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Jun 7, 2019 16:45:18 #
Toughie and I think you did well. Maybe add a bit of vignette, then you can open up the shadows a bit and turn down the highlights a bit too. I agree with you about the leaves making part of the frame, but I'd remove the twigs. I'm not fond of the branch "stuck" into his back (clone out). Good looking couple. I hope she's not working you.
Jun 7, 2019 17:04:41 #
Jun 7, 2019 17:10:22 #
Some years ago, I was invited to shoot several members of an AfricanAmerican church while they were hosting an anniversary gala for their pastor and family. I set up lights, camera, etc in an adjoining space and when members started coming in for their sitting, virtually all the ladies were dressed in white to very pale colors.
Try that sometime and see how long it takes in pp to achieve some balance in light colored clothing contrasted against very dark skin tones.
Never again unless I could stipulate only dark clothing!
Try that sometime and see how long it takes in pp to achieve some balance in light colored clothing contrasted against very dark skin tones.
Never again unless I could stipulate only dark clothing!
Jun 7, 2019 19:06:54 #
Cheese wrote:
... Perhaps she is just trying to get out of paying for your work.
... Perhaps she is just trying to get out of paying for your work.
Go Figure ... Who knewJun 7, 2019 19:07:47 #
Guzser02 wrote:
It sounds familiar. It sounds like the client that needs to say something bad in order to get you to throw your arms up in the air and say: don't worry, its on me!
These are good, clear, proper exposures.
These are good, clear, proper exposures.
Jun 7, 2019 19:15:13 #
lamiaceae wrote:
The exposure looks correct to me. Perhaps a tad bit more diffuse fill. But the white cloth looks fine with detail. I'm guessing that they are both just really dark. Note lighter tone showing a bit on palm side of fingers. That is the way they are. Actually, I'd be more concerned with the placement of the tree behind the lady's head. If anything on my monitor the background is a bit too bright. But it is not the subject so no issue to me.
I don't like the tree as well, but there is nothing wrong with the exposure. Maybe she doesn't like the contrast between the skin color and the white clothing. But it is what it is
Jun 8, 2019 06:57:07 #
Your client is correct. As others have shown, there is information hidden the shadows that needs to pulled up and made visible. I'm attaching an example that I took when my very white wife wanted her picture taken with a very black man, while they stood in front of a white wall. It took a little post processing but it can be easily done.
Jun 8, 2019 07:35:32 #
tommystrat wrote:
I find this edit to be much more engaging and accessible than the original. The composition of the original is just fine, but lightening the skin tones really added to the overall "feeling" of the image, IMHO.
I agree.
Regardless of actual skin color, it is the perception of the client that needs to be met. Many years ago, I photographed a man with burn scars on his face. I worked up several "versions" proofs and presented them to him and his wife. He just deferred to his wife's choice. She chose the ones that actually emphasized the skin variations. Why? "That is him", she replied. When there are two people involved, the photographer has to determine as to who decides.
The suggestion as to viewing what the client prefers is a proper one. The adage about the beholder and beauty applies.
I felt that the original did not have the facial features exposed enough.
Jun 8, 2019 09:10:10 #
I'm not claiming expertise, but since you are a pro I have to ask how you have calibrated your monitor and have you shot color checker cards, etc. In other words are you sure the skin color is accurate? If it is, there is a discussion starting here about separating skin tones, https://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-595555-1.html hopefully some useful info will show up there. There could be gradations that are bunched together in the shot that should be pulled apart with the curve. Also makes me wonder if LAB mode would help do that on a worth a try basis. Video here, I've only tried it a couple of times, though in his example he is not trying for accurate skin tones. https://phlearn.com/tutorial/get-amazing-colors-without-changing-anything-else/
Jun 8, 2019 12:49:56 #
carl hervol
Loc: jacksonville florida
The problem with shooting blacks is the light is absorb where as the light is reflected in whites I've had this problem when I did weddings the thing you can do is photoshop to lighten there skin only this is not unusual other than that you exposure is right on . 
Jun 8, 2019 13:19:02 #
It seems to me that the answer is to expose to the right (if you have the know-how) and then correct in post.
Bracketing might even be a possibility if you could assume that the subjects would stand reasonably still
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Bracketing might even be a possibility if you could assume that the subjects would stand reasonably still
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