Thanks everyone for providing immediate answers. Including guidance/directions.
I just wanted to confirm that RAW vs Raw+jpeg or jpeg only were using the same data processing for each type of file.
Yes I do shoot mostly with both because I want to be able send photos immediately. I Use DPP4, PSE15+, and On1 Photo 10 (not ON1 RAW because my computer is very old with a slow video card). I normally will use DPP4 to convert all raw files to 16bit TIFF for post processing with ON1 Photo 10. ON1 is older and does not recognize my Canon 80D.
I shot RAW + JPEG until I realized I never opened the JPEG'S. Now it is RAW only. Less space, less time to write to the buffer. I never post pictures, even here. I cull ruthlessly and edit only keepers in LR.
Just me,
C
I think the answer to your question is very simple. I am inclined to think that a RAW plua Jpeg, produces the same RAW as a RAW shot alone. Your question is quite clear to me, and requires no other clarification.
mwsilvers wrote:
Only shoot raw if you are intending to post process all or most of you images. If you will rarely post process, stick with jpegs. If you export unedited raw images to jpegs, as a general rule they may look flater and duller with less sharpening or contrast compared to jpegs straight out the camera. The advantage of shooting raw only comes into play if you post process.
I shoot raw only. I edit every image I keep.
I export edited raw files to jpegs in my raw processor of choice, DXO Photolab Elite.
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Shooting RAW is best as you say, and will store all of the data for future editing... instead of a destructive compressed Jpeg, but...
setting the camera to shoot Raw + small jpeg, assigns a preview of the image that will allow easy identification any time, anywhere and on any device.
I shoot Raw & Jpeg because I use the Jpeg like the old contact sheet for editing & culling images with lesser impact because they load faster, anything I keep I process from RAW (old habits are hard to break).
CHG_CANON wrote:
There's probably a deep question here in "is there a better quality" ....
Do you plan to edit your RAW files? What software are you planning to use?
Whether you shoot JPEG or RAW, how are you planning to use the resulting image files?
Not questioning your work flow if it works for you, but, if you installed a program like Irfanview, you could browse your RAW files, and Irfanview would show you your camera's in-bedded jpeg view from which you could click a keyboard shortcut to edit the RAW file in the editor of your choice.
This would save you having to shoot in RAW + JPEG.
I haven't tried it, but believe that Irfanview would convert your RAW to JPEG, either on a single file basis or a batch operation, so, if you wanted those JPEG files after the shoot, they are still available to you.
Caruso
I shot both RAW + JPEG. RAW is what's called an undestructive file (can't spell!) in other words it retains all the original data without damaging or making permanent changes to the file. On the other side JPEG losses it's files data every time changes are made.
JBGLADSTONE wrote:
Thanks everyone for providing immediate answers. Including guidance/directions.
I just wanted to confirm that RAW vs Raw+jpeg or jpeg only were using the same data processing for each type of file.
Yes I do shoot mostly with both because I want to be able send photos immediately. I Use DPP4, PSE15+, and On1 Photo 10 (not ON1 RAW because my computer is very old with a slow video card). I normally will use DPP4 to convert all raw files to 16bit TIFF for post processing with ON1 Photo 10. ON1 is older and does not recognize my Canon 80D.
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Yes, they are the 'same data' from the sensor. The RAW file is the the sensor data in an unprocessed form with the camera settings. The JPEG is the same RAW data with camera settings then processed by the camera. The DPP software recognizes the camera settings such as sharpening, picture style, white balance, noise processing, brightness, contrast, lens profile, etc, from the 80D. The Canon software can be used to modify and / or otherwise override these values. Converting to 16-bit TIFF is a appropriate method to transform the RAW file into a format the other software can operate on, although PSE can edit only 8-bit TIFFs.
JBGLADSTONE wrote:
My question is, is there a better quality by selecting Raw only vs Raw +jpeg or jpeg only vs Raw+jpeg?
When I'm on a trip to an interesting place and I know that I will want to post a few photos in Facebook or send a few to friends, I shoot RAW + jpeg. My Fuji camera can send photos wirelessly to my iPhone where I can process them and mail them out. It can send only jpeg's because the RAW shots are too large. Fuji is known for the incredible quality of its jpegs. When I return from the trip I process the RAW photos in Lightroom and Photoshop.
Raw 95% of the time. When I go to a car show or go on a motorcycle run I save in both RAW and jpeg-Fine on 2 cards. Saves time when I post on the forums I frequent.
Bent
bike42
Loc: Boynton Beach Fl & Bridgewater, NJ
This summer I will be shooting a golf outing for a charity. I intend to shoot Raw & JPEG. I will download the JPG pictures from cartd number 2 (Nikon D500) to their computer, and they will show the pictures all during dinner. I will take the RAW pictures home, and post process them as necessary. They might send the RAW pictures out to the individual groups (I intend to take a picture of each group on the tee).
mwsilvers wrote:
Only shoot raw if you are intending to post process all or most of you images. If you will rarely post process, stick with jpegs. If you export unedited raw images to jpegs, as a general rule they may look flater and duller with less sharpening or contrast compared to jpegs straight out the camera. The advantage of shooting raw only comes into play if you post process.
I shoot raw only. I edit every image I keep.
I export edited raw files to jpegs in my raw processor of choice, DXO Photolab Elite.
Only shoot raw if you are intending to post proces... (
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You are experiencing an anomaly with your jpg engine. Either you are wrong, have really outdated software, or your current software is setup wrong.
I shoot RAW+JPEG because, at times, there are photos that I don’t intend to do much processing with. Yes, I can and do make that decision once in a while.
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