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Jun 13, 2019 11:34:10 #
Jun 13, 2019 11:38:46 #
gvarner
Loc: Central Oregon Coast
Toment wrote:
Little data from little sensor means very nice little pictures....
You can get decent photos and decent prints up to 16x24 from those little sensors. To each his own. And you can also get lousy photos and lousy prints from big sensors.
Jun 13, 2019 11:43:32 #
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Jun 13, 2019 11:49:48 #
PAR4DCR wrote:
You shoot with what you want and I will shoot with I want, case closed. End of story.
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I do take pictures with my phone. I like that I've always a camera with me. But when I'm serious, I shoot with an ILC. Tiny sensors in phones produce images okay for social media, but they just aren't adequate for cropping or large prints.
Jun 13, 2019 12:05:42 #
joer wrote:
I don't understand the vitriol and hypocrisy toward phone cameras. The latest crop of cell phone are as good or better than most cameras of 15 years ago. If you were into photography at that time most likely you boasted about how much better they were than film.
Old farts have a difficult time with change, I guess. Cell phones can't do everything...yet.
Old farts have a difficult time with change, I guess. Cell phones can't do everything...yet.
I'm with you on that, other than the "Old fart" thing. I'm 73, and have been using SLR's since 1975, DSLR's
since 1998. I've now almost completly stopped using my DSLR's and generally use my LG cell for pictures. My daughter has been sending me pictures of my granddaughter, all taken on her Samsung Cell phone. I photoshop the good ones, and use them on my Web page (http://jbstein.com/Josie.htm) If you look at that page of my granddaughter, out of about 50 photos, only 3 or 4 are taken with my camera. I know no one could separate the cell photo/images from the DSLR pictures. Go ahead, try, give me the number of pic you think is a DSLR image)
I'm not a photographer by any means, but my daughter is not even close to an amateur. She's just a snapshooter. I've photo-shopped every single picture, but many needed nothing much other than cropping and resizing for the web. Many were taken in low light w/o a flash, and needed some dehazing and color work, but, these cell phones do great work, and the more post work needed, the better imo since my hobby is more post production than production. (I also photoshop every DSLR photo I like as well)
I do like the dslr when I wish to fool around with setting up stuff, like long exposure stuff, or still life's, but for the most part, I'm close to done with DSLR's, and figure most everyone will eventually follow me if they already haven't. Cells are only going to get better, and they already are pretty amazing, and no effort needed, just a good eye for photo's. After all, it's not the camera, it's the shooter, right?
Jun 13, 2019 12:11:16 #
rmalarz wrote:
If all I wanted was pictures, an iphone would be sufficient. I tend to want to make photographs. For that, a camera is required.
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Jun 13, 2019 12:26:28 #
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Jun 13, 2019 12:33:29 #
Jun 13, 2019 12:39:19 #
Desert Gecko wrote:
I do take pictures with my phone. I like that I've always a camera with me. But when I'm serious, I shoot with an ILC. Tiny sensors in phones produce images okay for social media, but they just aren't adequate for cropping or large prints.
I’m sorry, but they are adequate for large prints. Are they as good as with a camera ... no. I’ve made a couple of 12 X 18 metal prints from my iPhone 8 +, and they came out beautiful. I’m tempted to make one larger by using On 1 Resize software to resize it.
Also made several 11X14 prints with an iPhone 6+ a couple of years ago that came out great. Guess it all boils down to what you mean by “large?” If it’s 20X30 or larger then I certainly agree, cameras will definitely do a better job.
We also need to keep in mind that the larger the print the further away it is typically viewed.
Jun 13, 2019 13:23:20 #
My phone takes some excellent photos, such as of my big black dog curled up asleep with one of our cats. At dog parks I can show fellow dog lovers phone pictures of my dog sleeping with my cat for a great "Oh, how wonderful" reaction. I'm sure my Nikon DSLR could take much sharper photos with more depth, but they would be stored on my computer, totally unavailable at the dog park.
Jun 13, 2019 13:50:04 #
Many have discounted the iPhone. I feel that if they had full knowledge of the latest technology avail in the iPhone 10s they might feel differently about some things. As example, portrait mode is amazing offer many different lighting conditions and bokeh. A professional might want to download the pro camera app. The diversity avail in that can rival most dslr. Worth a look. Also understand the iPhone 11, out this fall will have a third lens.
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Jun 13, 2019 14:38:18 #
I answer that I do, but there are many shots that come out poorly because it wasn't a serious camera.
The problem is that many don't care about the quality of the image. My father had a picture taken of my niece (his granddaughter) taken with flash on a P&S at about 2 feet that was blown out and VERY blurry (the camera couldn't focus that close). It was terrible as a photo, but his favorite as a memory. I see blurry shots all the time on Facebook where people say "great shot". What they care about is the subject, not the photo quality.
The problem is that many don't care about the quality of the image. My father had a picture taken of my niece (his granddaughter) taken with flash on a P&S at about 2 feet that was blown out and VERY blurry (the camera couldn't focus that close). It was terrible as a photo, but his favorite as a memory. I see blurry shots all the time on Facebook where people say "great shot". What they care about is the subject, not the photo quality.
Jun 13, 2019 14:47:21 #
Jun 13, 2019 16:56:44 #
kb6kgx
Loc: Simi Valley, CA
joer wrote:
I don't understand the vitriol and hypocrisy toward phone cameras. The latest crop of cell phone are as good or better than most cameras of 15 years ago. If you were into photography at that time most likely you boasted about how much better they were than film.
Old farts have a difficult time with change, I guess. Cell phones can't do everything...yet.
Old farts have a difficult time with change, I guess. Cell phones can't do everything...yet.
Right! The first decent digital cameras were 3-5 MP. The average smartphone now is around 12 MP.
Big difference.
Jun 13, 2019 17:08:18 #
Rrmaas wrote:
What do you say to people who ask, "Why don't you just use your phone for taking pictures?" I get that frequently.
I don't have a cell phone.
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