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Jun 2, 2019 09:29:11   #
Picture Taker Loc: Michigan Thumb
 
Learn night photography. Just another problem in photography that all the automation in the camera can't help. Life's a bitch

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Jun 2, 2019 09:29:17   #
miked46 Loc: Winter Springs, Florida
 
I had the same experience in Venice, but with Japanese tourists.

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Jun 2, 2019 09:31:44   #
47greyfox Loc: on the edge of the Colorado front range
 
jerryc41 wrote:
Yes, that is a definite problem. I wonder if the popularity of cell phone and iPad cameras has made that worse. In the "old days," relatively few people took pictures.


I’d love to blame the phone/iPod crowd but have seen it repeatedly with every conceivable camera user. A couple years ago, we were on a Viking tour of the St Petersburg Hermitage. Our group of about 15 people or so had front of the crowd entry. In front of practically every painting or object, there was a guy that would literally step in front of the group to get his perfectly framed closeup. Finally, after the guide realized that every one was getting pissed, she spoke to the guy. He ignored her but when his traveling companion also got involved, he looked bewildered and then waited until everyone else viewed then took his pic. He apparently as unaware that he was an a$$40le.

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Jun 2, 2019 09:36:46   #
Imagemine Loc: St. Louis USA
 
People need to do like Aretha Franklin said RESPECT

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Jun 2, 2019 09:48:31   #
Toment Loc: FL, IL
 
People are people. Plan ahead, adapt!
Have fun😃

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Jun 2, 2019 09:58:28   #
elliott937 Loc: St. Louis
 
Bob Eric, please do not give up on cruising. We've been on 13 cruises, mostly in Europe, and have no intention of stoping.

Here's an idea. I've used this at our local St. Louis Zoo, a great place, especially with a camera. I've found that if I put on the sun shield on the front of the lens, people stay away from the front of my camera. I'll often say Thank You, but it always seems to work.

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Jun 2, 2019 09:59:43   #
DebAnn Loc: Toronto
 
pmorin wrote:
Having recently returned from a monthlong trip to Europe, I wanted to rant just a bit about the way the tourists seem to have no respect for anyone but themselves. They will walk in front of your camera, hold their iPhone up in front of your lens just as you snap, walk into you as your setting up because they’re looking at a cell phone or as the case in this photo, just totally screw with your shot. Yes, I can clone it out, but why can’t people just have some consideration. This dude just walked up and set his camera in front of mine while I was shooting in Venice. His shot could have been done on the other side of me, there was plenty of room that late at night. Took all I had to not bump him over the side of the canal

The local people are fine, but it’s mostly the hordes that get off the Cruise Ships that are such as#0/e$. And of course dipsticks like this guy.
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Unfortunately inconsiderate people are everywhere and unless you point out their crime, I don't think they even realize what they're doing. At our local art gallery, people frequently pass right in front of you when you're clearly studying a picture. Usually I say, "Excuse me, am I invisible?" That wakes them Up!

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Jun 2, 2019 10:01:40   #
Rongnongno Loc: FL
 
Funny thread that illustrate why people become rude more than anything.

By the way, folks uncaring? Not en exclusivity in Europe or anywhere.

Live with it, shrug it off or better yet, stop going to crowded place where mediocrity is added to mediocrity.

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Jun 2, 2019 10:10:09   #
sidpearce
 
In the 1940s after the war,and into the early 60s people would say sorry if they saw you taking a picture and they intruded into it.

Now I will only do photography in popular tourist locations out of season and either early or late in the day.

This applies in any country including the US. Politness has now by and large disappeared in the World.

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Jun 2, 2019 10:21:28   #
2mdman
 
You really need to call them out like the girl that climbed over the marking tape to trample on the poppies so she could get her picture taken or the couple that tried to cut in line at the Duomo ahead of 50 other people. They know what they're doing and will continue until told to stop. Hard to do when you're polite yourself but nothing else works.

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Jun 2, 2019 10:43:43   #
DanCulleton
 
People are the problem!
But don’t fret, all the countries of the world are busy working on a solution!

