Ultra-Wide-Angle Zooms - the benefits, as opposed to the deficits ...
Apr 13, 2019 15:15:09 #
Chris T wrote:
User - this is quite a collection of shots. Not sure I get
why you posted them all together, though …
Don't think they're all taken with UWA-Zs - are they?
User - this is quite a collection of shots. Not sure I get
why you posted them all together, though …
Don't think they're all taken with UWA-Zs - are they?
Some needed some cropping ... par for the
course with ultrawide in the grab shot mode.
Just the nature of the beast.
Obviously, some proud practitioners of UWA
will compose and fuss and are loathe to crop
away any of their hard-won angle of view.
That would be an opposite approach to mine
but both approaches are dependent on the
UWA's field of view.
Some of mine are not grab shots, but I have
no qualms about cropping those, either :-)
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Apr 13, 2019 15:29:51 #
User ID wrote:
Some needed some cropping ... par for the br cour... (show quote)
Well, I'm down to just a 10-20, which I normally use at the extreme short end. Also had a 10-24, but, got rid of it … no loss!!! … Still have the same short end, and didn't really need 24mm anyway. But, you're right - I don't crop my "hard-won" extreme Wide Angles. When I want something longer, I switch lenses!
Apr 13, 2019 16:25:04 #
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OK. This is a 10mm shot, the 10-18
on Canon's reduced APSC format. It
is cropped quite a bit, but depends
on the UWA field of view, cuz a shift
lens for such a small format is kinda
like hen's teeth. So, you flip over to
the "portrait" format, crop away the
unwanted foreground and you get to
keep the sensor plane parallel to the
face of the building.
IOW the format is now about 15mm
x12mm and the image is what you'd
get if there was a 15x12 camera with
10mm shift lens ... a very pragmatic
application for UWA with no intent to
show extreme WA effects.
Chris T wrote:
Well, I'm down to just a 10-20, which I
normally use at the extreme short end.
..........
Well, I'm down to just a 10-20, which I
normally use at the extreme short end.
..........
OK. This is a 10mm shot, the 10-18
on Canon's reduced APSC format. It
is cropped quite a bit, but depends
on the UWA field of view, cuz a shift
lens for such a small format is kinda
like hen's teeth. So, you flip over to
the "portrait" format, crop away the
unwanted foreground and you get to
keep the sensor plane parallel to the
face of the building.
IOW the format is now about 15mm
x12mm and the image is what you'd
get if there was a 15x12 camera with
10mm shift lens ... a very pragmatic
application for UWA with no intent to
show extreme WA effects.
Apr 13, 2019 17:30:48 #
User ID wrote:
` br br br br OK. This is a 10mm sho... (show quote)
Lots of tricky feats involved in THAT one, User ... Kudos!!!
Apr 13, 2019 18:21:12 #
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Thaz what it takes to get a perfectly
ordinary looking rendering !
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Chris T wrote:
Lots of tricky feats involved in THAT one, User
... Kudos!!!
Lots of tricky feats involved in THAT one, User
... Kudos!!!
Thaz what it takes to get a perfectly
ordinary looking rendering !
.
Apr 13, 2019 18:45:49 #
User ID wrote:
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Thaz what it takes to get a perfectly
ordinary looking rendering !
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Thaz what it takes to get a perfectly
ordinary looking rendering !
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So I see, User …
You got anymore like that?
Apr 13, 2019 19:25:51 #
Chris T wrote:
So I see, User …
You got anymore like that?
You got anymore like that?
Not that I know where to find them .....
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Apr 13, 2019 19:42:51 #
User ID wrote:
Not that I know where to find them .....
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Oh, okay, User - I keep track of them all by using screensavers on each PC I use ...
One does the Nikon images. Another does the Canon images. The third does the Sony ones, and the fourth one - keeps track of the Pentax images. I find it easier to find something I want, or need - that much sooner.
