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Jun 9, 2019 10:47:58   #
cjc2 Loc: Hellertown PA
 
IMHO, improved Dynamic Range would be the key feature, yet it is not absolutely necessary. If your D90 is working well and providing you what you want then keep it. Best of luck.

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Jun 9, 2019 10:51:39   #
Charles 46277 Loc: Fulton County, KY
 
stanikon wrote:
I have and use a Nikon D90. I have been reviewing some of my reference books and I am wondering, what do you get with the newer models that my D90 doesn't have? Admittedly it is several years old, which makes it a dinosaur in electronic terms, but it is loaded with features, more than I will ever use. I do not have every lens that fits this camera but I have all the lenses that I need for all the photography I want to do. They are all AF and VR when I choose to use those features, and all take sharp, color-true photos. It has about 15,000 shutter trips on the clock but is rated for 100,000 so it is far from being worn out.

So, can someone with expertise in the D90 and newer models tell me what I am missing? Must be something very, very special to justify the cost of a newer camera.

TIA
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Stanikon, I was a retail camera manager for 20 years--all before digital. Regarding film cameras, I was firmly convinced that most of the improvements over that time were in marketing, not in photography. Certainly the best cameras--view cameras--were as good after 20 or 30 years (or more) as the latest models.

Of course, actual improvements have been made at speed in the digital cameras. The size and pixels may be #1, but technological features in other practical ways have been improved--and how much these matter is up to you. I teach online in college, so I use my computer throughout the day--but most of its features have never been used. I find making PowerPoints tedious, so I don't make them. I loathe spreadsheets. I buy computer models without camera or microphone because hackers can eavesdrop with them. I don't use any sort of cloud storage because they charge for it.

Thing is, you can go both ways--you can pick up a later model with greater capacities--but used. A 5 year old model is a giant leap from the 10 year old one, and reliable dealers sell used ones with return privileges. My Linhof 8x10, Toyo 8x10 and 4x5, Arca Swiss 4x5, Canon digital and Hasselblad digital (and many others) all came through eBay, as well as lots and lots of lenses over the years, at prices far below new gear prices. I recently bought a Hasselblad H2D camera (over 10 years old) that studio only used for backup, and I have attached here one of the first test shots in my living room, a streptocarpus plant with the normal lens.

My first digital was a little Kodak point and shoot with a small sensor--I used it to make "sketches" to later come back with a view camera for the real pictures. But it has a Schneider zoom lens and takes very sharp pictures up to about 8x10 or even 11x14.

Here is the wisdom of the ages (all the great photographers said it)--the photographer must bend to the equipment at hand, not the other way round. If we just concentrate on learning and doing what we can with what we have, the muses will take care of themselves. Alfred Eisenstaedt with a Brownie would trump nearly anybody with bells and whistles. (OK, he used Leica's, but they were medieval Leicas compared to today.) If he had only so-many pixels, he would cast a spell on them and do his magic. After all, 35mm was considered subpar in his day, yet he made do. Is there any camera that, by its very design, does not limit some things by giving us others?


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Jun 9, 2019 10:56:31   #
wingclui44 Loc: CT USA
 
BebuLamar wrote:
I bought mine a day after Christmas 2013. Dec 26th 2013. So mine is about the same age as yours.


Yes, indeed! You love it?
As soon as seeing the advertisement of this new Nikon, I immediately ordered from Adorama, even the hot D800 was on the market that time, I choose the Df because all it's features that was what I waiting for. I don't care how high the MP that the D800 offering. I an not taking photo for a living just for hobby, all those extract MP is waste for me.
I am now entering the fancy world of infra-red photography with a simple self-converted P&S camera and getting the experience, then I may convert my old D200 to IR, will see how things work out.

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Jun 9, 2019 11:20:03   #
LoStrunzo
 
You are missing the opportunity to contribute to the financial success of all those in the camera supply chain.

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Jun 9, 2019 11:23:57   #
Strodav Loc: Houston, Tx
 
LoStrunzo wrote:
You are missing the opportunity to contribute to the financial success of all those in the camera supply chain.



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Jun 9, 2019 12:31:39   #
Soul Dr. Loc: Beautiful Shenandoah Valley
 
I have a D90 too and will never quit using it until bites the dust. I have a lot of other newer cameras, but enjoy using the D90 and the images I get with it. To me it is like an old friend that I trust.
So, if you are happy with yours, than I see no reason for you to upgrade.

will

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Jun 9, 2019 12:37:20   #
TomV Loc: Annapolis, Maryland
 
quixdraw wrote:
Time passes - my dear old D60 went to my daughter - it took fine photos, that still look good, but I moved on to both FX and DX. Here is a pretty decent comparison - even leaving out wear & tear even on a carefully handled piece of equipment.
Link https://cameradecision.com/compare/Nikon-D7200-vs-Nikon-D90
I would not go back.
Best of luck whatever you decide!


The low light and noise performance improvements over the years is enough to change. When you actually compare photos between different generations you will understand why we upgrade.

The OP may assume that he has everything he needs because he does not know what the available opportunities are with newer cameras. My post-processing work has been reduced dramatically with the camera image improvements.

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Jun 9, 2019 12:48:09   #
Phil Martin Loc: New Hampshire
 
My D90 is still my "go to" camera for my DX lenses. I have a D600 and a D7100. Still love the D90.

