Watermarks
Sep 3, 2012 12:59:32 #
I was just looking thru so pictures my wife ordered from a photographer and they came with her watermark on the front. I don't think it should be on the pictures we purchased. Am I wrong about this?
Sep 3, 2012 13:09:21 #
Sep 3, 2012 13:23:37 #
Personally I would not allow it.
In a preview shot or on the internet yes but not in my purchased photos.
Sarge69
In a preview shot or on the internet yes but not in my purchased photos.
Sarge69
Sep 3, 2012 14:10:01 #
Only proofs can have a watermark, unless you bought proofs they should be free of any watermark or trade mark. Demand new photos...
Sep 3, 2012 15:26:12 #
I didn't think they should have her watermark on them. I am going to demand new prints
Sep 4, 2012 05:39:47 #
Albo1964 wrote:
I was just looking thru so pictures my wife ordered from a photographer and they came with her watermark on the front. I don't think it should be on the pictures we purchased. Am I wrong about this?
From way back in the film days, MOST pro photographers, studios, etc put their "Watermark" or "TradeName" on the front of the photos, many time with a foil stamp so they really show up. That is what a PRO does.
When I was shooting film and was requested to take photos of some collectibles for a "Club" I put my "mark" on the pictures and one person complained. I responded that since I was giving them a "cut-rate" price since my aunt was involved, any prints would have my "mark" on them. If they wanted it removed, I gave them another price that was 3 times as much!
Pros do it so that someone else does not "Steal" their work or try to scan and reprint at discount prices which would degrade their image.
Sep 4, 2012 05:44:03 #
Newfie-1 wrote:
Only proofs can have a watermark, unless you bought proofs they should be free of any watermark or trade mark. Demand new photos...
ANY photo you purchase from ANYONE can have a "Watermark". If it is a proof, that watermark usually goes across a significant portion of the photo to render it uncopyable.
Final prints from PROS usually have their Studio or Photographer name along with a copyright symbol so that the photos are identifiable as to where they came from. If you don't want any of that marking on the finished product, expect to pay a lot more. Your basic pricing from a PRO is for their expertise and reputation, if you don't want the mark, take your own pics.
Sep 4, 2012 05:55:52 #
On a proof it is understandable ...but not on a purchased photo. Demand new prints.
Sep 4, 2012 08:32:02 #
All of my photos on my site are watermarked for my protection, however I make it very clear to customers that the watermark will not appear on their prints
Sep 4, 2012 08:49:54 #
shutterbug64
Loc: Colorado
I am a portrait photographer of 45+ years. A watermark, logo, copyright, whatever you want to call it can go on whatever print/image a professional wants to put it on. It is his/her creation and in it is all the years of experience to create it. If you are talking about a paper print you received then it will have the professional photographer's copyrighted logo on it. If you didn't want it on then it should have been pre-negotiated and normaly that would be a higher price, as a portrait without a copyright may be reproduced without the makers consent. There goes his livelyhood and he is out of business. That's why the cost is higher to produce one without the watermark/logo. Even though you are the subject in the creation, the creation is still the property of the creator.
Sep 4, 2012 08:52:58 #
Sep 4, 2012 08:54:40 #
shutterbug64 wrote:
I am a portrait photographer of 45+ years. A water... (show quote)
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Sep 4, 2012 11:08:57 #
dspoon2 wrote:
All of my photos on my site are watermarked for my protection, however I make it very clear to customers that the watermark will not appear on their prints
Like your site, Zen does a pretty good job, am dumping Smuggmug since price increase. Looks like Zen should work for me.
Sep 4, 2012 11:49:40 #
All in the contract...you don't want the copyright or watermark you pay more. The Pro lives on what $$ he/she makes and the customer can have copies made almost anywhere without the watermark/copyright which cuts into the Pros $$. It should be in writing that you will have the copyright on the images and agreed upon in the contract. Communication by the Pro is key!!
Sep 4, 2012 12:17:19 #
Photographers will usually have their name or something on phone, but not necessarily on a final print. Some sign pictures individually with special pens and inks. If the "signature water mark covers the majority of the photo but very low opacity-- I have seen this today, as many people have tried to photo and copy pictures... so some photographers are doing this. On pictures that people purchase from me and I permit them to use for personal use, I will watermark in lower right hand corner with one of my photography businesses name or my own name photography ( small ). When one orders pictures is when you want to make sure you request what you want , not afterwards.... 20-20 hindsight rears it ugly head again..
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