Apr 13, 2019 19:47:24 #
Most difficult lens to learn correctly as well as the Macro lens. A lot of these can be bought for discounted prices as most folks have to have them, then learn they are too hard to use, then sell to purchase something else. If you learn to keep the lens level and Fill the frame they make a wonderful addition to your equipment.
I've post several dozen taken with the Tokina 11-16mm, just look through my back post. https://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-472051-1.html
As mentioned in your post about Macro lens, any wide angle will work, it's not the equipment, it's the application. Oh it's not sharp in the corners, everything looks small, everything looks funny......
I've post several dozen taken with the Tokina 11-16mm, just look through my back post. https://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-472051-1.html
As mentioned in your post about Macro lens, any wide angle will work, it's not the equipment, it's the application. Oh it's not sharp in the corners, everything looks small, everything looks funny......
Apr 13, 2019 20:26:18 #
martinfisherphoto wrote:
Most difficult lens to learn correctly as well as ... (show quote)
Yes, that's true, Martin ... but there's more distortion in the corners with some lenses, than with others.
Apr 14, 2019 13:33:23 #
Chris T wrote:
Yes, that's true, Martin ... but there's more distortion
in the corners with some lenses, than with others.
Yes, that's true, Martin ... but there's more distortion
in the corners with some lenses, than with others.
"Distortion" ?
Meh.
Apr 15, 2019 17:18:50 #
User ID wrote:
"Distortion" ?
Meh.
Meh.
Make that softness, User …
Can't see these pics you posted … was waiting for them to fill out - before responding - but, it doesn't look like they're going to … wonder why … ?
Apr 18, 2019 19:56:10 #
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Prolly temporary problem. Download was fast when I just
checked them.
Soft corner[s] ? I bet you mainly mean the tiny doggie ?
In the thumbnail he looks soft cuz he's partly blown out
by sunny backlight .... but if you zoom in on him, you
can see the stitches in his sweater. IOW, things are not
always what they first appear. Corner is plenty sharp :-)
Chris T wrote:
Make that softness, User …
Can't see these pics you posted … was waiting for them to fill out
- before responding - but, it doesn't look like they're going to …
wonder why … ?
Can't see these pics you posted … was waiting for them to fill out
- before responding - but, it doesn't look like they're going to …
wonder why … ?
Prolly temporary problem. Download was fast when I just
checked them.
Soft corner[s] ? I bet you mainly mean the tiny doggie ?
In the thumbnail he looks soft cuz he's partly blown out
by sunny backlight .... but if you zoom in on him, you
can see the stitches in his sweater. IOW, things are not
always what they first appear. Corner is plenty sharp :-)
Apr 18, 2019 23:32:46 #
Chris T wrote:
Yes, that's true, Martin ... but there's more distortion in the corners with some lenses, than with others.
I don't use ultra-wide much with man-made structures - mostly with nature photos. Four years ago when I switched from Canon to Pentax, the Sigma 10-20mm lens is the one lens I truly missed, and then I found that they made that one in K-mount also. I don't normally worry about the corners - I don't put anything important to me there in any case. A wider lens allows me to get closer, which creates a more intimate "there with me" image.
Apr 19, 2019 04:07:04 #
Pistnbroke
Loc: UK
I don't quite see why you would use an ultra wide ( 10mm) on a DX crop sensor particularly a Canon .
If you halve the focal length you need 4x the pixels to maintain the same sharpness. So DX for landscape is a bit of a bum idea. But of course if it makes you happy then its fine.
I personally use the 14mm Samyang on a D850 for wide shots at weddings particularly the first dance using disco lights I supply myself and of course church interiors/reception and scatter groups from the top of a ladder.
If you halve the focal length you need 4x the pixels to maintain the same sharpness. So DX for landscape is a bit of a bum idea. But of course if it makes you happy then its fine.
I personally use the 14mm Samyang on a D850 for wide shots at weddings particularly the first dance using disco lights I supply myself and of course church interiors/reception and scatter groups from the top of a ladder.
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