dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho

Thank you for posting the truth about teachers pay that almost everyone has no idea of the truth. My ex wife is a teacher. She made X amount of dollars per year. She could choose to have that amount of money divided into 9 months or 12, just as you said.

Dennis

cdayton

Wow, $60K in NYC - must live like kings. Probably have penthouses on the Upper East Side and dine at Michelin restaurants. By the way, longhand has been antiquated for about two generations now. Even I learned to type in the 10th grade and that was 1950.

RV Loc: Chicago

You get what you vote for! Look at the Dem Socialist progressive agenda and the cities they control and maybe people will become concerned and begin to vote for common sense candidates!!!

dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho

You also learned long hand cursive in the 1950's too. Typing is not an alternative for writing, just another method of communicating by the written word.

Dennis

will47 Loc: Indianapolis, IN

Desert Gecko Loc: desert southwest, USA

Rather than dismiss it outright, why not actually look into it a bit before condemning it?

Our local, small district went to a four-day schedule a few years ago with no resulting lower standardized testing scores. The area's primary employer and the County itself -- together employing the majority of area workers -- are on a four-day work week, so most here are in favor of a matching school schedule which allows parents more time with their children. Still, academic success was the primary concern before the district made the change, and available evidence suggested there would be no detriment caused by changing to a four-day week. Testing since the change has confirmed this is indeed the case.

You should know that there is no reduction in classroom hours. Districts must meet state-mandated minimums. Districts on a four-day week have longer school days and fewer days off -- and some, even a slightly longer school year.

Why don't you read this study, one of many you can find with very little effort, then come back with an educated opinion:
https://www.mitpressjournals.org/doi/pdfplus/10.1162/EDFP_a_00165

1Feathercrest Loc: NEPA

I believe the term for that was "Bushida" which was supposed to give the eater some of the powers of the eaten.

One Rude Dawg Loc: Athol, ID

I guess this means that the " teachers " will stop bitching about being under paid and over worked.

Picture Taker Loc: Michigan Thumb

NO, they will more money. They will more time to spend it.

will47 Loc: Indianapolis, IN

A big problem in Indiana is that when money is given to schools the "administrators", who do very little if anything, give themselves raises. Very little trickles down to the people who do the bulk of the work, the teachers. The union knows this and does nothing. It is a typical BS story.

robertjerl Loc: Corona, California

Towards the end of my teaching career (retired 2007) I had come to know many young teachers who could not write or read in cursive or were very poor at it.
In my history, geography and government classes in addition to the subject I taught research and study skills, reading skills, vocabulary and how to read and write in cursive. One month into the school year I required all work turned in to be either typed or in cursive, tests done in the room were to be answered in cursive. When students complained their writing looked awful I explained it would get better with practice and they were not graded on how it looked, only on the content. But they would lose points if they didn't at least make the effort. By the end of the year most were comfortable using cursive. A few told me that other teachers told them to print, not use cursive - my reply "You mean that teacher can't read or write in cursive?" The students caught on to what that meant very fast. And some were very proud they could do something that some of their teachers couldn't.

My last 13 years the high school I was at had aprx 5000 students on a campus built for 2500 at most. The school went multi-track, 3 track system and had portable bungalow rooms jammed in everywhere they would fit. The school day went 7:30 to 3:10 to make up for the fewer days in class. So two breaks plus Winter/Christmas and Easter/Spring break. We had about 1200 in University Preparatory Program*, Gifted, AP and Computer Science Magnet center classes, about 1400 new immigrants still learning English (most put on the same track) and the rest regular kids. For the last 10 years I was there the graduating classes were either #1 or tied for #1 in the state for the number of students graduating who had already been accepted to a University of California campus. The AP program produced 500-600 or more passing grades in 4 subject fields each year.
Yet because the ESL and regular kids test scores were low we regularly failed to make the "improvement goal" and were constantly threatened with being taken over by the county board of education or the state.
Weird thing, winning awards and many high level grads on the one hand and being told we were a failure and would be taken over on the other hand.

I usually taught one of two classes during our breaks (like teaching summer school) we often had to share classrooms and use more than one room (roaming teachers, that burden was rotated around through the faculty to ease the burden) I usually had to leave my room during my conference period so a "roamer" could use the room. If it was a new teacher I and others often stayed in our room and helped them as a mentor.

I got up at 4:30 to be at campus by the the 7:20 passing bell for 1st period (44 mile commute), usually didn't leave campus before 4 or 5 PM. Wrote lesson plans and graded papers until anywhere from 10-12, did same on Saturdays but Sunday I went to the railway museum and operated streetcars and conducted on trains to relax.

*I taught World History in the UPP for 7 years. The students who meet the goals of the contract they and their parents signed were guaranteed admission to Cal State University at Los Angeles, aid packages if needed or help getting into the school they wanted for their major. They also got Saturday lab classes at the university, field trips, summer internships at places like JPL etc. It was such a good deal that I had several Gifted students who messed up their yearly tests on purpose and dropped out of Gifted to get into UPP. Gifted and AP students weren't allowed in UPP because their programs already had lots of money and goodies. We had almost 300 slots in UPP and a waiting list of over 500.

When I retired the math, science and engineering departments at Cal State LA were all sponsors of UPP and the Engineering Dept at Cal State was getting 40% of their freshmen from the two high schools in East Los Angeles that had the UPP program. JPL asked for more interns and started hiring some of them for paid jobs during their breaks. How many kids could brag that their summer job in high school was at the Jet Propulsion Lab? JPL started picking students and paying their way through to a degree in return for working for them when they graduated.

There is a difference between "teachers" and "educators" with the latter mostly being out of classroom admin and coordinator types (far too many of them in my opinion).

Cykdelic Loc: Now outside of Chiraq & Santa Fe, NM

Teachers are paid relatively well in most areas and consistent with cost of living, work year, job security, etc.

traderjohn Loc: New York City

1950....That BS. I graduated from grammar school in 1957. We had penmanship class. I did not have typing classes in HS. Sixty K for about nine and a half months that's pretty good. Really penthouses and fine restaurants...get real. You somehow bypassed middle-class. If you paid them more how much more would they do?? Would the kids be smarter?? Have a greater understanding?? That was the reasoning behind the last raise. Be employable and I don't mean Mickey D's. I can't remember the year but there was an article in The NY Times that reported that 3/4's of the incoming Freshman class at CUNY needed remedial classes. I don't even what to think what their SAT scores would be.

AirWalter Loc: Tipp City, Ohio

I think it is part of dumbing down America so that someday someone will be able to easily walk in and take over this country.

AirWalter Loc: Tipp City, Ohio