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May 1, 2019 13:54:50   #
wmclark
 
When I take an hour of video and create an instant movie in Adobie Elements (no audio) it takes Elements over an hour and a half to render the video and produce a video H.264 or what would be played on a computer. Nothing fancy just home use.
Is this normal or time to upgrade my windows computer. Stay with windows or apple.
And if I did get the 'better/best' desktop what rendering time could I expect.
Bill C

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May 1, 2019 14:05:40   #
jeep_daddy Loc: Prescott AZ
 
Yes, totally.

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May 1, 2019 14:22:07   #
gilpog
 
Yes. Totally... to what?

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May 1, 2019 14:36:56   #
art pear Loc: North Dakota
 
That seems like a long time for straight video with no special effects. I do video for a living and it seems you need to upgrade.

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May 1, 2019 14:38:51   #
bsprague Loc: Lacey, WA, USA
 
Output render times vary based on a lot of variables. Lots of editing, effects, quality settings, color grading, etc can extend the output render. That's because output rendering has to go back to the original source clips and, frame by frame, make new footage.

Your ratio of 1 to 1.5 is quite good. It is "totally acceptable".

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May 1, 2019 14:40:49   #
bsprague Loc: Lacey, WA, USA
 
art pear wrote:
That seems like a long time for straight video with no special effects. I do video for a living and it seems you need to upgrade.


Premiere Elements does not take advantage of the GPU or "CUDA" like Premiere Pro. So, upgrading to more computer power may not do that much.

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May 1, 2019 15:16:13   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
wmclark wrote:
When I take an hour of video and create an instant movie in Adobie Elements (no audio) it takes Elements over an hour and a half to render the video and produce a video H.264 or what would be played on a computer. Nothing fancy just home use.
Is this normal or time to upgrade my windows computer. Stay with windows or apple.
And if I did get the 'better/best' desktop what rendering time could I expect.
Bill C


Render time is affected by at least these variables:

Video format: 480P? 720P? 1080P? 4K?
Processor: Speed? Model? #Cores?
Drive speed: 5400 RPM? 7200 RPM? SSD? SSD Type?
RAM: 8 GB = slow, 16 GB = adequate, more is better!
Graphics Processor: on board stock? Dedicated? Speed? VRAM?
Software and Platform?

Do not run Premiere Pro on a Mac. It runs much better on Windows. Final Cut Pro (MAC only) is optimized for Macs, and the current version is really, REALLY sweet. DaVinci Resolve is also fine for use on Macs or Windows.

My five year old iMac with quad-core i5, 16 GB RAM, and 2TB SSD renders 1080P for the Web from Final Cut Pro at about 60-80 seconds per minute of finished video. That number varies wildly for other pixel densities, compression ratios, etc.

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May 1, 2019 15:16:59   #
jeep_daddy Loc: Prescott AZ
 
gilpog wrote:
Yes. Totally... to what?


To it being normal for video to render so slowly in Premiere Elements.

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May 1, 2019 15:22:02   #
Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
 
wmclark wrote:
When I take an hour of video and create an instant movie in Adobie Elements (no audio) it takes Elements over an hour and a half to render the video and produce a video H.264 or what would be played on a computer. Nothing fancy just home use.
Is this normal or time to upgrade my windows computer. Stay with windows or apple.
And if I did get the 'better/best' desktop what rendering time could I expect.
Bill C


Not knowing what you are using right now, it is impossible to determine if a faster computer will help. On the other hand, rendering 60 mins of video in 90 mins is actually pretty decent. But image resolution has a lot to do with it as well.

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May 1, 2019 15:48:27   #
Bobspez Loc: Southern NJ, USA
 
It depends on your bitrate, frame size and what edits you do. Just rendering an existing 1920x1080 24fps H264 mp4 file, 16,000 kbps bitrate, with no edits, takes me about 10 minutes render time for a 4 minute video, creating a 460MB file. It has sound, but sound adds a negligible amount of render time to the video.
Rendering the same 4 minute video with many cuts, transitions, cropping and color grading can take an hour or more. I only do a few videos a year, so I'm fine with taking a meal break while the computer is rendering. If I was doing several videos a day I might be bothered by the render time.
Not knowing what your specific input or output is or how many videos you edit, I'd say your results are pretty good at present.

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May 1, 2019 17:39:14   #
wmclark
 
To all -
Thanks , at least I am in the ball park. I wish I was better versed in video but I only do several a year.
Will keep the old win 7 machine for now.
Cheers,
BC

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May 2, 2019 12:11:16   #
Harry0 Loc: Gardena, Cal
 
Yup. Without all the details, it's hard to make an assessment.
My friend sent me a 22 minute video in .ts. Took maybe 30 minutes to make a 264 .mkv.
The same video in .mov took almost an hour to do the same. same settings.
OTOH I just took my Avatar Bluray 36gb movie, rendered it to just movie, Eng subtitles, 2.1 stereo h265. Took @ 5 hours, and I have a 1.7gb movie file for my Kodi PC.
YMMV, for each and every render.

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