Simple cameras (Page 13): If you use just one body (or similar bodies) most of these problems will go away and you will have a better chance of "being as one" with your camera.

RichardTaylor Loc: Sydney, Australia

Chris T wrote:

Wouldn't it, though, Bill?

You know what, though, Bill ... some things I'd really appreciate if they WERE all the same:

a) the LIVE VIEW button ... fed up of always having to chase it around the camera, as I switch models ...

b) the PLAYBACK button!!! ... what's the matter with the far right position always on the bottom tier?

oh, and one more ...

c) the lens release button ... left of mount, always towards the bottom ... is this TOO MUCH to ask???

If you use just one body (or similar bodies) most of these problems will go away and you will have a better chance of "being as one" with your camera.

Chris T Loc: from England across the pond to New England

RichardTaylor wrote:

If you use just one body (or similar bodies) most of these problems will go away and you will have a better chance of "being as one" with your camera.

Oh, right, Richard ... brilliant suggestion!!!!

mwsilvers Loc: Central New Jersey

Chris T wrote:

You don't think my response of - "NO, it's NOT!" ... was appropriate, Mark?

Again what was the "NO its not!" specifically referring to? Were you agreeing with me or disagreeing with me? If you were disagreeing with me, which part of my post were you disagreeing with and why?

Chris T Loc: from England across the pond to New England

mwsilvers wrote:

Again what was the "NO its not!" specifically referring to? Were you agreeing with me or disagreeing with me? If you were disagreeing with me, which part of my post were you disagreeing with and why?

Mark ... did you MISS my earlier response to this:

"Short memory, huh, Mark?

I had to go back and look - you could've also done the same!!! ...

Here:

"But, for everyone else, it's overpriced and under spec'd and its performance is not as good as similarly priced current cameras."

You were referring to the Df, Mark ... I believe ..."

To wit: "its performance is not as good as similarly priced current cameras." (reference to the Nikon Df)

Bill P

It's hard to compare the Df to a regular production camera. It was a limited production camera to mark some special occasion. So of course it was a bit pricey.

Chris T Loc: from England across the pond to New England

Bill P wrote:

It's hard to compare the Df to a regular production camera. It was a limited production camera to mark some special occasion. So of course it was a bit pricey.

Oh, I see, Bill ... is THAT what it was?

I see there are two different versions - one called Special Edition (silver) ...

The other version is the Classic ... which was/is available - in both silver and black.

So, there seems to be - AT LEAST - three different versions - design-wise, anyway ....

Perhaps - it marked 50 years - since the introduction of the original Nikon F - in 1959?

Abo

There's 13 pages and I haven't read all posts, so forgive me if this is repeating what others may have said:
I believe that making the cameras of today shoot video, involves little more than programing software in the camera. So the cost of video capability is very minor; it's included to cater to those who want to shoot video
as well as those who just want to shoot stills... and they can benefit from the bonus of having video too.

Chris T Loc: from England across the pond to New England

Abo wrote:

There's 13 pages and I haven't read all posts, so forgive me if this is repeating what others may have said:
I believe that making the cameras of today shoot video, involves little more than programing software in the camera. So the cost of video capability is very minor; it's included to cater to those who want to shoot video
as well as those who just want to shoot stills... and they can benefit from the bonus of having video too.

Abo - the original post speculated on an ideal camera - something simple, yet sophisticated, and - lacking all the video features of most of today's cameras. Nikon produced such a beast, about six years ago - the Nikon Df - which is - at once - both simple, and sophisticated, and lacks video. Some users adore the design.

Bill P

Chris T wrote:

Oh, I see, Bill ... is THAT what it was?

I see there are two different versions - one called Special Edition (silver) ...

The other version is the Classic ... which was/is available - in both silver and black.

So, there seems to be - AT LEAST - three different versions - design-wise, anyway ....

Perhaps - it marked 50 years - since the introduction of the original Nikon F - in 1959?

I'm sorry I can't tell you more, that's the kind of stuff that I don't remember, as it means little or nothing to me. All I knew was that it was a special edition camera, but since I am a photographer not a collector, I don't pay that much attention.

The only thing that grabbed my attention to it was the inclusion of controls and a general absence of buttons.

Bill P

Abo wrote:

There's 13 pages and I haven't read all posts, so forgive me if this is repeating what others may have said:
I believe that making the cameras of today shoot video, involves little more than programing software in the camera. So the cost of video capability is very minor; it's included to cater to those who want to shoot video
as well as those who just want to shoot stills... and they can benefit from the bonus of having video too.

I:m not interested in this to chase costs, I'm interested in aiding the general intended use of the product. I would like a more simple camera without all the stuff that doesn't make my photos better, and perhaps by leaving all the video stuff out there would me enough buffer and processing power left to improve write times.

But I'm not in the sales and marketing department.

carl hervol Loc: jacksonville florida

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Chris T Loc: from England across the pond to New England

Bill P wrote:

I'm sorry I can't tell you more, that's the kind of stuff that I don't remember, as it means little or nothing to me. All I knew was that it was a special edition camera, but since I am a photographer not a collector, I don't pay that much attention.

The only thing that grabbed my attention to it was the inclusion of controls and a general absence of buttons.

Don't think the Nikon Df - is intended to be a collector item. The all-silver Pentax K-3 - was definitely intended to be a collector item ... it was my understanding they only made 2500 of them. But, the Nikon Df - is available, NOW, still - six years after its introduction - in both silver and black. It's a camera for the sophisticated user - who doesn't want to bother with video .... it's a sensible choice for the few who want it.

carl hervol Loc: jacksonville florida

This post is getting a little out of hand drop the subject you people sound like an old lady's sowing circle .

Chris T Loc: from England across the pond to New England

carl hervol wrote:

This post is getting a little out of hand drop the subject you people sound like an old lady's sowing circle .

Dying to know, Carl ... what on earth is a "sowing circle" ???

Picturing a bunch of old ladies, out in the middle of a field, somewhere - throwing some seeds on the ground ... cotton, perhaps? ... maybe, they're all just sowing some wild oats - huh, Carl?

carl hervol Loc: jacksonville florida

hit the wrong key sewing not sowing