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Jun 24, 2019 08:43:35   #
LWW Loc: Banana Republic of America
 
FrumCA wrote:
Thanks for the short history lesson!!


I'm here to help.

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Jun 24, 2019 08:46:51   #
LWW Loc: Banana Republic of America
 
"LOOK RIGHT HERE HOLMES ... THAT'S HOW MUCH THE PEOPLE PAID FOR MY PEOPLE'S ROLEX MAN!"


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Jun 24, 2019 08:51:05   #
LWW Loc: Banana Republic of America
 
Even late at night ... a finely pressed uniform and a ROLEX.



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Jun 24, 2019 08:53:29   #
LWW Loc: Banana Republic of America
 
Che Guevara got around by with a humble Daimler limousine.



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Jun 24, 2019 08:56:24   #
LWW Loc: Banana Republic of America
 
And a fine cigar is always better with a ROLEX.



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Jun 24, 2019 09:03:50   #
Steven Seward Loc: Cleveland, Ohio
 
BigWahoo wrote:
Here is an article about the movie about Che:

"The Cult of Che
Don’t applaud The Motorcycle Diaries.

By Paul Berman


The cult of Ernesto Che Guevara is an episode in the moral callousness of our time.

Che was a totalitarian.

He achieved nothing but disaster.

Many of the early leaders of the Cuban Revolution favored a democratic or democratic-socialist direction for the new Cuba.

But Che was a mainstay of the hardline pro-Soviet faction, and his faction won."
Read article here:
https://slate.com/culture/2004/09/should-we-love-che-guevara.html
Here is an article about the movie about Che: br ... (show quote)


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Jun 24, 2019 09:09:42   #
LWW Loc: Banana Republic of America
 
And what sponsored this was an earlier post condemning a POTUS, uninvolved, for a murder that another may or may not have ordered ... and having never witnessed them condemn the hideous Cuban regime that Dear Leader Barack Hussein Obama slobbered all over.

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Jun 24, 2019 09:12:09   #
jhigbie Loc: Ventura, CA
 
A better point would be to ask why was there a revolution in Cuba? Should intense poverty and a corrupt government have been left to thrive for the benefit of the mafia and the wealthy? What were people so upset about that a whole army formed to throw out the government? Castro must have touched something in them. A better line of reading might be what happened to make Castro become so pro-Communist and destroy Cuba's middle-upper class so violently? He was in Tampa before the revolution collecting funds from the cigar merchants. Is Castro another Ho Chi Minh story of being rebuffed by our government? Anyone know? Or would you rather just call me a name and be done with it

Our founding fathers were all sons of wealth--the educated class at that time were from the wealthy class. Do you think a farmer after spending all day in the fields would read Hume or "Wealth of Nations" by candlelight? Like you are saying about Che, you could also say that our founding fathers were spoiled rich kids causing problem for everyone. The only difference is that T-shirts did not exist back then.

This country's current government was formed by revolution. Revolution happens because of an in-balance, usually economic--that is held in check by a government. An in-balance is happening now in this country--the top 0.1% own as much as the bottom 90%. Because of deregulation, corporate lobbyists, and bought and paid-for congress. Trump was voted in because the broken lower classes sensed things were wrong and thought that f-ing things up was the only solution. Less government is not a solution--things are too complicated and anyway it's a dog whistle. The wealthy are not going to let go of their acquiring nature, it has to be taken from them with laws and regulation. For the good of us all.

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Jun 24, 2019 09:15:59   #
LWW Loc: Banana Republic of America
 
jhigbie wrote:
A better point would be to ask why was there a revolution in Cuba? Should intense poverty and a corrupt government have been left to thrive for the benefit of the mafia and the wealthy?


Truth condemns you.

Cuba was a wealthy nation before Castro. The gubmint before Castro was certainly corrupt ... but nothing like what was to come.

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Jun 24, 2019 09:24:48   #
LWW Loc: Banana Republic of America
 
jhigbie wrote:
An in-balance is happening now in this country--the top 0.1% own as much as the bottom 90%.


That claim is pure Barbara Streisand.

The truth is that:

- wealth is nothing like ythat condensed in the USA.

- Obamanomics made it worse,

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wealth_inequality_in_the_United_States

In addition, it is hard to be living in the US and not be a 1%er.

"According to the Global Rich List, a website that brings awareness to worldwide income disparities, an income of $32,400 a year will allow you to make the cut. $32,400 amounts to roughly:

28,614 euros
2.307 million Indian rupees
218,532 Chinese yuan"

https://www.investopedia.com/articles/personal-finance/050615/are-you-top-one-percent-world.asp

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Jun 24, 2019 09:35:15   #
LWW Loc: Banana Republic of America
 
BigWahoo wrote:
Here is an article about the movie about Che:

"The Cult of Che
Don’t applaud The Motorcycle Diaries.

By Paul Berman


The cult of Ernesto Che Guevara is an episode in the moral callousness of our time.

Che was a totalitarian.

He achieved nothing but disaster.

Many of the early leaders of the Cuban Revolution favored a democratic or democratic-socialist direction for the new Cuba.

But Che was a mainstay of the hardline pro-Soviet faction, and his faction won."
Read article here:
https://slate.com/culture/2004/09/should-we-love-che-guevara.html
Here is an article about the movie about Che: br ... (show quote)


Castro/Guevara, like all murderous leftist revolutionaries, promised the people democracy ... freedom ... increased prosperity ... peace ... justice ... better schools ... better medical care ... free unicorns ... whatever the people would believe.

Castro/Guevara, like all murderous leftist revolutionaries, delivered dictatorship ... terror ... incarceration ... murder ... propaganda ... violence ... and poverty.

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Jun 24, 2019 09:36:37   #
jhigbie Loc: Ventura, CA
 
Country are not wealthy. People in the country are wealthy. Some people in Cuba revolted. Why is what I asked.

"Truth condemns me"? What? preparing to lead a firing squad?

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Jun 24, 2019 09:38:38   #
LWW Loc: Banana Republic of America
 
jhigbie wrote:
Country are not wealthy. People in the country are wealthy. Some people in Cuba revolted. Why is what I asked.


Che wasn't even Cuban.

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Jun 24, 2019 09:39:22   #
LWW Loc: Banana Republic of America
 
jhigbie wrote:


"Truth condemns me"? What? preparing to lead a firing squad?


Nope ... that would be Ernesto Guevara's style.

I did make an effort at educating you.

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Jun 24, 2019 09:44:56   #
Steven Seward Loc: Cleveland, Ohio
 
jhigbie wrote:
A better point would be to ask why was there a revolution in Cuba? Should intense poverty and a corrupt government have been left to thrive for the benefit of the mafia and the wealthy?

You seem to be uninformed about history. Cuba was I think, the wealthiest Central American Country at the time of its revolution. Money had as little to do with communism in Cuba as it had to do with communism in the Soviet Union. Money helps, but power is the driving force behind any communist revolution. Why do you think all communist countries end up being so dirt poor, while their leaders live in luxury? The wealth disparity in communist countries far exceeds that of any capitalist countries, including the Batista regime in Cuba in the 1950's.

And as far as corrupt government, the communists win the achievement award over capitalist countries any day.

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