the D750 is cumbersome compared to a Canon. The Nikon users are welcome to their opinions and I respect their opinions but at the moment I have to say the Canon is far superior in terms of operation---I just wish their images were on a par.
I have been using Canon cameras for decades and un... (show quote)

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Jun 26, 2019 13:35:50   #
nadelewitz Loc: Ithaca NY
 
jdkoerner wrote:
I've been shooting with Canons for 30 years. Recently a friend offered me a Nikon D 300 with 4200 activations that had only been used in his studio for $1000. Of course it is nothing like a Canon in terms of where all the dials and buttons are. It has a monitor but no touch screen, which I am practiced in using to make setting changes on the fly. I also use the Canon touch screen swung out so that I can frame shots from over my head or at my knees, and this monitor, as far as I can tell, doesn't do that either. I shoot mostly photojournalism.

The reason for even considering a new camera in the first place is to go to full frame: recent discussions of noise reduction software convince me that I have to start at the source, and I have a t4i, which is cropped, and so has a much lower native iso.

While you may feel free to comment on any aspect of this question the topic is: if you've made the switch what was it like? Was muscle memory an issue? Was learning an entirely new system difficult? Are you glad you switched?
I've been shooting with Canons for 30 years. Recen... (show quote)


Consider the very confusing Nikon system of lens designations....all the letters and initials in their lens names and what they mean, and camera compatibilities (for full functionality) before you make a switch.

Why would you need to leave Canon to go full-frame? If you already are invested in Canon EF lenses, flashes, etc. you'd be shooting yourself in the foot to switch.

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Jun 26, 2019 13:56:10   #
cambriaman Loc: Central CA Coast
 
I have a D300 which I used as new for a few years and now is a back-up to my back-up (D800e to D850) and found it a fine camera back in the day but not a good choice to change over from a Canon with the features you are used to using. The price is unbelievable as many have noted before me. Stay away from the offer and reconsider how good a friend your "friend" is. Just sayin'

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Jun 26, 2019 14:35:34   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
jdkoerner wrote:
I've been shooting with Canons for 30 years. Recently a friend offered me a Nikon D 300 with 4200 activations that had only been used in his studio for $1000. Of course it is nothing like a Canon in terms of where all the dials and buttons are. It has a monitor but no touch screen, which I am practiced in using to make setting changes on the fly. I also use the Canon touch screen swung out so that I can frame shots from over my head or at my knees, and this monitor, as far as I can tell, doesn't do that either. I shoot mostly photojournalism.

The reason for even considering a new camera in the first place is to go to full frame: recent discussions of noise reduction software convince me that I have to start at the source, and I have a t4i, which is cropped, and so has a much lower native iso.

While you may feel free to comment on any aspect of this question the topic is: if you've made the switch what was it like? Was muscle memory an issue? Was learning an entirely new system difficult? Are you glad you switched?
I've been shooting with Canons for 30 years. Recen... (show quote)


If you built your lens collection before the 20D or didn't get cropped EFS lenses your EF lenses going back 30+ years will work 100% fine on any current EF, EFS, M or R Canon body currently in production.
You want full frame most likely all your old lenses are full frame compatible unless you more recently bought an EFS lens.
Remember the EF mount is now 32 years old.

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Jun 26, 2019 14:36:41   #
Chris T Loc: from England across the pond to New England
 
jdkoerner wrote:
I've been shooting with Canons for 30 years. Recently a friend offered me a Nikon D 300 with 4200 activations that had only been used in his studio for $1000. Of course it is nothing like a Canon in terms of where all the dials and buttons are. It has a monitor but no touch screen, which I am practiced in using to make setting changes on the fly. I also use the Canon touch screen swung out so that I can frame shots from over my head or at my knees, and this monitor, as far as I can tell, doesn't do that either. I shoot mostly photojournalism.

The reason for even considering a new camera in the first place is to go to full frame: recent discussions of noise reduction software convince me that I have to start at the source, and I have a t4i, which is cropped, and so has a much lower native iso.

While you may feel free to comment on any aspect of this question the topic is: if you've made the switch what was it like? Was muscle memory an issue? Was learning an entirely new system difficult? Are you glad you switched?
I've been shooting with Canons for 30 years. Recen... (show quote)


JD - if I ever DID do a "switch" - it was the other way around. My first DSLR, in the 60s - was a Zenit-E. In 1970, I graduated to a Nikon F, and followed that up with an F2, and a Nikkormat. Later on, after all those were gone - I chose a Canon A1. Later, I added a T70. At some point, I replaced my Nikkormat, with an EL, and my lost Nikon F2 with an FG. When I got into Digital, my first camera was a Fuji HS-10. Then I decided to get a DSLR - the first, being a Canon Rebel T3. Later I added both a 60D and a T4i. Then, I added several Nikons - the D3200, D5300, D5500, and the D7000, and now - the D7100. So, now I have FIVE Nikon DSLR bodies, but, only a handful of lenses for them. In contrast, since I've been in the Canon DSLR camp longer - I DO have a dozen EOS lenses - so, I guess it all comes out in the wash.

