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Apr 10, 2019 17:09:58   #
Elaine2025 Loc: Seattle, Wa
 
Texcaster wrote:
" ... or how Hildabeast really didn't lose the election because 3 million more people voted for her." - Ma

Big Perp1 only won because of 80,000 votes in three northern rust bucket states. Those 3 million votes become little more significant in contrast.


First of all I don't care what your demented mind thinks. I do care that Trump will be President through 2024.

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Apr 10, 2019 17:10:32   #
mjmoore17 Loc: Philadelphia, PA area
 
dennis2146 wrote:
I know exactly what you are saying. Why would you call our President a moron. I hated what Obama did to America and think he was a pussy on so many accounts. But I never called him a moron. Do you deny that our economy now is better than when Obama or anybody else recently was the President? Do you deny that Trump has done things that other Presidents only talked of doing but never got around to actually doing it.

As I asked someone else today, what exactly do you have against Trump? He is not a dictator as some tell us, he is making America great again especially our economics. So what exactly are you moaning and whining about? Can you share with us?

Dennis
I know exactly what you are saying. Why would you... (show quote)


Yes, he has that great Healthcare system, it is great that Mexico is finally going to pay for that wall, and I can barely spend all the money that trickled down from giving huge tax reductions to rich people.

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Apr 10, 2019 17:12:36   #
Elaine2025 Loc: Seattle, Wa
 
mjmoore17 wrote:
Yes, he has that great Healthcare system, it is great that Mexico is finally going to pay for that wall, and I can barely spend all the money that trickled down from giving huge tax reductions to rich people.


Then take your ass and find a country you like.

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Apr 10, 2019 17:15:38   #
mjmoore17 Loc: Philadelphia, PA area
 
Elaine2025 wrote:
Then take your ass and find a country you like.


Where ever you are is where I want to be.

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Apr 10, 2019 17:25:41   #
EyeSawYou
 
shagbat wrote:
Burning xstains would!


Not at all surprised a Lefty atheist would suggest the burning of billions of humans would be good for the world, kinda Hitlerite of you.

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Apr 10, 2019 17:38:24   #
Texcaster Loc: Queensland
 
Elaine2025 wrote:
First of all I don't care what your demented mind thinks. I do care that Trump will be President through 2024.


Those 3 northern rust buckets are shaky and Big Perp1 has no plan to expand the base. It's a real worry for GOPers paid to worry about that stuff.

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Apr 10, 2019 17:51:02   #
Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.
 
Elaine2025 wrote:
Reparations? Who gets them? If you came from Haiti, never experienced slavery do you get a check because you are black. If you were a free black, do you get a check? How does anyone know if their ancestors experienced slavery?

What would handing a check to a black family accomplish? Racism will go away? They will now trust white cops? What shall we do for the Jewish people? Truth be told, we could have bombed the railroads that carried the Jewish people to the death camps. How much shall we pay them? The list can go on and on. Handing someone a check for something they never experienced is something only the democrat mind can come up with. It is that stupid.
Reparations? Who gets them? If you came from Haiti... (show quote)


You missed the part where I said that conservatives would never support handing out checks, it would be more along the lines of focusing on education and funding in blighted areas where education is all but absent in the schools, focuses on rebuilding opportunity in opportunity deserts... Stuff like that, paying people because society failed them is about as crazy an idea as the rhetoric spewing forth from AOC.

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Apr 11, 2019 09:27:32   #
Elaine2025 Loc: Seattle, Wa
 
mjmoore17 wrote:
Where ever you are is where I want to be.


Traitor boy, you are vile and obnoxious. I wouldn't even let you be the door mat, that would be too good for you.

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Apr 11, 2019 09:29:24   #
Elaine2025 Loc: Seattle, Wa
 
Blurryeyed wrote:
You missed the part where I said that conservatives would never support handing out checks, it would be more along the lines of focusing on education and funding in blighted areas where education is all but absent in the schools, focuses on rebuilding opportunity in opportunity deserts... Stuff like that, paying people because society failed them is about as crazy an idea as the rhetoric spewing forth from AOC.


I know Blurry, my point was, if you were stupid enough to go for something like that, how the hell would you ever figure out who got money, why, how many races, etc.

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Apr 11, 2019 09:34:47   #
Frank T Loc: New York, NY
 
letmedance wrote:
How they got there is irrevalent, that they stopped their voyage in Haiti means the U.S. owes them no appoligies.


It may or may not be irrelevant depending on whether or not they were ever slaves in the United States. However, no one is talking about reparations to anyone who had ancestors as slaves in other countries.
In fact, I don't even know whether I support it or not at this point because I don't know all the facts, and no one has come up with a proposal.
I know, waiting for the facts isn't popular with the right wing but I suggest you give it a try.

