Which is the better value? Nikon 24-120 F4 or the Nikon 24-120 F3.5-5.6 & tell me why
May 21, 2019 14:17:10 #
GoofyNewfie wrote:
You are correct.
Prime lenses have a fixed focal length and are not zoom lenses.
Prime lenses have a fixed focal length and are not zoom lenses.
I wonder how long that will continue to the definition for a prime lens? There was a time (before zooms) when prime meant precisely that, prime. Prime as compared to 3rd party lenses which seemed to be made from Coke bottles and suffered from terrible optics. But, they were cheap. Pros wouldn't go near them. The equipment they used was considered pro, or "prime". Many of today's zooms surpass yesterday's fixed focal length lenses. In the real world today there are many pros that use zooms for the majority of their work, doen't try to tell them their zoom isn't prime. Prime, not prime, it's all just an exercise in semantics. Unless you're comparing a quality lens to a Coke bottle
May 21, 2019 14:30:50 #
Rich1939 wrote:
I wonder how long that will continue to the defini... (show quote)
Fixed focal length would be an easier to understand term than prime.
Now, some people are using fixed aperture to mean a constant maximum aperture, despite the fact that ther are some truly fixed aperture lenses out there. Mirror lenses, some specialty lenses like the Portragon that have a fixed, meaning only one, aperture setting.
Bokeh is more often used now as a “cool” word for shallow depth of field, though it is intended to define the quality of blur, not quantity.
Languages evolve, despite our resistance.
May 21, 2019 14:35:58 #
Wow, this place is full of the same people that think a circular polarizer is so called because it turns around. I've been in photography since 1967, much of that time professionally. I have never ever heard the term prime applied to third party lenses. NEVER!! Throughout my career, it has meant a lens of a single focal length.
And Mr. Wallace, with all due respect, you need to take your own advice. Look up prime lens.
As to the lens mentioned, the f4 version is the only one with VR. I understand some thing VR reduces sharpness, but you all know how I feel about our constant search for maximum sharpness. I have the f4 and I'm quite pleased.
And Mr. Wallace, with all due respect, you need to take your own advice. Look up prime lens.
As to the lens mentioned, the f4 version is the only one with VR. I understand some thing VR reduces sharpness, but you all know how I feel about our constant search for maximum sharpness. I have the f4 and I'm quite pleased.
May 21, 2019 14:38:09 #
May 21, 2019 14:42:07 #
LWW
Loc: Banana Republic of America
rjaywallace wrote:
Prime lens vs. a slower zoom lens. If you are still confused, look up the definition of “prime lens” and “faster lens” and compare those two with the definitions of “zoom lens” and “slower lens”.
A 24-120 is not a ‘prime’ lens.
May 21, 2019 14:47:15 #
DAN Phillips wrote:
I'm seriously debating between these 2 lens and need some honest info on both of them. I value the opinion of most of the people here, so please help.
Dan,
I own the Nikon 24-120mm f/4 and it is always on my camera, unless I need to use a different lens, say my 105mm f2.8, or my 20mm f1.8G for a specific purpose. the 24-120mm F/4 is a very good lens.
Here is a link to the review that I read when I was looking, and made my decision to buy this lens. The link below will take you to the "Summary" page, but you can easily read the complete review.
https://photographylife.com/reviews/nikon-24-120mm-f4g-vr/4
May 21, 2019 14:56:43 #
LWW wrote:
A 24-120 is not a ‘prime’ lens.
Depends on your definition of prime.
I learned this here earlier.
May 21, 2019 15:07:31 #
Architect1776 wrote:
Depends on your definition of prime.
I learned this here earlier.
I learned this here earlier.
Ha!
It’s either the correct version or one based on “alternative facts”
May 21, 2019 15:15:37 #
GoofyNewfie wrote:
Ha!
It’s either the correct version or one based on “alternative facts”
It’s either the correct version or one based on “alternative facts”
May 21, 2019 15:26:40 #
Any lens that Nikon puts a gold ring around the barrel of, you know they are proud of.
May 21, 2019 15:51:36 #
LMurray
Loc: North Orange County, CA
Rich1939 wrote:
I wonder how long that will continue to the defini... (show quote)
In 40 some years never heard prime defined quite that way. It's always been prime fixed format, zoom multiple. Not semantics because two different things not two words for the same or similar.
May 21, 2019 16:17:52 #
The F/4 is a newer version of the F/3.5, resolving focus problems at the wide open aperture. You'll save a bundle by buying the older version and shooting at F/8 - F/11.
Also, the F/4 is a "G" lens, which won't allow you to manually select aperture, generally not a problem for hobbyists.
Also, the F/4 is a "G" lens, which won't allow you to manually select aperture, generally not a problem for hobbyists.
May 21, 2019 16:26:06 #
LMurray wrote:
In 40 some years never heard prime defined quite that way. It's always been prime fixed format, zoom multiple. Not semantics because two different things not two words for the same or similar.
Guess I've been at it a bit longer (60+ years). Prime at one time meant exactly that, primary lens. Every lens was a fixed focal length. (I'm sure someone some where is going to find a 'zoom' that was built to cover the launching of the USS Constitution) I'll accept your strict definition of 'semantics' though.
May 21, 2019 16:53:50 #
RichinSeattle wrote:
The F/4 is a newer version of the F/3.5, resolving focus problems at the wide open aperture. You'll save a bundle by buying the older version and shooting at F/8 - F/11.
Also, the F/4 is a "G" lens, which won't allow you to manually select aperture, generally not a problem for hobbyists.
Also, the F/4 is a "G" lens, which won't allow you to manually select aperture, generally not a problem for hobbyists.
You can easily manually set the aperture on G lenses if you know how to.
Perhaps only hobbyists know how.
May 21, 2019 17:11:27 #
rjaywallace wrote:
Prime lens vs. a slower zoom lens. If you are still confused, look up the definition of “prime lens” and “faster lens” and compare those two with the definitions of “zoom lens” and “slower lens”.
You sure he put a prime lens up there? They both look like zoom lenses.
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