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May 18, 2019 15:09:57   #
holifield4
 
leftj wrote:
Why haven't they had the opportunity to use a DSLR?



$$, mainly. Their parents haven’t been able to purchase, and the school’s advisors in the past haven’t taken the initiative to buy a camera for the program. One of the previous advisors said “why should I spend the funds on that? They are kids, they don’t appreciate anything”

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May 18, 2019 15:11:41   #
holifield4
 
PHRubin wrote:
BTW - where are my manners? WELCOME TO UHH!



Thanks!

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May 18, 2019 15:15:57   #
leftj Loc: Texas
 
holifield4 wrote:
$$, mainly. Their parents haven’t been able to purchase, and the school’s advisors in the past haven’t taken the initiative to buy a camera for the program. One of the previous advisors said “why should I spend the funds on that? They are kids, they don’t appreciate anything”


How are they all going to share one camera?

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May 18, 2019 15:19:10   #
holifield4
 
We have the point and shoot, and they have their phones. But it will just be one at a time working the sports events. I’ll be there with them and help them grow their abilities. I’m also hoping that by the end of the next school year, we will be able to purchase a second camera.

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May 18, 2019 15:52:10   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
leftj wrote:
Why haven't they had the opportunity to use a DSLR?

When? during their life? Recently? Last year?
Not every family has one?

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May 18, 2019 16:01:40   #
LMurray Loc: North Orange County, CA
 
rgrenaderphoto wrote:
Just have them take images, photograph everything. Or give them specific assignments on basic subject matter. Show them how to focus and let the leave their cameras in <gasp> Program mode. When everybody is comfortable, introduce A & S modes. Find the more advanced students and show them Manual mode.


Frankly I don't understand the facination/obsession with manual mode. Yes when I started in manual, in the 60-70's with F2-FM-F3 there wasn't a choice but when I got my N70 then F100 I went P and never looked back except when using earlier bodies I still have. Yes, I still shoot film, I consider digital as ok, more immediate and cheaper but for best I still use film. But back to topic in P if you aren't happy with aperature of shutter they can be changed but 99% of the time the camera's correct. I have ASA/ISO set at 100 - 6400 Auto. Not to mention what a blessing autofocus is for 71 year old eyes. So, everybody keeps ranting about the advances in technology and that film is dead blah blah but at the same time extolling a roughly 160 year old method of shooting i.e. shooting manually. Part of this fantastic advance in technology is allowing it to do the work, while keeping an eye on it otherwise why not just use a manual camera? Oh! That's right! Nobody makes a fully manual digital do they? And with the gelded (Ken Rockwell term) lenses you can't shoot a digital in real fully manual mode.

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May 18, 2019 16:14:03   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
LMurray wrote:
Frankly I don't understand the facination/obsession with manual mode. Yes when I started in manual, in the 60-70's with F2-FM-F3 there wasn't a choice but when I got my N70 then F100 I went P and never looked back except when using earlier bodies I still have. Yes, I still shoot film, I consider digital as ok, more immediate and cheaper but for best I still use film. But back to topic in P if you aren't happy with aperature of shutter they can be changed but 99% of the time the camera's correct. I have ASA/ISO set at 100 - 6400 Auto. Not to mention what a blessing autofocus is for 71 year old eyes. So, everybody keeps ranting about the advances in technology and that film is dead blah blah but at the same time extolling a roughly 160 year old method of shooting i.e. shooting manually. Part of this fantastic advance in technology is allowing it to do the work, while keeping an eye on it otherwise why not just use a manual camera? Oh! That's right! Nobody makes a fully manual digital do they? And with the gelded (Ken Rockwell term) lenses you can't shoot a digital in real fully manual mode.
Frankly I don't understand the facination/obsessio... (show quote)


Whatever mode gets you the images you want and like - there is no "gospel" mode.
If things are not turning out the way you want them to, try another mode.
You may wind up in manual, you may not. Certain modes are more beneficial in certain instances than other modes.
The same with metering and focusing points.
Just because certain settings work for certain people doesn't mean that you have to use them.
You are not those people.

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May 19, 2019 07:24:10   #
traderjohn Loc: New York City
 
holifield4 wrote:
Thank you for realizing what I was asking! I’m not expecting my students to be magazine quality photographers the very first time they touch the camera. I do, however, want them to grow as a student, a photographer, and an all-around better person. I have a couple that loves photography, but they’ve never had the opportunity to use a dSLR.... I just wanted to figure out how to teach them the best way possible.

"I do, however, want them to grow as a student,"
Then make sure they are at grade level as being an educated student. That would be a greater gift.

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