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Jun 9, 2019 12:55:00   #
rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona
 
The key suggested correction I'd make to your statement is this. Instead of saying "which makes it a dinosaur in electronic terms", I'd say which makes it a dinosaur in marketing terms.
--Bob
stanikon wrote:
I have and use a Nikon D90. I have been reviewing some of my reference books and I am wondering, what do you get with the newer models that my D90 doesn't have? Admittedly it is several years old, which makes it a dinosaur in electronic terms, but it is loaded with features, more than I will ever use. I do not have every lens that fits this camera but I have all the lenses that I need for all the photography I want to do. They are all AF and VR when I choose to use those features, and all take sharp, color-true photos. It has about 15,000 shutter trips on the clock but is rated for 100,000 so it is far from being worn out.

So, can someone with expertise in the D90 and newer models tell me what I am missing? Must be something very, very special to justify the cost of a newer camera.

TIA
I have and use a Nikon D90. I have been reviewing... (show quote)

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Jun 9, 2019 13:00:06   #
BebuLamar
 
wingclui44 wrote:
Yes, indeed! You love it?
As soon as seeing the advertisement of this new Nikon, I immediately ordered from Adorama, even the hot D800 was on the market that time, I choose the Df because all it's features that was what I waiting for. I don't care how high the MP that the D800 offering. I an not taking photo for a living just for hobby, all those extract MP is waste for me.
I am now entering the fancy world of infra-red photography with a simple self-converted P&S camera and getting the experience, then I may convert my old D200 to IR, will see how things work out.
Yes, indeed! You love it? br As soon as seeing the... (show quote)


I do love it! The only complaint I have about it is that it's too big yet too light. Otherwise it's almost perfect.
At the time I decided that I would want a new Df (not refurbished or used) and since I am going to keep it for a very long time it wouldn't matter how long I had to wait if I could get it (new) for less. After a month thinking I figured that since Nikon knew they were not going to sell a lot of them they didn't make a lot of them so they would never have a sales. So I bought it. So far I was right. The price on new Df hasn't dropped any in 5 and 1/2 years.
The price of the D800, D810 and D850 have dropped significantly since.

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Jun 9, 2019 13:15:51   #
BrianFlaherty Loc: Wilseyville, CA
 
Stan:
I've had my D90 for 8-9 yrs (and, I've yet to use more than 5-10% of its capabilities!). A couple yrs ago, I bought a D7000 and D7100 because I like to carry two cameras (a 18-37 zoom on one; and, a 28-300 zoom on the other). . .And, I still have the D90. . For what I use it for (vacation; family photos; etc) I use either a 28-300; or, an "old" Nikkor 85 f1.4 that I've had since 1968. Not necessary to change anything! I get photos that I think are just fine! And, so does everyone else!!!! And, when I want to shoot loooong distance, I have a F-3 with a Nikkor 500mm f8. . .

Seems that I have all of MY bases covered. . .Any thing more would be sorta like "tits on a bull!"

My advice to you: Keep your D90. . .it still has MANY uses! And, it'll never let you down. . .

Here's to "Down with GAS!" Keep on shootin' with what got you to where you are today!. . .Unless you discover it no longer does the job!

Best wishes,
Brian

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Jun 9, 2019 13:20:35   #
stanikon Loc: Deep in the Heart of Texas
 
BrianFlaherty wrote:
Stan:
My advice to you: Keep your D90. . .it still has MANY uses! And, it'll never let you down. . .

Here's to "Down with GAS!" Keep on shootin' with what got you to where you are today!. . .Unless you discover it no longer does the job!

Best wishes,
Brian


Folks in Texas generally don't have much truck with people in California, but I gotta admit this is a fine post. Thank you.

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Jun 9, 2019 14:51:51   #
AirWalter Loc: Tipp City, Ohio
 
stanikon wrote:
I have and use a Nikon D90. I have been reviewing some of my reference books and I am wondering, what do you get with the newer models that my D90 doesn't have? Admittedly it is several years old, which makes it a dinosaur in electronic terms, but it is loaded with features, more than I will ever use. I do not have every lens that fits this camera but I have all the lenses that I need for all the photography I want to do. They are all AF and VR when I choose to use those features, and all take sharp, color-true photos. It has about 15,000 shutter trips on the clock but is rated for 100,000 so it is far from being worn out.

So, can someone with expertise in the D90 and newer models tell me what I am missing? Must be something very, very special to justify the cost of a newer camera.

TIA
I have and use a Nikon D90. I have been reviewing... (show quote)


I had a D90 that finally went to my Daughter after I bought my D750. I have had many times when I asked myself why did I give that D90 away and spend all that money on newer equipment when I didn't even learn to use half of the capabilities of the D90. If you still like your D90, if it is still satisfactory for what you want to do then save your money and learn everything there is to learn about the D90. It is old, yes, but it is still a damn good camera even though it is not on the professional level of equipment. So what Nikon doesn't service it anymore! Is it broke, no, it's just broke in with 15,000 snaps.

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Jun 9, 2019 15:49:28   #
Bill P
 
I have been reviewing some of my reference books and I am wondering, what do you get with the newer models that my D90 doesn't have?

A lower bank balance.

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Jun 9, 2019 15:52:21   #
Bill P
 
Here's to "Down with GAS!" Keep on shootin' with what got you to where you are today!. . .Unless you discover it no longer does the job!

Best wishes,
Brian[/quote]

Brian,

I've been preaching this sermon for a long time on this list,, and all I get is a bunch of foolish stuff from clueless people.

I wish you luck. Maybe you'll be more lucky than I.

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