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Jun 2, 2019 10:48:52   #
sbohne
 
Try shooting a wedding sometime. During my career, I had people step in front of me during the processional, the recessional, the kiss at the altar (they'd use flash, then the minister cussed me out!), cake cutting, first dance, you name it. I even had one bitch who was taking snapshots (a local real estate agent) CLOSE THE DOOR on me as I tried to enter to photograph the bride getting ready, saying "There's no more room." Yeah, people can be dicks...

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Jun 2, 2019 11:09:48   #
Dikdik Loc: Winnipeg, Canada
 
pmorin wrote:
Having recently returned from a monthlong trip to Europe, I wanted to rant just a bit about the way the tourists seem to have no respect for anyone but themselves.


Could the tourists have been Americans? I had a similar experience in New York City about 40 years back... my first encounter with really rude people.

I often see couples taking photos of each other at a scenic site and ask them if they would like to have me take a picture of both of them; they are generally happy for me to do this. I show them the pix after and see if they are happy with them, and occasionally take some additional ones.

I've been unknowingly inconsiderate myself about 40 years back. I was taking photos at a wedding for a friend and there was a professional photographer there also. My F2 and Metz strobe were triggering his slave strobes. He politely told me about the problem, and I became far more considerate. I had no idea it was an issue.

Dik

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Jun 2, 2019 11:31:06   #
dino21 Loc: McAllen, TX
 
bpulv wrote:
The problem may be the way cruise ship tours are operated. On a cruise my wife and I took last year around the British Isles, we stopped at eight ports of call in ten days. At only one port did the ship stay over night and allow us a second full day. Almost all cruise ships stop at each port for only one short day. They typically arrive in port just before dawn. By the time they are ready to disembark all the passengers going ashore, half the morning is shot. The ships typically sail in the late afternoon following at least a couple of hours getting the passengers back aboard. As a result, there is a lot of pressure on passengers, most of which have never been to the location and may never be there again, to see as much as they can in the very little time they have been afforded. It should be no wonder that some tourist that feeling the pressure of seeing and photographing as much as possible in a limited time frame may become oblivious to other photographers or act with short tempers.

Although we have been on several cruises and port tours, our British Isles cruise provides a typical example. Our ship's last port of call was La Harve, France. We had never been to France, so instead of taking the close by Normandy tour, we took the Parris Tour. It was a two hour drive to Parris, the bus rushed around the city. We drove quickly around the traffic circle at the Arc de Triomphe where photography was very difficult from the bus. Because the tour guide was narrating the tour from the front of the bus and we were in the back, we were trying to pick out one sight while she was talking about the next. As a result, I have a whole bunch of pictures that I have no idea of what they are of. The only real stop we made was at Notre Dame. There was sufficient time to photograph a decent amount of the interior. After that, it was back on the bus which drove by the Eiffel Tower over a mile away. A couple of us had to talk nicely to the bus driver to get him to agree to stop long enough to jump off the bus and shoot a few frames (less than five minutes) after which we drove another two hours back to the ship.

For the most part, photographers are an afterthought for the tour operators. It starts with the buses themselves. The majority of the new European tour busses have polarized windows that not only preclude the use of a polarizing filter on your camera, but also amplify reflections on the windows from the inside of the bus. Because they try to cram too much into a tour so they can say that you will see everything, the busses often fly past the sights you most want to photograph. Then there are the "photo stops". Depending on the tour, there may be one or two and they are often too short to get good photographs because there is no time to go far from the herd and everyone is climbing over one another to get a shot. Add to that the fact that there may be five or more buses from the same ship following each other and making the same stops at the same times, it is a wonder that there isn't more discourtesy.
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I think the problem is mainly the "me" attitude and the general non common sense and lack of respectability that is prevalent now. I have been in Europe also and am amazed at tourist, (especially Americans) that totally have no respect for anything or anyone other than themselves. Was at at Dachau Concentration Camp and these lowlifes were climbing all over memorials, signs etc to get a damned picture of them acting like morons. It made me ashamed to be associated with people that would show so much disrespect for the history of the place.

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Jun 2, 2019 11:31:44   #
BebuLamar
 
My wife likes to travel so we traveled often. We never take a cruise or a tour. We always do it on our own. We don't see as many places as a tour would but we can spend more time on where we feel need more time and less where we don't feel like staying.

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