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Jun 13, 2019 17:24:53   #
crushr13 Loc: Sacramento, CA
 
Many smartphones are, just now, coming out with a "pro" mode, where one can take RAW photos, and can shoot in a Manual mode, Program mode, or Aperture or Shutter Priority mode.

True, they may NOT be as good as a DSLR, they are at least as good as many point and shoot cameras. And, if I want to go to an event, I will be allowed to take my phone, whereas a camera (DSLR) may not be permitted.

And I am unable to carry my DSLR with me all of the time, but I do carry my cell phone with me all the time, for safety reasons, if nothing else.

There are pros and cons to both, and each has its advantages we have come to appreciate. I try to use both, and develop my overall photographic skill, even if, in some eyes, I am only taking a snapshot, at best.

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Jun 13, 2019 17:34:55   #
aellman Loc: Boston MA
 
PAR4DCR wrote:
You shoot with what you want and I will shoot with I want, case closed. End of story.

Don


And the best camera is the one you have with you.

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Jun 13, 2019 17:40:43   #
Vince68 Loc: Wappingers Falls, NY
 
Rrmaas wrote:
What do you say to people who ask, "Why don't you just use your phone for taking pictures?" I get that frequently.


I would simply say "My phone is used to talk to people, and my camera is for taking pictures". I like using a camera. Some people don't like to be bothered with carrying around a camera. They are happy with using their cell phone for everything... talking, texting, photography, computing, etc.

If it works for them and they are happy, thats all that matters.

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Jun 13, 2019 18:03:45   #
hookedupin2005 Loc: Northwestern New Mexico
 
Rrmaas wrote:
What do you say to people who ask, "Why don't you just use your phone for taking pictures?" I get that frequently.


Because I wish to be in control of how my photos turn out.

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Jun 13, 2019 18:09:42   #
hassighedgehog Loc: Corona, CA
 
No one has ever asked me that, but if they did, my reply would be: I want a clear image, which, for me, requires a viewfinder. When phones have those, I might consider one. For now, all I use a phone for is talking and taking shots of the location in a parking lot so that I can find my car later.

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Jun 13, 2019 18:16:13   #
junglejim1949 Loc: Sacramento,CA
 
aellman wrote:
And the best camera is the one you have with you.


Yes@

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Jun 13, 2019 18:29:04   #
lev29 Loc: Born and living in MA.
 
Rrmaas wrote:
What do you say to people who ask, "Why don't you just use your phone for taking pictures?" I get that frequently.
If I'm bothering to carry a visible light-only (as opposed to a Full Spectrum) camera with me, are you kidding?

I have problems holding the iPhone camera due to hand tremors; the IS function does not always adequately reduce tremor effects the way my IS lenses and Sony cameras do. Sometimes part of my finger covers the damn iPhone lens! I can’t readily access all of the iPhone camera controls like I can on my Sonys. There’s no goddamn viewfinder to use when there’s glare galore on the iPhone screen ... and I don’t get the range of focal lengths I always want.

Are those sufficient reasons?

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Jun 13, 2019 19:55:14   #
fantom Loc: Colorado
 
Keen wrote:
A phone camera is great....when you have nothing better, or the better is packed away, and inaccessible. Speeding down the freeway, watching a reckless driver swerving wildly in, and out, from lane to lane, nearly crashing, is a great time to video it with a cell phone just before you call the cops. When shooting a safari, for National Geographic, use something more professional. Fit the tool to the task. For personal family picnic images for the family photo album, 8MP, 10MP, 12MP, or whatever cell phone pix are fine. When shooting someone's wedding, product shots for local jewelers, or even just your own 'once in a lifetime' vacation, go with something more...more megapixels, sharper lenses, better flash unit, etc. The more important a shot is, the more imaging capability you should bring to the task. If friends want to use cell phones for all of their photos, that is fine for them. If you want to use something more for your shots, that is fine for you.
A phone camera is great....when you have nothing b... (show quote)


very good response

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Jun 13, 2019 20:21:35   #
abbey4049 Loc: West Palm Beach, Florida
 
What do you think these were taken with, camera or iPhone? They are mixed!!


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Jun 13, 2019 20:33:34   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
Rrmaas wrote:
What do you say to people who ask, "Why don't you just use your phone for taking pictures?" I get that frequently.


"Because I don't want to."

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Jun 13, 2019 20:48:08   #
aggiedad Loc: Corona, ca
 
The truly sad thing is that so many camera phone users have no desire to get as good an image as possible. My iPhone has the ability to improve images yet so few can be bothered to use the tools available to them on their camera phones.

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Jun 13, 2019 22:07:20   #
no12mo
 
nekon wrote:
You can make images with a smartphone


No download option with high res images? Hmmm. Well done and would make great 4 x 6 prints

Having said this, your pictures would most likely out perform my Canon ELPH, a point and shoot. Not so much my Nikon D500 with the lens collection that I have.

If I ever upgrade from my current cell phone to a smart phone, I'll be taking it along with my bicycle rides. The ELPH has been a big disappointment.

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Jun 13, 2019 22:23:14   #
no12mo
 
Toment wrote:
Little data from little sensor means very nice little pictures....


Respectfully disagree. Today's cameras sport some excellent technology. I have a friend who prides in taking very good pictures of his trips out west and I have to agree these pictures look very good on my 27" diag... monitor.. They are on the road pics that would never have been taken under normal circumstances.

I will eventually get one of those phones and when I do, its picture taking capabilities will play a large place in my selection. for now my Canon ELPH will have to do. Under bright sunlight and perfect conditions the pictures are pretty good but not nearly as good as my D500

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Jun 13, 2019 22:38:15   #
no12mo
 
wingclui44 wrote:
I would tell them, sorry I don't have a cell phone with camera just a flip phone.


My choice of flip phone was a deliberate one. My job involved my going into secure rooms. I did NOT want a cell that could take pictures. We still left them outside in a box screwed to the wall next to the entrance. I just did not want a cell with picture taking capabilities.

My next phone will be one with picture taking capabilities - good ones.

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Jun 13, 2019 23:00:35   #
davidb1879
 
Re: Rrmass (cellphones). We are really dealing with personal preferences. I own an Apple I phone 8. I must admit it has an excellent f1.8 lens. But I much prefer my bridge cameras and DSLRS. Since film days, I have always required a viewfinder. I need it as a camera support and for better composition (except when using a tripod.) Monitors are useless in bright sunlight. Holding a camera with arms extended is an invitation (in my case) to camera shake. A phone camera does not have the "zoom" provided by a conventional camera. Almost all professional photographers use conventional cameras (I am not a professional or an expert) but I respect the opinions of those who are. LOL. Davidb1879

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