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Apr 11, 2019 09:36:33   #
Frank T Loc: New York, NY
 
Elaine2025 wrote:
little Frankie, Haiti had original inhabitants that were black, not of African descent. Slavery was abolished there in 1834, long before the civil war. The US did NOT enslave those people. Some of them came to the US, what do we do about them? Reparations for what? The US did not cause their slavery.

The topic was reparations, remember? You are such a dolt.


Lainey,
You really try my patients when you skip your meds.

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Apr 11, 2019 09:48:38   #
shagbat Loc: London
 
EyeSawYou wrote:
Not at all surprised a Lefty atheist would suggest the burning of billions of humans would be good for the world, kinda Hitlerite of you.


A Leftie hitlerite, like it R.

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Apr 11, 2019 11:31:14   #
Harry0 Loc: Gardena, Cal
 
Elaine2025 wrote:
The topic was reparations, remember? You are such a dolt.


Yeah, almost. The topic was about burning churches. And racism.
*I* don't owe reparations. Reparation is restitution for something you did and/or allowed to happen.
If anybody- including Trumplestiltskin- actually gave a dam there'd be dozens of FBI guys down there diligently and ferociously finding those responsible, and locking them up for a multitude of crimes, including terrorism. This is an event akin to the Boston Marathon bombing.
Yeah. Maybe not. These are poor black folk, in poor areas. Carry on.

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Apr 11, 2019 11:45:12   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
Blurryeyed wrote:
Trump could possibly make the case but if he simply came out with an E/O there would be some ruckus in the fly-over. A careful case has to be made for reparations, simply telling people that they are going to pay for the sins of their great-great-great grandfathers to people who have never experienced a day of slavery would cause a shit storm, if a careful case is made explaining societal failings in terms of race that go all the way back to slavery, well then people may listen.. but I don't think that conservatives would ever support handing out checks to individuals or families, fixing societal deficiencies is something that may gain support.
Trump could possibly make the case but if he simpl... (show quote)


Americans have been trying to fix the societal deficiencies toward blacks since the day after the Civil War ended. Since the 1960's we have spent Trillions of dollars trying to get the black people educated, working, playing Midnight basketball (in the Clinton years) and on and on. America has tried Affirmative Action as well. Years ago in a conversation with a black friend he surprised me by saying the black man's worst enemy is himself. Many have risen to greatness by getting an education, working hard and getting ahead. In the past 50 years black people, as a group, have excelled in many fields of endeavor. While some still complain they are being held down by whitey we have had a black President, black Secretary of State, more blacks in Congress than ever before and so on. Many of our business leaders, attorneys, doctors and so on are black. But still the Liberals push their narrative that we, meaning white people, have to do more to help the black man lift himself up in society. To think that the black man might consider doing some of his own lifting is thought to be a racist thought. Perish the thought that someone should work to lift themself up.

Perhaps reparations should be paid to every white person in America because it was mostly whites who fought and gave their lives to end slavery. Why don't I ever hear that mentioned? Thousands of men died to free the black man. Why don't we ever celebrate those men?

Yes, I realize to some I am a racist just because I voice these concerns. So be it.

Dennis

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Apr 11, 2019 12:12:52   #
mjmoore17 Loc: Philadelphia, PA area
 
dennis2146 wrote:
Americans have been trying to fix the societal deficiencies toward blacks since the day after the Civil War ended. Since the 1960's we have spent Trillions of dollars trying to get the black people educated, working, playing Midnight basketball (in the Clinton years) and on and on. America has tried Affirmative Action as well. Years ago in a conversation with a black friend he surprised me by saying the black man's worst enemy is himself. Many have risen to greatness by getting an education, working hard and getting ahead. In the past 50 years black people, as a group, have excelled in many fields of endeavor. While some still complain they are being held down by whitey we have had a black President, black Secretary of State, more blacks in Congress than ever before and so on. Many of our business leaders, attorneys, doctors and so on are black. But still the Liberals push their narrative that we, meaning white people, have to do more to help the black man lift himself up in society. To think that the black man might consider doing some of his own lifting is thought to be a racist thought. Perish the thought that someone should work to lift themself up.

Perhaps reparations should be paid to every white person in America because it was mostly whites who fought and gave their lives to end slavery. Why don't I ever hear that mentioned? Thousands of men died to free the black man. Why don't we ever celebrate those men?

Yes, I realize to some I am a racist just because I voice these concerns. So be it.

Dennis
Americans have been trying to fix the societal def... (show quote)


Maybe you do not celebrate Veterans Days.

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