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Apr 21, 2019 15:12:41   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
RRS wrote:
Nice set up!


Here it is being used and the results.


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Apr 21, 2019 17:17:18   #
ecurb1105
 
JBGLADSTONE wrote:
Hi All, first time posting and years of reading.

I have noticed my manfrotto tripod creeps at various angles. I locked the various lock down knobs but still movement. Oh I do know if the wife walks across the floor I will have creep/movement.
I mainly noticed this when I zoom in for manual focus in the live view on my Canon 80D. I think I now know why some my photos are soft.
Now I have taken my old Bogen tripod with a 3025 head, cleaned the various arms and adjusted the legs for pinch. No movement but a heavy tripod compared to the Manfrotto.

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Hi All, first time posting and years of reading. b... (show quote)


Get rid of the ball head. That is your problem.

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Apr 21, 2019 18:53:19   #
lhardister Loc: Brownsville, TN
 
JBGLADSTONE wrote:
Hi All, first time posting and years of reading.

I have noticed my manfrotto tripod creeps ….
I mainly noticed this when I zoom in for manual focus in the live view ….

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I am not sure what you mean by "creep", but I have long noticed that when I am attempting to manually focus a long lens in live view, upon releasing the focusing ring the assembly seems to "sag" a little bit. For example, when focusing upon the moon in this manner, upon release of the focus ring the moon will appear to rise up in the LCD live view (or the lens "sags" downward, causing that appearance on the LCD). After much tightening of ball heads, etc., the same happens, even using a very sturdy Sirui K-40 ball head. I have concluded that, in my case at least, there is simply some slight play, which I refer to as "sag", between the mounting rings on the respective lenses and cameras that I use. It is especially pronounced when using a third-party lens attached to my Sony a6000 via an adapter, all of which provides more opportunity for play or sag between the various connecting rings. At long focal lengths and high magnifications, even slight play or sag appears very noticeable.

Also, I think that there is some possibility of some "play" at the camera tripod mounting point. The whole assembly is attached to the tripod by a single small screw which screws into the camera base for only 1/4" or so, and that only hand tightened. The torque put on this point by a long lens tending to rotate the camera forward and downward around this point has to be relatively great.

I am thinking that I need some sort of long lens support device which would provide some degree of support for the camera/lens assembly at at least two points, but have not yet tried any such device.

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Apr 21, 2019 19:51:58   #
RRS Loc: Not sure
 
Architect1776 wrote:
Here it is being used and the results.


Nice work. How close is that set up about to tip over with that much weight on the head? I have a Manfrotto tripod that will do the same thing and I also have the same head but I've always had to put some added weight on the other end of the head for balance. I replaced the center shaft with their very short shaft and just moved the legs all the way out and try to get as close to the ground as possible. My tripod is the o55XPROB.

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Apr 21, 2019 20:45:36   #
carl hervol Loc: jacksonville florida
 
If its a aluminum try pod just tighten with a Allan wrench that why they give you one I think its metric .

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Apr 21, 2019 21:14:03   #
Floyd Loc: Misplaced Texan in Florence, Alabama
 
Also, using the drop in plate will allow one to move camera and lens forward or back to a point of balance when horizontal, greatly reducing up or down slippage after focus.

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Apr 21, 2019 22:17:36   #
Robert Bailey Loc: Canada
 
I always carry a set of several wrenches that fit various parts of my tripod.
Now and then it needs to be adjusted.
I assume it is the legs that are slowly slipping.
If it is the ball head that is sagging, you may need a larger ball head.

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Apr 22, 2019 09:52:54   #
BartHx
 
carl hervol wrote:
If its a aluminum try pod just tighten with a Allan wrench that why they give you one I think its metric .


With mine, the tool is shaped like a typical Allen wrench, but the ends are actually Torx drives. You would probably be able to find an Allen wrench that would work, but I would be concerned about potential damage to the screw heads. Since Torx drives are now easily available, I would stick with that.

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Apr 22, 2019 12:41:11   #
JBGLADSTONE Loc: Oregon
 
Thanks everyone. Being old I guess allows for forgetting the simple fixes. So I tighten down the legs and that minimized movement. However. I found to eliminate total movement, was to hang my camera backpack bag(about 15lbs). This locked the tripod down.

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Apr 22, 2019 16:22:19   #
carl hervol Loc: jacksonville florida
 
This is really a ridicules set up get rid of the ball head

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Apr 22, 2019 21:40:24   #
Robert Bailey Loc: Canada
 
I switched to a ball head over 30 years ago and would never go back to dealing
with arms and knobs sticking out all over the place on a tripod head.

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Apr 23, 2019 09:41:06   #
BartHx
 
Due to an unfortunate incident many, many years ago with an inexpensive ball head (when I was just getting serious enough to start using a tripod) I will not use one. Yes, I know that designs have improved over the past 50+ years, but that's just me. On the other hand, if I were to use a ball head, I would make sure that it was in a position underneath the camera (I can't tell for sure what the orientation is in the photos since I am not familiar with the particular mount) where gravity could assist in holding the camera in position rather than next to the camera where you are relying entirely on friction in the head to hold the weight. In addition, with the particular tripod in question and using the side arm option, I would make sure the weight of the gear was where it could be solidly distributed on all three legs to avoid tipping. I do much of my shooting in the central Sierra Nevada where granite makes a very unforgiving surface on which to drop anything.

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