Muscle cramps only became an issue with the gigantic EOS 60D - which was sufficiently large enough to warn me away from EVER going the FULL-Sized DSLR route. As far as getting used to the change between menus, for instance - the Nikon ones are bewildering - with their JUMP TO design, and continual loop down, and rotating back to the top - drives me NUTS! … Canon menus - on the other hand, are fairly easy to navigate - always going left to right. Sony Menus are part Canon, and part - JUMP TO complexity of the Nikons - but since you use a separate button for the jumps - it's fairly easy to keep it straight. Pentax menus are the easiest - their Graphic Display of where you are, takes a little time to learn, but, it's child's-play, both - picking it up, and doing it. Am I glad I switched? From what to what? … I use ALL systems. In the Bridge Dept., apart from Canon, Nikon, Sony, and Fuji units, I also have a Panasonic Lumix, and an Olympus - so I have full familiarity with seven different brands of menus. And, no - it's not diff, switching.

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Jun 26, 2019 14:55:00   #
Chris T Loc: from England across the pond to New England
 
Notorious T.O.D. wrote:
Is the 80D a fair comparison to the Nikon 750, I don’t know but it seems a little apples vs oranges to me image wise. Maybe another Canon full frame would compare more favorably.


Not AT ALL, Todd … the 80D is a crop, like the Rebels and the 77D. Full-Size Canons include the 1D series, the 5D Series, and the 6D Series. The 7D series - are also CROPs or APS-C or, as I'm fond of saying - DXI - meaning DX all-inclusive. The Nikon DX (crop) cameras include the beginner D3000 series, the intermediate beginner D5000 series, and the Prosumer level D7000 series, and the Pro DX - the D500 (and D300 before it) … the rest are all FF (FX) including the D750 (and D600/D610 below it) and the Df, and the D810, the D850, and the D5 (plus all the preceding models below them in their series) … if you're asking if the actual product from the D750 and the EOS 80D are comparable - well, that's another matter. I suspect, in most photographic situations, they might be, but the FF will have an edge in Low Light, and - in wide shots.

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Jun 26, 2019 15:02:15   #
fantom Loc: Colorado
 
Notorious T.O.D. wrote:
Is the 80D a fair comparison to the Nikon 750, I don’t know but it seems a little apples vs oranges to me image wise. Maybe another Canon full frame would compare more favorably.


The Nikon is far superior as far as IQ is concerned and one of the reasons is FF vs crop sensor. But, in addition, from what I have read, the Nikon sensor and processor are much better also. So yes, apples and oranges, so pick the one you prefer.

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Jun 26, 2019 15:05:14   #
Chris T Loc: from England across the pond to New England
 
fantom wrote:
I have been using Canon cameras for decades and until recently have used an 80D. I bought a Nikon D750 and the image quality is outstanding, sharp, excellent color, great in low light etc. etc. Yes, those are advantages of a full frame camera but the D750 seems to be the best buy for the money and is also an easily manageable size.

On the other hand I think that NIKON HATES PHOTOGRAPHERS. Their ergonomics are poorly thought out whereas the Canons are a dream to use. I realize the Nikon will become easier to operate as I become more familiar with it and its idioscyncrasies.

I will not go into numerous examples, but one example is typical. To operate exposure lock on the Nikon a button has to be pressed and held while recomposing and refocusing the camera while half depressing the shutter button. There is probably a better way to do this but I have not yet discovered it within the bowels of the camera's features and menus. (Suggestions welcomed) With the Canon, just one button turns on the EL and can then be released and the EL remains active until the shot is taken.

However, all things considered, the Nikon images are great and worth the inconvenience of using the controls. I still love and use the 80D when I need faster focusing and video but will use the Nikon if I am shooting anything that I think may be printed or is in low light etc.

I expect rebuttals from dyed in the wool Nikon users but perception is everything and my perception is that the D750 is cumbersome compared to a Canon. The Nikon users are welcome to their opinions and I respect their opinions but at the moment I have to say the Canon is far superior in terms of operation---I just wish their images were on a par.
I have been using Canon cameras for decades and un... (show quote)


Fantom - recently I went into a Best Buy to check out the new Canon 6D2. It was side-by-side with the 80D. I was very surprised to see the 80D actually appeared BIGGER than the 6D2. It was the height, primarily. The 6D2 FF was a little wider than the 80D and a little thicker, but, overall, as it was slightly lower, it seemed - actually - smaller than the 80D. Now, then - what could account for that? Perhaps, the slightly smaller VF image size? … It's only 98% after all. You get 100% with the 80D! … But, here's the ticket - with the 6D2 - you RETAIN the Fully-Articulating Touch Screen you have with the EOS 80D, plus, you get a GPS in it, to boot! … You don't get all that with the Nikon D750! … Canon's a win-win, IMHO!

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Jun 26, 2019 15:13:07   #
fantom Loc: Colorado
 
nadelewitz wrote:
Consider the very confusing Nikon system of lens designations....all the letters and initials in their lens names and what they mean, and camera compatibilities (for full functionality) before you make a switch.

Why would you need to leave Canon to go full-frame? If you already are invested in Canon EF lenses, flashes, etc. you'd be shooting yourself in the foot to switch.


I didn't leave Canon to go full frame. I still use the 80D depending upon the circumstances. I also didn't shoot my self in the foot in this instance becuz I bought a refurb Nikon and have access to a stableful of FF lenses, so there is no unnecessary lens expense. Canon equipment is still being used also. In addition I can sell off extra, rarely used Canon gear to make further acquisitions if required.
I am not a gear addict and tend to buy only what I need---after doing a lot of research.

My research seemed to strongly indicate that the D750 was smaller, cheaper and slightly better than a Canon FF---especially in low light situations. All my Canons have seemed to be noise factories in even moderate ISO's.

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